New Order - Music Complete

'Idiot Country'

"Idiot Country" is also weird in that for the chorus Sumner doubletracks himself singing at the top of his register.

< when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in. >

Doves popped into my head when reading this.

Gillian should be brought to the front of the group, imo. Take on some vocals, do some duets w/ Barney. Selfish is a great track.

My mind boggles at the image of Gillian and Bernard center stage looking at each other, nodding, and exchanging guitar riffs.

Bernard just glares at Gillian. The last time I saw New Order, Gillian just stared down at a notebook perched on her synth. Pretty sure the notations were 'right index finger on the red sticker' and 'left index finger on the blue sticker'. I kid, I love Gillian. So glad she's back.

Am I the only person on ILX who actually likes "Jetstream" and "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion"? where is Spencer Chow

oh I was at that Reading gig

me too!

I like "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion." The "I want your love" bit is like New Order attempting Haddaway.

I made a mix of Jetstream without Ana Matronic that I much prefer to the official version. Love Guilt though. Even the Mac Quayle version is good.

where is Spencer Chow

I'm here and I like those songs!

thinking of starting a tumblr for pictures of Stephen Morris grinning

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Arrivals+amfAR+Inspiration+Gala+Part+2+oO6qvMhUaHjl.jpg

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450407164-bernard-sumner-phil-cunningham-tom-chapman-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QfebhzI6yVvMhnCUyLXlaJ3bGhMAxvfCF7cEzDEYpDwL

http://www.worldinmotion.net/newsroom/pictures/2007/DSC00116.jpg

"some distant memory is the best song ever"

undoubtedly; nothing NO has done after technique really touches the first Electronic record. But I do like Turn a lot too on WFSC.

there will be zero good songs on this record but olds will be pumped anyway, which is fine, my iTunes shows that I've listened to the new UFO album 5 times already

Always thought Steve Morris looked liked Stephen Fry's younger, smaller brother.

I've liked at least a couple of songs off each post-"Technique" album. The question is whether someone will try to ape Hook's sound on the new album, which would be just as weird as a New Order album without his bass.

I should say I finally listened to "Lost Sirens" the other day, having forgotten it existed, and promptly forgot it existed again.

i'm looking a bit forward to this. hey maybe we can re-do the New Order poll after it's release.

j/k

two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:

stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man

& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right

many xps Whoa, I've never seen that silver & gold cover variation for True Colours. WANT.

Here to Stay was great, particularly in the extended version, Plastic is good and the teaser from the video also sounded interesting. They should make a whole album with the Chems (or Weatherall).

This excellent live recording of Singularity shows how Tom's bass is going to fit in. Basically sits in the same place as Hooky but without the chorus pedal on. Starts like Joy Division then kicks in with pretty decent lyrics and a reappearance of Gillian's synth lines over top. Good omen for the album.

http://youtu.be/bFb1JLmCdaY

two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:

stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man

& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right

didn't think of musique concrete, d'oh

but I never for a moment meant to suggest that Stephen Morris was anything other than beautiful as a young (or indeed middle aged) man!

Morris grinning as a beautiful young man:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/99c95429271bbfbe867c4395d07e534c/tumblr_np4to4AstW1t0u876o1_540.jpg

stephen morris had the best look in the perfect kiss video

mimicking boredom?

His "Do we have to do it again?" face.

Gotta say that for all the love I have for New Order's blunt charm, that Sumner autobiography is like being trapped at the bar with that hot guy/girl who turns out to be mind-crushingly literal and dull.
I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).

seems like a good ILX pre-cover candidate tbh

― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)

You know...you're on.

And here we go

ILX Pre-Covers New Order's _Music Complete_

I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status. Wonder if Barney returns Billy's phone calls these days ..

Seems Billy and Hooky may be on better terms since Little Hook is joining Bald Billy on tour.

Is The Game just does a cover of the Echo & the Bunnymen song? Could already hear it done with Barney vox in my head

It's a cover of the Queen album, in its entirety.

did Billy and New Order leave on bad terms? i found the only interview they all did together (in Q) the other day and it was hilarious! i'd scan it in if i .. had a scanner.
it seemed so bizarre at the time when he did the tour with them, but in the photos he was as happy as i've ever seen him. not saying much like..

happy as a man holding cats

The Cure's "Happy the (Cat) Man"

"The Lovecats" - Smashing Pumpkins

I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 26, 2015 1:18 AM (8 hours ago)

I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).

― MatthewK, Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Realistically, I'm expecting one, maybe two very good songs. I'm certainly not expecting any future classics, and I definitely expect there to be filler. A lot of New Order's tension "back in the day" came from Sumner's more electronic direction mixed with Hook preferring the band approach. It's going to be interesting to see what a new New Order record with that tension removed is going to sound like, although I have a sneaking suspicion the end result might lack a bit of edge.

Well probably Republic is a reasonable approximation of NO with Hooky's input dialled out. But Barney has been more guitar-happy in recent years, viz Bad Lieutenant I guess.

Yeah, and I guess Republic can be accused of having a distinct lack of edge to it, bar 'Regret' of course.

That is exactly how I would describe Technique, bar 'Fine Time'.

Oh shit, now I am listening to Republic and liking it a whole lot. "Ruined in a Day" FTW.

Oh, then "Spooky". Never mind, I still hate it apart from Regret and RiaD.

you need to stick around for Everyday Everywhere and Special, at the very least

I just hear Republic as a diary of the dissolution of Factory Records and find it fascinating. Bernard's best album lyrically. Hoping the break-up with Hooky will lend to great lyrics this time. I was also thinking about the fact that Steve and Gillian may be able to contribute some songs to this album now that Hook is gone and remembering that the only number 1 New Order had, was written by The Other Two. 1963 was also apparently a Steve/Gillian song. Definitely looking forward to Music Complete. Hopefully we won't be able to hear Phil Cunningham anywhere on the album. He useless.

Hooky was always full of praise for 1963.

Whereas Bernard would slag off "World (Price of Love)", another Steve/Gillian one.

Basically, they got their wack,

Ugh, special guests on record. Brandon Flowers, La Roux, Iggy.

Shoulda headfaked everyone and said it was Iggy Azalea.

I literally had 90 seconds of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO echoing through my head until my Google search completed.

Flowers finally bored Tennant and Lowe.