I'm still not entirely sure who Kim Kardashian is or why people know all about her

if only there was a site that discussed movies or culture that we could search that was familiar, in order to get a reference point for what these apparent celebrities are about and how they relate to our corner of the world

There is nothing interesting about celebrity culture except how it operates as part of the world. The content is entirely meaningless

like maybe kim seems unique bc she's not really tethered to a specific industry as a gateway to celebrity

There is nothing interesting about celebrity culture except how it operates as part of the world. The content is entirely meaningless

― plax (ico), Monday, July 6, 2015 4:44 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/jaden-and-willow-smith-exclusive-joint-interview/?_r=1

There is nothing interesting about celebrity culture except how it operates as part of the world. The content is entirely meaningless

― plax (ico), Monday, July 6, 2015 4:44 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that is a weird thing to say. there is nothing interesting about anything except "how it operates as part of the world"

being a famous socialite used to be its own thing, now you have to have a trail of reality television and iPhone games to keep relevant

She was on one of those reality shows you don't watch, Mordy.

was kim famous in this way before the reality show? i think of her as a reality celeb; she has "transcended" it i guess but the whole point of the category is to make a run for transcendence, become a brand, etc. paris was basically a reality celeb too.

isn't it tautological to say "she was not famous in this way before..."? i mean, the whole point of her is that she continually finds new ways of being famous.

i will be continuing to build my own brand itt by making people's points 30secs after they make them

Lots of cultural products are uninteresting to watch or listen to but have certain historical interest attached to them for example

what "cultural product" are you referring to?

I think leni Riefenstahl's films are very bad?

Entrepreneur.com is mad as hell about the idea that Kim Kardashian is an entrepreneur.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/248045

This is what a real entrepreneur looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pcugHrsCFo

whatever you do, don't make a drinking game where you drink every time he says 'entrepreneur*"

KK is more of an enterpren-flaneur

consumable chunks is the name of her dog

in many respects she's become a shorthand for vapid and idle decadence in the way that paris hilton was a little earlier, an instance of this very common move on the left and right alike of locating 'everything that's wrong with the world today' in a particularly feminine-coded form of self-definition under consumer society, as if picking on individual women and girls is the way to combat what's wrong with consumer capitalism

Merdeyeux very otm here. at the same time vapid and idle decadence of this sort is p much always gross so I don't have a lot of sympathy for her

tbh I don't think Kim is looking for your sympathy

She's probably the most well-known proponent for the US recognition of the Armenian genocide

― too young for seapunk (Moodles)

this is one of the things I knew about her, thanks to ILX I believe

Merdeyeeux OTM x2

lol how in the world is this not a thread from 2008

Kristin Cavallari is married to Chicago Bears Quarterback, Jay Cutler. We all know that!!

As far as I can tell the lamest thing she's done is wear fur. I don't know her & don't really want to speculate about her worth as a human being; I know we're supposed to hate rich people but really I don't care. Maybe I'd be actively annoyed by her if I lived in southern California. I'm more inclined to direct my ire at the people who leaked her sex tape.

lol how in the world is this not a thread from 2008

― call all destroyer, Monday, July 6, 2015 7:11 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

i had this thought too

She's probably the most well-known proponent for the US recognition of the Armenian genocide

I thought Serj Tankian was tbrh

i like dreaming of things to buy when i look at instagrams

use snapchat for people typically

dont really care about kimmmy kard. dont feel like this is a relevant position or anything. i like that ppl like that dont exist at all in my world. maybe there is a tv show called 'lacuna beach'

whoa now the thread jumped back another six or seven years! xp

anyway i do think that at one point opening the instagram app and seeing like

a pic by schlump a pic by crut a pic by kim karadashian a pic by lex'

was maybe unsettling according to the (now old) standards of celebrity culture

you can @ POTUS and tell him you would like to fist him or take him out to a nice dinner and maybe a cool french arthouse movie or both idk it's wild =]

'lacuna beach'

lol

i don't even own a television

was maybe unsettling according to the (now old) standards of celebrity culture

there was a point where most of my followd were for consumer products and seeing my friends stage-y instagram photos of like beach parties and shows and stuff was sortof queasy but then i didnt think about it

i feel like instagram cld be a powerful expression of my truest self because i think and connect via images of things but the app is really hard to use on my phone so i never bother and my account is dormant and unpopular

i think this explains all u need to know about instagram btw you're welcome in advance plax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvoCqYB6t3w

I was in LA a couple of years back and a bunch of people on our sightseeing bus tour went completely mental at me because apparently I stood next to Rob Kardashian when I was taking photos on Rodeo Drive and didn't take a photo of him. I had no idea who he was. He seems to have made somewhat less of an impression on popular culture than his sisters, possible because his mother couldn't think of a boy's name starting with K for him.

