Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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I wouldn't have thought there were enough people who "want to be into vinyl" without doing any of the things people into vinyl do to form a business model around. Good for the scammers, then.

My brother worked at Guitar Center for a long time, and he said there was a large portion of their clientele that seemed to want to have an electric guitar as a lifestyle accessory rather than any love of making music, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

nickn, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

a large portion of their clientele that seemed to want to have an electric guitar as a lifestyle accessory

^^^ these guys keep guitar stores in business (as opposed to, say, drum stores). It's really weird the number of people I know who own guitar(s) and never, ever play them.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

it's the thought that counts.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

May also be a classic case of being unable to admit to yourself that you're not really going to pursue/fulfill that hobby, like the kid who guiltily keeps the abandoned ant farm and chemistry set under the bed.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Cory, what was in the "Between the Sheets" section? What was that vibe?

― how's life, Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:48 AM (4 hours ago)

it would be awesome if it was every record itt: samples/reworks the end part of "between the sheets"

gr8080, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

you open that record up and it's instantly a five dollar record!! at best.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

PLEASE NOTE: THIS ITEM COMES FROM THE INCREDIBLE, SINGLE-OWNER COLLECTION WE ACQUIRED A WHILE AGO, IN WHICH ITEMS ORIGINALLY BOUGHT BY THE OWNER FROM THE MID-'60s to THE MID-'70s WERE KEPT STILL SEALED IN A NEAR-LABORATORY, TIME-CAPSULE CONDITIONS AND IN PRACTICALLY CLIMATE- AND HUMIDITY- CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT. CONDITIONS OF SOME OF THESE ITEMS RANGE FROM IMPECCABLE TO TRULY UNBELIEVABLE.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

"what kind of condition is it in?" "well, it's almost unbelievable. definitely impeccable though..."

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

would pec

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

meanwhile, he just sold a sealed copy of ragamuffin's fool by jackson heights for less than 20 bucks. that's a steal. i need that too...

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Whoa that dudes got a grip of red hot stampers

Cory Sklar, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

would pec

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://spcasc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Woodpecker.jpg

Evan, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

how do sealed young rascals records go for 200 bucks (he sold more than one at that price!) and a white label promo of loaded goes for less than a hundred. it's a strange world we live in...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VELVET-UNDERGOUND-LOADED-ULTRA-RARE-ORIGINAL-71-COTILLION-WHITE-LABEL-PROMO-LP-/141661476323?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20fbae95e3

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Because it wasn't kept in a "near-laboratory"

Evan, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

who even listens to the Young Rascals

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Old Rascals, for one.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

i actually listened to Groovin' today. i have the nicest copy. near mint! first pressing! like new! i was gonna put ten bucks on it but i thought that might be pushing things...

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

some laboratories have acid in them

mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

or diseased monkeys!

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

diseased monkeys can be trusted not to open sealed copies of Young Rascals records.

Evan, Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

One of those later Rascals records has Alice Coltrane and other hip people on it. Not that one, though.

Jim Gillette's unused octave (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 June 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

just heard a VINYL ME, PLEASE ad on Pandora. "music discovery for humans, by humans."
VINYL ME, PLEASE is maybe the worst name for anything ever.

tylerw, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

but is MOVIE ME, PLEASE worse than Qwikster?

mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

is MOZZARELLA STICKS ME, PLEASE worse than Applebee's?

mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

kill me, please

tylerw, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

but is that worse than ♥☮☯♫ PC MUSIC ♫☯☮♥ ☺☺☺ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°✌?

mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

a guy who used to run a little record store in chicago closed his shop a few months ago. a few weeks ago he posted this to his store's old FB page:

To all the hipsters that get a hard-on when you find a shit record (or no record inside, or wrong LP) at a yard sale, or thrift store for $1.00, thanks for the support, Hope ALL your records are, or will be warped !

https://www.facebook.com/wilbillys

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link

how do sealed young rascals records go for 200 bucks (he sold more than one at that price!) and a white label promo of loaded goes for less than a hundred

My theory is that the typo in the listing title meant that it didn't show up in a lot of searches, so fewer people saw it and bid on it than would otherwise have done.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 07:10 (eight years ago) link

a guy who used to run a little record store in chicago closed his shop a few months ago. a few weeks ago he posted this to his store's old FB page:

was this the one in roscoe village?

gr8080, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

"To all the hipsters that get a hard-on when you find a shit record (or no record inside, or wrong LP) at a yard sale, or thrift store for $1.00, thanks for the support, Hope ALL your records are, or will be warped !"

