wow
― StanM, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
Did anybody notice that there's a mess of Coil back catalogue and live recordings uploaded to Archive.org via Brainwashed (I think), tons of it, FLAC files, DVDs the lot and all for free at the moment, it's quite something.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Coil%22%20AND%20mediatype%3A%28audio%29
― MaresNest, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
Nice, thx for the tip
― brimstead, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
excellent, thanks
― sleeve, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
Moon's Milk bonus disc in FLAC = classic
― sleeve, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
Holy crap
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
I have way too many of those on cd - not that I'm complaining though
― StanM, Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
xmas in July! I'm gonna try to dl as many of these as I can before this disappears. thanks!
― Wimmels, Friday, 3 July 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link
I'm going to need a new hard drive! Over the past few hours, I've downloaded about 75% of the non-live stuff here, including albums I already have because I don't have FLACs of a lot of them. Can anyone tell me which (non-official) live albums here are good, in terms of quality of recording, etc? I'm not saying I don't have the patience or the obsession to sit here and dl them all and sort through them later, I'm just saying I don't have the time to do it right now.
I had forgotten how fucking amazing Black Antlers is. I remember speaking to Andrew L!les once and telling him Ape of Naples was my favorite Coil album, and him telling me he thought it was their worst. HA! I guess I just really love this period.
― Wimmels, Friday, 3 July 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
These must be posted in accordance with sleazy or balance's prior wishes, no? Some of them have been up since February
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 3 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
This was the article that alerted me to it.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/how_to_destroy_angels_for_free_coil
― MaresNest, Friday, 3 July 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
for completists: I don't think I've seen these in that archive:
Transparent (1984, reissued in 1997)Gold is the Metal (1987 compilation, reissued in 1996)Love's Secret Domain (2001 remaster)Stolen and Contaminated Songs (1992)How to Destroy Angels remixes & re-recordings(1992)The Angelic Conversation (1994)Philm 1 EP (1995)Moon's Milk Summer Solstice EP (1998)Time Machines (1998)20' to 2000 - ELpH Zwölf (2000)The New Backwards (2008)Time Machines 2 (2014)
Also, get both versions of Astral Disaster: different versions of some tracks on vinyl and CD. Black Antlers vinyl has a bonus track too.
― StanM, Saturday, 4 July 2015 10:47 (eight years ago) link
what a great way to spend 4th of July
― sarahell, Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
Replace audio with movies in MaresNest's link for a couple of live videos (and converted dvds like ANS or Colour Sound Oblivion)
― StanM, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
Also, there appear to be more Coil recordings on the site than are present at that link. I found the Summer and Winter Solstice EPs, Time Machines, and ELpH Zwolf by using the search bar
― Dan S, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link
I guess this isn't happening anymore?
http://www.brainwashed.com/bark/projects-coil.html
― StanM, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
still really enjoying some of these odds & ends, the rarities collections and the soundtracks and that 1999 Zwolf live show...
― sleeve, Saturday, 8 August 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link
I guess this isn't happening anymore?http://www.brainwashed.com/bark/projects-coil.html― StanM
― StanM
That page was recently updated + first 8 of the (30-odd planned) reissues here: http://www.forcedexposure.com/Labels/THRESHOLD.ARCHIVES.UK.html
― StanM, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 09:21 (eight years ago) link
The recent issue of Backwards seems to have passed here without comment. Unlike these new releases it seems to have been an unauthorized release by former auxiliary Coil member Danny Hyde.
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link
there have been a few unauthorised vinyl reissues recently. this 4 x lp box being the most recent - http://www.discogs.com/Coil-Unnatural-History/release/7038853
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 12:33 (eight years ago) link
I feel like I'm a pretty big Coil fan but I am unfamiliar with most of these singles that are getting reissued with bonus stuff. Which ones are worth getting?
― Wimmels, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link
well I'd say "all of then", but imo the essentials are:
PanicHellraiserWrong Eye/Scope
and maybe The Snow
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link
then them
the anal staircase > hellraiser > the wheel > panic > the snow > wrong eye. but, even wrong eye rules.
i wonder what the masses of extra material on these releases is? something about it all doesn''t quite seem right.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 15 October 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it seems strange - demos and such. Of course I know The Anal Staircase (which I love) and Panic (which I've never been fond of), but I agree something seems dubious about all this extra stuff.
My favorite era is the later / Black Antlers / Ape of Naples stuff, but I pretty much love most eras of Coil unreservedly.
So....who's gonna take one for the team and buy a few of these and report back?
― Wimmels, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
I already did, expect an update soon :)
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Excellent! I have the Threshold Archives page on Forced Exposure page bookmarked.