All I know about even Kim is shes the one with the arse. I dont know shit about the rest of them.

No mention of the whole Bahrain thing?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/03/why-people-are-so-upset-about-kim-kardashians-odd-visit-to-bahrain/

most people know her as 'kim k' from gucci mane's immortal "making love to the money" (2010)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46TmSTjLYJw

Her godfather is OJ Simpson.

weird that plax turned into tuomas + aimless

lol guess i'm the only ilxor who sometimes reads dlisted

I find it interesting that people think being "famous for nothing/famous for being famous" is easy. Kim Kardashian was interviewed onstage recently - I forget when/where - and she said that the reality show, which mostly depicts the partying/attending events/bickering with mom & sisters part of her life is (obviously) edited down to just that because if the camera crew followed her around for an entire day of meetings it would be a very boring show. I mean, we're talking about a woman in her 30s who has actually accomplished quite a bit within the media sphere - she's got at least one book, has acted in I think two or three movies, has a very popular TV show, a successful modeling career while not possessing anything close to a typical model's body...she is a very successful businesswoman, but there's this pernicious idea that she's some kind of vapid puppet who has somehow lucked into a gigantic multimedia empire, solely on the basis of her sex tape. It's pretty fucked up.

weird that plax turned into tuomas + aimless

― mookieproof, Monday, July 6, 2015 7:50 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 u mookie

so weird hur *farts cat lols*

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2015/05/selfish_kim_kardashian_west_s_book_of_selfies_reviewed.html

i rarely think about this person but as shorthand for extreme spectacle she's useful, it seems that's been her goal in fact. oh yeah i hate women. j/k

her hair was black, but then it was blonde

"She does what she likes, and dates who she likes. Armenian do date, but mostly guys that they are going to marry, and don't have sex before marriage,"
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20932705

in many respects she's become a shorthand for vapid and idle decadence in the way that paris hilton was a little earlier, an instance of this very common move on the left and right alike of locating 'everything that's wrong with the world today' in a particularly feminine-coded form of self-definition under consumer society, as if picking on individual women and girls is the way to combat what's wrong with consumer capitalism― Merdeyeux, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:33Bookmark Flag Post

Possibly this is true. I can't say I've ever heard anyone relay this statement. I do think that there are many ways that people talk about what's wrong with consumer capitalism all the time, even in mainstream press, in which they don't mention celebrity culture. I doubt anyone is blaming the privatisation of the nhs on this woman in any print media, but then I am willing to accept I might be completely wrong. I think it's totally valid to be critical of the ways celebrity culture celebrates consumption and wealth as forms of social validation. And the ways that social media intensifies the porousness between everyday life and this spectacle. I think in part saying you have nothing to do with this entrepreneur is partly a rejection that ones eyeballs can be simply assumed as an asset of this particular shell company.

there are loads of celebrities who do what Kim K does -- reality shows, clothing lines, profiting off of fame in general -- for decades and nobody blinks because they had a hit movie or song one time or brief success in sports or modelling or something. i think people are still invested in the whole 'meritocracy' idea of pop culture and that you have to have done something great once or twice before you can do all the stuff she's done and the 'socialite --> sex tape' etc hard she had is not honorable. i guess i get it, but at the same time being OFFENDED at her fame seems to require a large unexamined amount of credulity and reverence for every other goofball who ever wound up famous.

the thing where people who'd never ever say they think that a woman derives her worth from her husband have suddenly become steadfast admirers of Kim K in the last 3 years, that's kinda funny to me, though.

the 'socialite --> sex tape' etc hard she had is not honorable

i meant to say 'arc' instead of 'hard' lol how unfortunate