2015 NBA DRAFT

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yeah hard to imagine winslow is underrated considering where he played def a couple goofball pick above him tho

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

on Hassan Whiteside continuing to be a top 5 center

which is contingent on him managing to not have a full-on rage meltdown on the court, which is aaaaalways in play - i think it's reasonable insurance lol

slothroprhymes, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Heat fans should focus more on Hassan Whiteside continuing to be a top 5 center and less on celebrating drafting a guy who was projected to go almost exactly where they got him.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, June 26, 2015 3:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

how do you focus on a player in the offseason? is he doing open workouts?

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

lol I mean what exactly are you doing other than swallowing Heat PR about Winslow, watching some Whiteside 2015 mixes isn't really different

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

u can appreciate two players at once it cool

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

i guess I'm just sick of people falling for the "we had him 4th on our board!" thing

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

it's more a function of mock draft culture

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

like the Heat saying that they thought the knicks would take him, give me a fucking break

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

there isn't any mock drafts that had winslow falling, that's all it is

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

he only fell a couple few spots tho

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

dude every mock had him in the 6-10 range and that's where he went xp

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

anyway it was a good pick up for miami imo he seems like a very low downside guy

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

mudiay prob a bigger steal tho

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

he fits Miami's team needs perfectly

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

Winslow would have been a pretty odd pick for the Hornets really.

The Pistons are the team that rolled the dice. Stanley Johnson and Winslow are very close imo. I was more into Johnson but then I saw those hideous finishing numbers.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

this is a really dumb convo but

At their draft-night availability, the Heat handed out a sheet of 20 mock drafts by prominent NBA writers or websites, and 19 had Winslow slotted between fourth and seventh; only one writer had him as low as eighth.

it's not true that winslow was in the 6-10 range. he was in the 4-8 range charitably, but really between denver and detroit. there wasn't a single mock draft, probably since april, that had winslow falling to the heat. every mock draft had the heat taking booker or johnson aka [wing player who isn't justise winslow] or myles turner.

in mock drafts, which is how people who read about the draft get information, winslow was in the tier of wing player above where the heat were drafting. he was too good to fall to the heat. but then he did! it's pretty easy to understand.

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

There was no way Winslow was going in the top 4 and if there really were mocks out there that had him there they were very bad mocks. Porzingis was a top 5 lock, and the Magic weren't gonna pick Winslow.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

I guess Winslow going to the Knicks was just a wild guess based on the fact that the knicks were the only team that basically had no leaks

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

looking at the mocks you're right, Winslow made a late push at the end to get in the 4-8 range. But throughout much of the process 6-10 was about where he was.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

I'm amazed by all the mocks that didn't have Kaminsky to the Hornets, they telegraphed that pretty hard.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 26 June 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

im most surprised that the knicks didnt do something stupid

lag∞n, Friday, 26 June 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

celtics apparently offered 6 picks, including 4 potential firsts, to move up to charlotte's spot for winslow.

call all destroyer, Friday, 26 June 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah, but the hornets don't get frank and don't roll off six straight finals appearances

balls, Friday, 26 June 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

the second round grades here are a great example of the worst kind of draft analysis. Reflexively insulting whenever a player hasn't been scouted by the writer:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/drafttracker

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link

celtics apparently offered 6 picks, including 4 potential firsts, to move up to charlotte's spot for winslow.

― call all destroyer, Friday, June 26, 2015 7:21 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is literally insane

lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

Frank must gonna be a hall of famer.

Jeff, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

if the celtics wanted to be in the lottery so bad they cldve just not made the playoffs

lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link

its funny they didnt even want to take the same player, they just both really didnt want all those draft picks

lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

tbf they were prob all terrible picks but still so many

lag∞n, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

that celtics stuff is unfathomable to me, if any team 6-9 really turned this down....

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link

yeah that story honestly does not scan to me

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 June 2015 08:01 (eight years ago) link

sportscenter just showed this segment on isaiah austin and it's getting pretty dusty in here, my typical cynicism be damned that was a great moment in last year's draft

slothroprhymes, Monday, 29 June 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link


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