HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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stannis is about what he thinks is right rather than the law per se. if the two diverge he will go with the former. his spirit word is "should". the spiritual dimension of should is fate and all the mystical bullshit has dragged him too far in that direction so that should be king > shouldn't burn your kid alive.

Maybe the Dorne stuff was like the Braavos stuff in Season 4... we get a little taste of what the place is like, and perhaps later Dorne will become important to the core story. It may be the ideal place for a last stand against the walkers if it comes to that.

well said xp

tbf it is warmer there even in winter i'd guess, that could maybe fuck w/ the walkers

i don't think it's spoilery to say that the introduction of dorne and crew is not for nothing in the grand scheme but the way the show went about it was a bit more rub even than the way the books did. still i don't mind the dorne stuff, i like the flavour of it. i guess reading the books you are sort of trained to roll with weak tangents.

Probalby should have been more scorpions to make it mor realistic

i liked dorne more when i thought that the people there would be similar in temperament to oberyn, but everyone else there seems to be permacranky.

too italian not enough spanish

I assume the importance of the Dorne stuff will be the symbolic "enemies can get along if they overcome need for revenge" thing

plus if there's a sincere alliance with Dorne, maybe the Lannisters will be able to climb out of their ditch

also they needed jamie out of the house so cersei cld hit rock bottom

I'm assuming the Dorne stuff will get more important at some point (next season I guess). Oberyn's brother seems like he could be an interesting character if they give him something to do (he seems like a smart and rational politician, much like Tywin).

he seems like a person who might care about other ppl so i assume hell be assassinated and replaced by a sociopath

lol

the plot twists on this show are good enough to send viewers into a tizzy every few episodes - ppl don't write thousands of think pieces about writing/television that isn't doing its job correctly

It used to, I think it's been resting on its laurels this entire season.

Really, how?

q: didn't dany only marry hizdahr zo loraq to solidify her rule bc he was seen as an emblematic figure in the landowner former slaveowner community? so was he stabbed bc his marriage to the abolitionist was seen as a betrayal? were we supposed to wonder if he was leading the harpys but this indicates he wasn't?

It's hard to say what the motivations of the various characters in that scene are given that Hizdahr doesn't die in that scene in the book (and it doesn't play out the same way in general).

x-post: Yeah, that weird plot twist really sends you into a tizzy, with so many unanswered questions to mull over at length, perhaps in writing. I guess the writing really did it's job correctly on that one!

your post is written in a snarky tone but i don't understand what the snark is. i haven't argued that him dying in that scene was a product of bad writing.

ppl who write their own versions of television shows are not critics fyi, they are fan-fic writers

I'm just kidding. Killing off Loraq seems weird and not really thought through, like a lot of changes they've made.

Speculating about better versions of things you dislike is something critics does all the time, btw. Ebert used to do it over and over.

this is the best season bc no bran

feel like occasionally they shd cut to him so we know he is still inside a tree

well...this is not really a spoiler as such, but if you go through every episode of this season, you will see at some point there is a tree with eyeholes shuffling around in the background.

that bran always up to something!

bran isn't in this season because he has puberty squeaky voice and he just doesn't want to see anyone, period, not even his family, because what's the point anyway and how is it possible that he feels everything at once, but also nothing?!!

bran needs a copy of the downward spiral stat

leaked photo of bran in season 6:

http://i.imgur.com/qNuqmbh.jpg

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/7/79/Bran_stark_dreams_by_teiiku.jpg/450px-Bran_stark_dreams_by_teiiku.jpg

Is that Arya?

I was into Dorne via Oberyn, and then when I saw Doran was Alexander Siddig aka Dr Bashir from Deep Space Nine, I was momentarily oh hell yes

but nope. zzzzz. Dorne more like Bored.

Is that Arya?

It's the illustration on Bran's wiki page

it's my backpiece

also if I were the 20 dudes in the night i probably would have just burned stannis's tent

Just a quick question going back to this scene with Stannis' camp getting attacked - did we actually see guys burning their camp? I sort of thought that was maybe triggered by Melisandre to kickstart the kid-burning. I can't remember how the scene played out visually - I just remember a wide-shot with a bunch of tents bursting into flames seemingly at the same time; it seemed vaguely supernatural. Did I just miss a shot of the attackers?

that's what I was wondering too

I don't think we saw anyone setting fires, but the previouslys reminded us about the Ramsey 20 so it was to be inferred it was them

I thought the fires definitely felt supernatural; I certainly felt like it was Melisandre's fault.

ok, then they needed a scene where Ramsey and his 20 men showed up and saw all these tents burning and went wow someone else got here first lol let's go home!

can't believe we're still asking "what if sawyer was the horse" type shit after all these years

LOST really fucked with ppl, man (myself included)

in terms of approaching ambiguities and things not made clear, they always have to mean something

Of course it was Ramsey, if Melisandre could just magically set things on fire don't you think she wouldn't just, like, melt the heavy snow or rain fire down on Winterfell or someting?

exactly

I guess it's in character for Ramsey to do a crappy half-job.

I'm having great difficulty keeping up with who is who and who did what this season, more than previously. I'm blaming the baby.

If it weren't for the Renly thing my suspicion would be that Melisandre = a fraud. It would at least be a good plot twist if it emerged that Stannis killed his own daughter for no reason.

This show sure loves killing kids

it's giving people what they want

I guess it's in character for Ramsey to do a crappy half-job

His plan worked perfectly - they only wanted to send an intimidating warning and fuck with Stannis a bit more without the trouble of a full on military manouevre as discouraged by Roose.