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More Television -- the legendary Eno demos!

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

tyler:

this neil boot is obv awesome.

but what the hell is up with the audience..they are like cutting up during "long may you run" like it's some kinda fuckin' joke...wanna travel back in time and strangle these smug hippies.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, and they all laugh at the ambulance blues "you're all just pissin in the wind" line. Funny, "Long May You Run" sort of *seems* like a joke song, but I actually think it's one of Neil's most touching songs. The Beach Boys line (which yeah, the audience on that boot totally guffaws at) always gets me, as a former SoCal guy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think long may you run is totally touching.

but i guess the beach boys line would hit ppl different then, pre all the "OMG smile is a lost classic brian is a genius" stuff...i guess they were just nerd band then probably.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm sure a beach boys reference in 1974 would have people thinking lol corny beach boys ... though I'm sure Neil was always pretty into them -- "Let's Go Away For Awhile" is on that Journey Through the Past sdtk from around the same time.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

he was also bros with dennis wilson back in the manson days i think. some sweet times, i'm sure.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see how "Long May You Run" could be heard as a joke song, but the Bottom Line version is so...downbeat and intense, I don't see how they bust out. At first I thought it was because of something else that was happening, like someone falling over in the audience, but no, they laugh at particular lines of the song. The reaction to "the last time I saw you alive" is especially weird.

Euler, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

well, there's something funny about the concept of singing a downbeat, intense love song to your car, but Neil ends up selling it more convincingly than some of his actual love songs.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

hah! I've never listened closely enough to the words to pick up that it's sung to his car (despite listening to the song for 20 years now). Even in the original version he emotes so well that yeah, it comes across as serious rather than jokey.

Euler, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, it's def. about his car! kinda wry, but overall, I think it's in earnest! Dude loves his cars.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah I get it now, the "chrome heart" business, long may you run rather than malfunction. I could see laughing now except for the way Neil pulls it off on the boot, so slow.

Euler, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

plenty more Neil on the way, once I get through with this epic television overview I've got planned. might go deep into the 80s with neil next time. was just listening to a great int'l harvesters set.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

hey tyler since u seem to be a neil bootleg ninja...

is there a different version of "ordinary people" floating around, without the bad 80s production that's on the "chrome dreams II" version?

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a live version with the Bluenotes, but it sounds essentially the same -- almost like they recorded it on the same day! i made a neil young in the 80s bootleg mix a while back with that, the 20-minute crime in the city, interstate and a bunch of other interesting stuff. maybe i'll post that as the next neil installment.

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, that would be great! I've never heard the 20 min "Crime In The City".

What about the Eldorado EP? I guess that's not technically a bootleg but I've never heard it...the ones floating around the net seem to just be the versions off Freedom plus "Cocaine Eyes" and "Heavy Love", but I gather there's a different version of "Don't Cry" that's like a minute longer (all feedback). I'd love to hear it sometime.

Euler, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i might be wrong but i think the songs from the el dorado EP that also show up on Freedom are the same versions? Maybe they're different mixes. the long "Crime in the City" is definitely worth hearing! A lot of verses!

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, even more Television has been posted. We're not even past 1975! This show is a great one though. Maybe the best pre-Marquee Moon show ...

tylerw, Thursday, 2 April 2009 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

wow that television show! thank u so much

laying | (goole), Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link

wow dude I'm still catching up. This Feelies show!! Slipping Into Mayhem! I've only heard the mislabeled 86 show at the Rat w/r/t live Feelies, which is terrific but this... scorching stuff.

willem, Thursday, 2 April 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"Dude loves his cars"

And his dogs.
A friend of mine had a 1976 bootleg from Osaka, I think - I remember it being totally killer, do you maybe have something like that too? :)

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the osaka 1976 show was one of the first neil bootlegs i ever heard, i think -- a friend bought it on tape at some random pasadena record store. it's incredible -- that whole 1976 Japanese tour is one of the best Neil Young/Crazy Horse period. There'll definitely be some of that on the blog soon.

tylerw, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a live version with the Bluenotes, but it sounds essentially the same -- almost like they recorded it on the same day! i made a neil young in the 80s bootleg mix a while back with that, the 20-minute crime in the city, interstate and a bunch of other interesting stuff. maybe i'll post that as the next neil installment.

