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I don't think there's any way I could do this! will have to try later.

it's funny but the idea of this is essentially what my advisor tried to get me to do on the "dissertation" section of my cover letters. he said "try not to use any of the specialized words you use in the dissertation."

ryan, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

for research like that, the hardest part may be that even if you can give a good basic paraphrase of a more sophisticated idea, you can't even stipulate its name once you explain it, so you have to be able to repeatedly keep things in basic terms

j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

yeah and it certainly shows how big fancy words are developed in many cases to make ease of communication greater between academics. (if certainly not for outsiders)

ryan, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

if it had "math" this'd be easy for me

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

I hate philosophical jargon

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

next time someone uses math in a conversation with me: "spare me the jargon!"

ryan, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

nah just the word "math"

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

nah just the word "math"

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

you mean "stuff with numbers and such."

ryan, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

numbers are so passé

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

anyway just pick a word in the 1000 yr not gonna use and say "let 'blah' be ..." And then you can use jargon

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

haha but there's no jargon for the jargon of 'let … be…'

j., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

this discussion between david m. berry and alexander galloway struck me as particularly "of the moment." I hope this link works:
http://cultureandcommunication.org/galloway/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Galloway-and-Berry-TCS-Interview-2015.pdf

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

crossing my fingers on the formatting here:

ARG: We must forget Deleuze. It’s troubling to admit, given how influential Deleuze has been on my own thinking. But it’s imperative today that we forget Deleuzianism in all its many guises. First, we must forget the Google Deleuzians, those who see the world as a vital assemblage, proffering untold bounties of knowledge – and riches. From clouds, to humans, to molluscs, to molecules, the world is nothing but systems. Lines of flight slice through assemblages, creating Berry and Galloway 7 Downloaded from tcs.sagepub.com at Bobst Library, New York University on June 18, 2015 new living landscapes. Systems are open, dynamic, and robust. Networks produce value. These are some of the many mantras of the Google Deleuzians. We must also forget the Carl Sagan Deleuzians. Remember Carl Sagan and his awestruck odes to the ‘billions and billions of stars’? Carl Sagan Deleuzians are those who think that ontology is about producing a sense of sublime grandeur in the mind of the thinker. These kinds of Deleuzians assume that ‘nature’ and ‘human nature’ coincide, and that the world is there ‘for us’ or, more specifically, to ‘impress’ us. For the Carl Sagan Deleuzians ontology means awesome-ology. Finally, we must forget the Wet Diaper Deleuzians, or those who, in an endless restaging of the 1960s, think that being political means liberating one’s desires. (Let’s not forget that Facebook’s entire business plan is based on the liberation of desire.) For the Wet Diaper Deleuzians, everything is a desiring machine driven by an endless reserve of polymorphous perversity. They giggle and cry, suckle and shit, fall down and get back up. The world is a giant sandbox, filled with toys. Everyone they meet is a potential Father or Master that might threaten their desire, someone to be dethroned, debased, even killed. Each act becomes a doll house revolution – off with their heads!

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

lol

Lines of flight slice through assemblages, creating Berry and Galloway 7 Downloaded from tcs.sagepub.com at Bobst Library, New York University on June 18, 2015 new living landscapes

j., Monday, 22 June 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

ha! what's sad is that im pretty sure i read through that and didnt even notice.

in any case that's at the bottom of page 7.

im pretty bitter at the moment but if all of that interview doesn't strike me as a whole lot of nothing.

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

some dudes should tape record themselves

j., Monday, 22 June 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

it reminds me of that portlandia skit: "networks are ovah!"

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGqN3AKOsA

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

lol at the top comment on that video.

ryan, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

not-so-secret authoritarians have been trying the same line of attack on Deleuze since the 60s tbh

confessions of hellno (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 June 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

google deleuzian sounds pretty cool

flopson, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

degoogian

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 22 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

degoogzian even

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 22 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

degloogzian

j., Monday, 22 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Deleuze was a funnier metaphysics right

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link

what a mistake to have ever said THE id

j., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:18 (eight years ago) link

Id isn't a necessarily a mistake?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link

j. did you ever finish the critique of cynical reason? i read a bit about the whole "bubbles/spheres" project today and it sounds quite interesting.

ryan, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:23 (eight years ago) link

Ugh the Critique of Pure Reason?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

nah!

ryan, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

still goin, amid other reading - a bit over halfway through, will finish (unless end part about german political history is boring)

j., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:28 (eight years ago) link

Shut up about your philosophy. Shut up emirate?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

http://againstprofphil.org/

was stoked to see this until i realized that Z is r0b3rt h4nna : /

j., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

nice idea, but

philosophical work that is aggressively cosmopolitan and non-chauvinist, critically challenging and edgy, daringly generalist and original, fully humanly meaningful, slightly weird, and deemed “unpublishable” in mainstream venues.
all sounds pretty boilerplate, though I'm not up on current philosophy publishing trends.

ryan, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

that quote = aggressively interested in one's own boners imo

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I'm a big fan of weird philosophy, much less so self-consciously weird philosophy. I like it when the weirdos think they are talking common sense.

ryan, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

"edgy essays"

drash, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

daringly boner

i don't know much abt dude's work, i only really took any look at all once he started disseminating screeds in teh wake of the c0l0r4d0 mess, but it seemed excessively mainline and boring

which does make the backstory of his professional career that comes out in the site seem hella depressing - a lifetime of furious 'inner migration'

also makes the key note of criticism of professionalization as such seem more poignant somehow - like, he evidently wasn't out there deleuzein it up, just wanted to defend the rationality of boners etc

j., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

looks like positivism trying to pretend it isn't and failing

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

that is a pretty dumb article

it quotes someone as saying this: "It is bizarre indeed that the rest of the humanities (and in most philosophy departments around the world besides those in Britain and the US) seems to feel that the last place for philosophy is philosophy departments."

firstly, does that parse? is it saying that people in non-Anglo philo departments think the last place for philosophy is philosophy departments? then what do people in non-Anglo philosophy departments think of themselves? I think this sentence is garbled

also, as someone who will soon begin a new life in a non-Anglo philo department (with one of the people mentioned later in the essay as a new colleague), it seems like the quoted person at least doesn't understand non-Anglo philosophy departments very well. do Germans today care a lot about this alleged clash? I don't really know. but in cheeseland the preoccupation with this seems quite peculiar.

also I wish people who write essays about how philosophy should be done, would just do philosophy that way.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 25 June 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

anyone know anything about this new marvelous clouds book?

ryan, Saturday, 11 July 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link

so my book finally has an Amazon page with a cover, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0231171005/

the price is inexcusable and I'm not sure it will come down (they probably aren't printing a ton of copies if you know what I mean). but, uh, I have a pdf of the uncorrected proof, just saying.

I'm proud of some aspects, less so of others. it's been so long I feel almost objective about it!

they sorta mucked up the cover imo but the very cool underlying drawing is by none other than peirce himself. not sure why it couldn't have stood alone as the cover but i didn't get to control that.

ryan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

wow that's awesome!
congrats ryan :)
i plan to read it

drash, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link

your funeral

jk!

and thanks!

ryan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

That looks like an extremely cool book. Congrats!

jmm, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

yall are respectable and shit

j., Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

pssshhh

back on topic: has anyone read Danielle Macbeth's "Realizing Reason"--sounds like a big ambitious thing.

ryan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

missed it but she is real good so... stole that, check

j., Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link


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