New Order - Music Complete

this is the worst album name ever

are you sure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Enemy_discography#Albums

Not a ref to "Music : Response" ?

why is new guy up front in that picture

new songs were ok live

don't expect this to be any better or worse than sirens call or get ready, both of which were eh. fine, they're still great live, even with no hook, if this gets them on the road again I'm happy.

"I really haven't cared about New Order since Technique. I'm pretty sure I've heard the last three albums, but I couldn't tell you what a single song from any of them sounds like."

Even Regret? If nothing else that justifies their not splitting for good after technique; it's probably the best song NO ever did.

I'm tempted to make a "latter-period New Order" playlist to try to change some minds but IIRC most of Republic isn't available on US Spotify so I'd have to leave out "Ruined in a Day"

that's a weird album to leave off. I think there is one great solid album to be culled from those three records.

Republic suffers from an embalmed production that was out of fashion in 1993; it sounds like a Bernard Sumner solo album on which the band was allowed to participate. But the Sumner of 1993 was still writing songs as good as "Regret," "Special," "Times Change," "Ruined in a Day," and "Everyone Everywhere" (the secret highlight, like "Some Distant Memory" on the Electronic album).

if New Order had released "World (The Price of Love)" in 1990 it would've been an amazing barnburner of a single; on this album it's a throwback to other times. I still love it.

total aside: I didn't realize that "World In Motion" was their only UK #1

some distant memory is the best song ever

It is.

Crystal was such a great comeback and the way it all LOOKED was incredible!

http://img-cdn.jg.jugem.jp/966/819789/20130209_353003.jpg

came across this last week. saw the same show a few months later at Ally Pally on NY Eve. SUCH a great show, sounds freaking amazing here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjkU9bTqlU

^^^ I've got that DVD; it's indeed amazing. The '81 Taras Shevchenko show also included!

oh I was at that Reading gig

Republic suffers from an embalmed production that was out of fashion in 1993; it sounds like a Bernard Sumner solo album on which the band was allowed to participate.

You could say that about almost everything post-Republic though, but when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in.

pretty much hated Republic and almost everything since.

aside from Crystal the only songs i'd save from a fire with Sumner's voice on since the first Electronic album are Out Of Control by the Chems and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z15DIchJw7Y

not enough krafty love itt

The mix on WFTSC sounds fine to me -- they got it right.

Can someone explain to me why the title track of Waiting For the Sirens' Call nearly kills me? If it catches me unawares I can even tear up at times. It doesn't have any particular association but something about it really gets to me. Maybe it feels like the end of New Order.

WFTSC is great, Get Ready is 50% great and Republic is a sweet balearic classic (hated it at the time but all the songs bar Liar and Chemical have aged surprisingly well). I think I'd take any of these over Low-Life, no challop

"Low Life" was such a strange one for me..

It kicks off with OMG an actual song! that it's difficult to remember the rest.

Music Complete is pretty much on the same level as History of Modern and English Electric. Same with the artwork which is extremely similar to those albums.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I beg to differ, Music Complete is a terrible title. At least those OMD album titles (as with a lot of OMD album titles) were chosen for conceptual reasons.

The artwork reminds me far more of True Colours by Split Enz than any OMD artwork.

Music Complete sounds like it could be the title of a K-Tel compilation or something...

"K-Tel presents... Music Complete! 20 sublime chart hits on ONE album!"

the artwork for True Colours is great though. it would be neat if the sleeve for Music Complete came in multiple colours as well

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/Tam1976/Other%20stuff/IMG_0186.jpg

idk, to me there's something elegantly New Order-ish about the title Music Complete. With that, the cover artwork, and the snippet of music in the trailer, I'm quietly optimistic about the new album.

'music complete' is a great title and totally in line with new order's aesthetic fuiud

Remember everything from the Republic era said 'A New Order Product', which at the time I thought was terrible but I get the concept of it now.

ppl complaining about the cover art but then like

http://i.imgur.com/snWAsiV.jpg

(this is extremely good cover art btw)

my fave

Good thread: let's discuss New Order's 'Republic'

Can someone explain to me why the title track of Waiting For the Sirens' Call nearly kills me? If it catches me unawares I can even tear up at times. It doesn't have any particular association but something about it really gets to me. Maybe it feels like the end of New Order.