― Wimmels, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Who is in charge of the estate now, a relation? Brainwashed?
― MaresNest, Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link
hey look finally some information:
http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/14/coils-reissues-through-threshold-archives/
Update, October 14: Former Coil associate Jon Whitney has confirmed that he is organising the releases.
The Archive also stresses upfront the impossibility of an “authorized” Coil release due to the deaths of both members (John Balance died in 2004, marking the end of the project), concluding that “without Balance and Sleaz, there is no official Coil release nor will there ever be again. Nothing that bears the word ‘Coil’ is authorized, official, or sanctioned by Coil as Coil has ceased to exist.” Despite that, the detail and dedication of these releases is worth the attention of any fan.
not sure what I think abt that
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
I believe there have been more updates to the link Stan posted as the revive, this does look legit:
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
If Jon's involved I'm good with it -- he'd been doing all this work to try and get things organized. Maybe the subtext here is simply that there is no final way to dot i's and cross t's. I'm really wondering now if there simply wasn't any legal provision for the estates.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
I'm ordering all of them, I can't not, I'm a completist :-)
― StanM, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
i know little of coil, but i do have 'scatology' on vinyl (due to foetus production basically).
is that not regarded as part of their classic era catalogue as i rarely see it mentioned ?
― mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
Panic (which I've never been fond of),
panic is all about its wondrous b-side
and, scatology is definitely classic.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link
Picked up the Backwards reissue at the local shop (where I was frankly surprised to see it). So nice to have a proper release of the New Orleans versions of "A Cold Cell" and "Fire Of the Mind," and the second half of this thing (the half that sounds the most like The New Backwards) is pretty great. But I've always preferred strange / mysterious / beautiful Coil to angry / dark / evil Coil, and some of these are a little too abrasive for me; it may indeed be the bridge between LSD and MTPinD, and I can definitely hear that, but the more NIN-sounding stuff on here (which I realize is like saying "Oasis-sounding Beatles stuff") is decidedly not my favorite Coil material. Interested to hear other opinions.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 19 October 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
i totally agree. the abrasive tracks on backwards are probably my least favourite things they ever did. indeed, their hook up with trent reznor didn't seem to bring out the best in them as i never really loved their NIN remixes either.
― stirmonster, Monday, 19 October 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
Weird uncanny beautiful coil is the coil I like. Faves are Musick... Dark, the Equinox/Solstice EPs, and the very last albums. I know there's stuff in that vein I'm missing (some of which I doubtless already downloaded from the archive dot org dump and haven't got to yet!)
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 October 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
^^^ agreed
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 October 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
This is why I watch any 2000s-era live Coil on YT : their use of sound and space and Jhonn B's voice in combination were untouchable in their final years.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 October 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
tracklists now available:
http://www.discogs.com/label/910477-Threshold-Archives
― sleeve, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link
oh, bloody hell! i'm going to have to buy my first cds in years and get 6 of these. i will also need to buy a cd player. before i splurge, does anyone know if they plan to do them on vinyl?
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link
Just got all 8 CDs and the Cold Spring version of Backwards in the mail from Forced Exposure yesterday. A little disappointed with the extremely minimal packaging—they're just in sleeves, with no notes or even a tracklisting to speak of—but obviously the music is great. Love the "Pre-Original Chaostrophy," gorgeous.
― spastic heritage, Thursday, 22 October 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link
obviously the music is the most important thing but it feels a little at odds with the whole coil ethos for these to be so spartan.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 October 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
That is disappointing. All of them are like that? I guess they're pretty inexpensive, though I am sure you are like me in that you'd have gladly paid a few bucks extra for a nice booklet, maybe with some liner notes and period pics. The "no tracklisting" thing seems especially weird to me.
― Wimmels, Friday, 23 October 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link
Sound samples: https://boomkat.com/labels/137507
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Friday, 23 October 2015 05:55 (eight years ago) link
OK this cover of "Meet Murder My Angel" is amazing, chalk one up for the 'Wrong Eye' CD
CDs are in cardboard sleeves with no inserts or any track info... the sleeves are glossy, color, and nicely printed. More thoughts later.
― sleeve, Monday, 26 October 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link
...aaaand they appear to no longer be available, jfc. The FE link above is empty.
hope Whitney just sold out of the first run and presses more ASAP
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link
Gone from Discog,s too. They were all up there for $12 apiece
Again, I snooze and lose.
:(
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
gone from boomkat too.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
lots of discussion on the Discogs page for Threshold Archives
amazon.com states it will have these for sale at $11.98 each on 13 November, accepting pre-orders. I ordered one today. Let's see.
http://www.discogs.com/reviews?page=1&label=Threshold+Archives
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link