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man i keep wishing that some awesome version done by him and crazy horse around ragged glory or something like that will surface

would love to hear that 80s stuff though.

listening to the george harrison now, really nice!

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

this blog rules.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

thx dude, glad you're liking it. i'm having a good time digging through all this stuff.

tylerw, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks, Tyler!

Marco Damiani, Friday, 3 April 2009 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Adding in again. Some mighty fine stuff here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 April 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

aw, thanks. more Television demos up now. The "Little Johnny Jewel" sessions. This Television thing is becoming kind of epic. I just have a lot of it.

tylerw, Friday, 3 April 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

lovin this feelies

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 4 April 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

sooooo good

tylerw, Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

it's so fast!

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

for such a mild-mannered looking band, they're actually kind of ferocious. i mean, i hear about how intense and nuts bands like sonic youth and husker du and big black were in the 80s, but these recordings of the feelies are just as intense, if not moreso.

tylerw, Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

my foot tapping is driving my roommate crazy i think

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

crazy

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

rhythm

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 4 April 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

yet more Television -- a tasty set from early 1976.

tylerw, Monday, 6 April 2009 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

a double shot of Television at the end of 1976 is up now. This is one of the must-haves.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yuk!!!

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait to hear this.

willem, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 07:26 (fifteen years ago) link

even if yr not downloading, it's worth a look just for the CBGB ad posted. Feelies, John Cale, Television, Talking Heads all in the span of a couple weeks. Twas a hot time on the Bowery.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

another late 1976 Television show up now ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"Feelies, John Cale, Television, Talking Heads all in the span of a couple weeks"

its disgusting! :)

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

in tiny print: "Ramones canceled."

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

and that must've been one of the Feelies first gigs, too. I think they formed in 1976.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Television were really channeling VU in that '75 version of Breaking in my heart.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that Kingdom Come is bad.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, "Breakin In My Heart" is definitely their version of the "Sister Ray"/"Roadrunner" riff there. Love that recording so much ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Weird to know that most of the best Verlaine's songs were already written before their 1st album.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

right? the bulk of the second album was already written in 75 ... he had a pretty productive period. i like Verlaine live in the 80s, but mainly for the guitar playing/band interplay. He definitely didn't write that many classic songs after Television called it quits.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

so we've finally made it to 1977 with this Television overview. I've posted one of the weirder shows I've got: Television opening for ... Peter Gabriel.

tylerw, Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

now up, Television plays Manchester, spring of 1977 ...

tylerw, Saturday, 11 April 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw that earlier - the situation really sucks. Any hope of retrieval from the internet archive or anything?

emil.y, Saturday, 14 August 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

hopefully tyler kept all these files, bummer

sleeve, Saturday, 14 August 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

I was just marveling at the excellent unreleased John Cale stuff I got from Doom & Gloom. I hope you work something out!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 15 August 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link

Tumblr say it ain't so. Ugh

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 August 2021 04:23 (two years ago) link

Anyone heard about this new site, Toom & Dloom?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 August 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link

Lol, all a big misunderstanding apparently. We are back in business. Was a stressful day yesterday though!

tylerw, Sunday, 15 August 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

Happy for you and for us

that's not my post, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

oh good!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

undoomed and degloomed

Brad C., Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

Gloom Exhumed From the Tomb

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

like jesus, rising from the tomb on a sunday morning.

i do have to get off of tumblr though.

tylerw, Sunday, 15 August 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

I pay about $100 a year to host Burning Ambulance on Wordpress and the site's never gone down or given me the slightest problem in 11 years.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 15 August 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Big round up of live tapes posted in the year 2021. https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/671827546213646336/doom-gloom-the-year-in-bootlegs-pharoah-sanders

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

!!! yay

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link

Too good. Lose yourself....

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

awesome thanks Tyler!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

guys, I'm over on substack now if that's what you're into.

https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.substack.com/

tylerw, Saturday, 5 November 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

yay!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

Interesting

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

2023 bootleg roundup! https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/737147848129495040/the-year-in-bootlegs

some crucial re-ups in there ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:20 (four months ago) link

Cool.

Nine Inch Males (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:29 (four months ago) link

nice!

budo jeru, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:30 (four months ago) link


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