New Order - Music Complete

my fave

Good thread: let's discuss New Order's 'Republic'

Can someone explain to me why the title track of Waiting For the Sirens' Call nearly kills me? If it catches me unawares I can even tear up at times. It doesn't have any particular association but something about it really gets to me. Maybe it feels like the end of New Order.

― MatthewK,

This is the only song since Regret that would make my New Order top ten. It's a perfect song. The ending kills me every single time.

How many times must I lose my way, hey
How many words do I have to say, hey
What can I do just to make you see
That you're so good for a man like
A man like me

Turn is beautiful as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmmDElWGbYg

Yeah, Turn is my second favourite on that album. It was supposed to come out after the title track but got cancelled for some reason. It's even on their Singles collection from 2005. It should have been released instead of Jetstream which might just be their worst single.

All time classic status: Achieved

Primitive Notion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWrWRm2DFtY

Crystal, Someone Like You, Run Wild and Vicious Streak are my favourites on Get Ready.

Prefer the Steve Osborne mix of Run Wild but agree with the rest of those.

I'm gonna live till I die
I'm gonna live to get high

Probably inspired by hanging out with Bobby Gillespie too much.

Yay, it's New Order's El Pintor!!!!

Hopefully it's a lot better than that.

In my head, Hooky & Carlos are secretly working on a set of bass duets called Screw You Guys I'm Going Home.

(Thank you, thread for making me dig out Republic and Get Ready. I have no time for people who don't acknowledge that the bassline on Regret is like the platonic ideal of a New Order bassline.)

Yay, it's New Order's El Pintor!!!!

― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Red Owner?

Hooky and Carlos are secretly working on giving groupies venereal diseases.

"Turn" is definitely MOR New Order but that's probably where I'm at these days (though all the Bad Lieutenant songs kinda sounded like Turn but never as good)

Yes, yes, Our Herpes To Admire, Seven and the Raged Tiger, Some Distant Memory, now we never have to have this conversation again, Alfred.

Republic is perfection right until Times Change. Has there ever been a decent song that Barney raps on? I'm thinking there's probably an Electronic song that proves me wrong

The songs are good, Sumner's raps are...tolerable. I think it almost works on "Feel Every Beat."

'Idiot Country'

"Idiot Country" is also weird in that for the chorus Sumner doubletracks himself singing at the top of his register.

< when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in. >

Doves popped into my head when reading this.

Gillian should be brought to the front of the group, imo. Take on some vocals, do some duets w/ Barney. Selfish is a great track.

My mind boggles at the image of Gillian and Bernard center stage looking at each other, nodding, and exchanging guitar riffs.

Bernard just glares at Gillian. The last time I saw New Order, Gillian just stared down at a notebook perched on her synth. Pretty sure the notations were 'right index finger on the red sticker' and 'left index finger on the blue sticker'. I kid, I love Gillian. So glad she's back.

Am I the only person on ILX who actually likes "Jetstream" and "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion"? where is Spencer Chow

oh I was at that Reading gig

me too!

I like "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion." The "I want your love" bit is like New Order attempting Haddaway.

I made a mix of Jetstream without Ana Matronic that I much prefer to the official version. Love Guilt though. Even the Mac Quayle version is good.

where is Spencer Chow

I'm here and I like those songs!

thinking of starting a tumblr for pictures of Stephen Morris grinning

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Arrivals+amfAR+Inspiration+Gala+Part+2+oO6qvMhUaHjl.jpg

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450407164-bernard-sumner-phil-cunningham-tom-chapman-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QfebhzI6yVvMhnCUyLXlaJ3bGhMAxvfCF7cEzDEYpDwL

http://www.worldinmotion.net/newsroom/pictures/2007/DSC00116.jpg

"some distant memory is the best song ever"

undoubtedly; nothing NO has done after technique really touches the first Electronic record. But I do like Turn a lot too on WFSC.

there will be zero good songs on this record but olds will be pumped anyway, which is fine, my iTunes shows that I've listened to the new UFO album 5 times already

Always thought Steve Morris looked liked Stephen Fry's younger, smaller brother.

I've liked at least a couple of songs off each post-"Technique" album. The question is whether someone will try to ape Hook's sound on the new album, which would be just as weird as a New Order album without his bass.

I should say I finally listened to "Lost Sirens" the other day, having forgotten it existed, and promptly forgot it existed again.

i'm looking a bit forward to this. hey maybe we can re-do the New Order poll after it's release.

j/k

two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:

stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man

& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right

many xps Whoa, I've never seen that silver & gold cover variation for True Colours. WANT.

Here to Stay was great, particularly in the extended version, Plastic is good and the teaser from the video also sounded interesting. They should make a whole album with the Chems (or Weatherall).

This excellent live recording of Singularity shows how Tom's bass is going to fit in. Basically sits in the same place as Hooky but without the chorus pedal on. Starts like Joy Division then kicks in with pretty decent lyrics and a reappearance of Gillian's synth lines over top. Good omen for the album.

http://youtu.be/bFb1JLmCdaY

two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:

stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man

& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right

didn't think of musique concrete, d'oh

but I never for a moment meant to suggest that Stephen Morris was anything other than beautiful as a young (or indeed middle aged) man!

Morris grinning as a beautiful young man:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/99c95429271bbfbe867c4395d07e534c/tumblr_np4to4AstW1t0u876o1_540.jpg

stephen morris had the best look in the perfect kiss video

mimicking boredom?

His "Do we have to do it again?" face.

Gotta say that for all the love I have for New Order's blunt charm, that Sumner autobiography is like being trapped at the bar with that hot guy/girl who turns out to be mind-crushingly literal and dull.
I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).

seems like a good ILX pre-cover candidate tbh

― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)

You know...you're on.

And here we go

ILX Pre-Covers New Order's _Music Complete_

I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status. Wonder if Barney returns Billy's phone calls these days ..

Seems Billy and Hooky may be on better terms since Little Hook is joining Bald Billy on tour.

Is The Game just does a cover of the Echo & the Bunnymen song? Could already hear it done with Barney vox in my head

It's a cover of the Queen album, in its entirety.