― MatthewK,

This is the only song since Regret that would make my New Order top ten. It's a perfect song. The ending kills me every single time.

How many times must I lose my way, hey
How many words do I have to say, hey
What can I do just to make you see
That you're so good for a man like
A man like me

Turn is beautiful as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmmDElWGbYg

Yeah, Turn is my second favourite on that album. It was supposed to come out after the title track but got cancelled for some reason. It's even on their Singles collection from 2005. It should have been released instead of Jetstream which might just be their worst single.

All time classic status: Achieved

Primitive Notion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWrWRm2DFtY

Crystal, Someone Like You, Run Wild and Vicious Streak are my favourites on Get Ready.

Prefer the Steve Osborne mix of Run Wild but agree with the rest of those.

I'm gonna live till I die
I'm gonna live to get high

Probably inspired by hanging out with Bobby Gillespie too much.

Yay, it's New Order's El Pintor!!!!

Hopefully it's a lot better than that.

In my head, Hooky & Carlos are secretly working on a set of bass duets called Screw You Guys I'm Going Home.

(Thank you, thread for making me dig out Republic and Get Ready. I have no time for people who don't acknowledge that the bassline on Regret is like the platonic ideal of a New Order bassline.)

Yay, it's New Order's El Pintor!!!!

― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Red Owner?

Hooky and Carlos are secretly working on giving groupies venereal diseases.

"Turn" is definitely MOR New Order but that's probably where I'm at these days (though all the Bad Lieutenant songs kinda sounded like Turn but never as good)

Yes, yes, Our Herpes To Admire, Seven and the Raged Tiger, Some Distant Memory, now we never have to have this conversation again, Alfred.

Republic is perfection right until Times Change. Has there ever been a decent song that Barney raps on? I'm thinking there's probably an Electronic song that proves me wrong

The songs are good, Sumner's raps are...tolerable. I think it almost works on "Feel Every Beat."

'Idiot Country'

"Idiot Country" is also weird in that for the chorus Sumner doubletracks himself singing at the top of his register.

< when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in. >

Doves popped into my head when reading this.

I saw them live at Bilbao BBK last week, it was a really great set if only an hour long. They were doing interesting things with the older material, they seemed to have made it sound a lot more chunky than the recorded versions, and it was interesting that they kept to the more electronic side of their back-catalogue. The newer material was more faithfully rendered.

I'd like to know why they never play anything from Technique, and haven't since reuniting in 2001 (afaik?).

That's utterly baffling, I would have thought songs like Run and Love Less would be fixtures in a live set. I see they dragged out Round & Round once in 2012, noted as "first time since 1993". Maybe they hate that period of the band's history, or the lyrics are too related to Barney's divorce ... ?
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/new-order/2012/vector-arena-auckland-new-zealand-3def10b.html

Same for Republic, including Regret (at least on this tour)

Yeah, but no one considers Republic the best NO album, or even one of the best, save for Regret. Makes sense it would be ignored; I mean, nothing from Movement, either. But Technique is all killer, no filler.

They played "Regret" when I saw'em in March.

no one considers Republic the best NO album, or even one of the best,

At some time every album b/w 1982 and 1993, including Electronic, has been my favorite NO album.

On the 2013 tour they were playing Regret and World from Republic, which is nice. But yeah... nothing from Technique at all. I don't mind, I like Republic better anyway.

I would beg them to play a concert that was nothing but Movement and Technique

I saw Hooky doing the whole of Movement with The Light about 3 years ago, that was good in a slightly karaoke kind of way, and his voice was suffering by the end of the set

Saw them in Manchester Saturday and beforehand I was fantasising about a set of just Technique with an encore of Tutti Frutti. But yeah, no Technique at all. Your Silent Face was unexpected and good. Encore was just Decades and Love Will Tear Us Apart which was a bit of a buzz killer tbh. On a positive note it was some buzz they'd built up by that point to kill.

Would love to hear some first album Electronic songs mixed into a live show. It's the great lost New Order record under a different name. Anyone who needs a refresher course on who drives the creative of this band really need to go back and listen to the debut albums of Electronic and Revenge. God damn the Revenge stuff was embarrassing.

Johnny Marr played some Electronic on tour.

Bernard played Tighten Up on the Bad Luetinent tour.