He thinks $1 records found at yard sales and thrift shops helped kill his business?

Evan, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

was this the one in roscoe village?

― gr8080, Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:16 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, i think it went under a few names.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

but NOT hard boiled; the one after that.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

a large portion of their clientele that seemed to want to have an electric guitar as a lifestyle accessory

^^^ these guys keep guitar stores in business (as opposed to, say, drum stores). It's really weird the number of people I know who own guitar(s) and never, ever play them.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:27 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tone attorneys are basically fender and gibson's main audiences now, $5000 "relic'd" Strats made to look beat up with a belt sander in the factory, made in the USA (because no other countries can make good instruments) and at just MAYBE a better instrument to a fuckin $75 Craigslist Squier that someone dumped $200 in better hardware into

https://reverb.com/item/391129-2014-fender-custom-shop-54-stratocaster-relic-cimarron-red?_aid=pla&pla=1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqqmsBRDGy_3h_eS80jYSJACS95Cvl1DRecFDEt9yhwIovuQQuEo2JoDyuQRxnTg-HLMGjhoC16Xw_wcB

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link

tone attorneys!

goole, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

sour grapes record store guy reminds me of this. they called us and asked if we wanted to be a part of this article and after i saw it i was sooooooo glad that i didn't have anything to do with it. not a good look, as the kids like to say:

http://www.bdcwire.com/how-to-survive-record-store-day-without-looking-like-a-poser/

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

blah...

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

the author's last name

here i am in the land of large breakfasts (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

ahahaha

sleeve, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

that whole article is really snobby and pointless boundary-drawing, proud of scott for not participating

on the other hand, it's nice to know that weirdo records is still in business

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

weirdo is closing actually...

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

or has closed actually.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

vynl update: they are definitely "pivoting" the latest batch has been all sealed band of horses, black keys and ben harper records.

Cory Sklar, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

the three B's

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

weirdo is closing actually...

― scott seward, Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:15 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or has closed actually.

― scott seward, Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:19 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:(

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wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

fuck the world

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

“When you attempt to engage them in basic conversation about the item they are buying and even the most basic literal reference to said record goes over their head; they’ll typically nod with a blank stare or repeat what you say enthusiastically like a parrot but have no idea what you’re talking about,” says UGHH owner Aaron Wetjen-Barry. “Trying to sound cool because they read about it somewhere easy like Pitchfork.”

UGHH indeed. OK, I'm a weirdo but fuck you, bcz when strangers talk to me my brain blows a fuse; you could say something about my favourite most nerded-out-on band and I would still nod and go "yeah... yeah" and then run away and not be, like, throwing out the hot record nerd banter "oh I prefer the 4-track demos the bassist's previous band did before they were signed and split up after one backwards-rotating 10" EP that was only ever reviewed in that one obscure paper 'zine, but I'll buy this anyway because it's on 200g vinyl" or w/e

Look, there are hundreds of records participating in Record Store Day this year, and there’s not a single sentient human being who’s going to know about all of them. Don’t be afraid of asking a music-savvy friend or a record store owner about a group or album in particular – just be damn sure you’re listening to the answer.

hey I (used to) love buying records I don't know anything about but RSD is a very poor day to do this because everything is way overpriced, but have fun buying a £35 LP by a band you've never heard of. also there is a queue a mile long and nobody wants to hold your hand and answer questions

plus I have rarely received a more helpful answer to "do you know anything about this record I've never heard of with a weird title in the £1 bin" than "I dunno man, it had a weird title and none of us had heard of it so we put it in the £1 bin"

cosigning the "congrats on not being mentioned in that article"

Abraham raves doubtlessly (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, well played, Scott.

doug watson, Thursday, 25 June 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

cory tell me a funny story about this ddude

chaki wite (sanskrit), Thursday, 25 June 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

looks like VNYL has some competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQNcKlWasA

Cory Sklar, Thursday, 25 June 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link


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