Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/plum-juice-glass-realistic-full-drink-cocktail-straw-isolated-white-background-vector-illustration-41601780.jpg

almost as if it was just an intrinsic part of human communication

Well, maybe, it's sometimes pretty forced and some people just don't have the Zing/Snark chops but feel as if they have to join in when they should leave it to the experts.

I'm rambling now, I'm going home.

Your mums an expert

there used to be better handwringing on ilm too. step it up, you guys!

i think that ACTUAL valuable new posters are coming in and will continue coming in, although it takes a while sometimes to see who's gonna stick around, and which Raccoon Tanuki's are worth trolling back until they go away

― some dude, Thursday, July 9, 2015 12:37 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as a relatively new poster (started in 2013), it is extremely hard to understand the culture of ilxor, took me a while to understand a few things and i still feel outside the circle at times. you need to invest time, and none of my friends my age really care about discussing music on a message board (they will do it on twitter, facebook, etc).

OK tom I'm not sure I buy that, quite aside from the fact that you employ the zing/snark register as often (and as well) as any given poster I don't think I agree that it's that dominant around here really, even if I cared about these putative swooning consumptives "scared off" by internet zingers. Maybe I've missed the really vicious stuff tho

some of us still wade in and call something that half the music board really likes shit, which always goes well

im revisiting art bears now because of my subunconscious spitting out that name upthread. this sounds more like art-rock than prog-rock (their 1981 album at least). that's not a bad thing

I want art-rock / art-pop thread revivals

and i still feel outside the circle at times

i've been here over 10 years, and this feeling never leaves.

there is a cracking 'hello ilm' thread somewhere that used to be pretty snarky, but recently has been a genuinely warm welcome for newcomers.

if only there was a 'sticky' thread option.

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It's a small issue but one thing I've always liked about ILM is if you make a misstep, you don't get an instantaneous beat down from some gatekeeper hard man, more snark or gentle steering in the right direction unlike some more specific forums on or off FB where hair trigger peeps go from zero to apoplectic in one exchange.

― MaresNest, Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is absolutely key.

1. There are actually community mores here which people are interested/invested in enforcing, but

2. the enforcement happens in such a (for the internet) civilized way

^^^^ in regards to both ilm and ile

One important reason why twitter is better than ilx is that it's a lot easier to have conversations with people other than white dudes. ;)

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:29 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is my major problem with ILX (as a white dude), and I don't know how to address it. Gatekeeping for the purpose of a better discussion is without a doubt part of what makes this place what it is but I think that in practice it shades hard into the everyday forms of exclusion all of the overly-white-duded institutions practice. As much as they are blocked or subverted in practice, there are at least known levers for making communities and institutions more inclusive - how can you encourage that to happen in a message board?

By paying attention to ppl who aren't white dudes?

As a white dude I'm not feeling 'the everyday forms of exclusion', you'll have the occasional diss on the War on Drugs but heh.

I don't get this topic at all, really.

yes you do Austin stop lying

Never understood the need to post about posting.

^^^ posting about not posting about posting

I don't think I'm a very nasty poster but I've also never been scared off, it's always kinda mystified me that people might find it super intimidating.

whenever I recall any of the posters that pushed the 'I know loads of ppl that don't/won't post to ilx when I tell them about it' line I always think yeah I'd avoid your version of ilx too I'd say.

I can't think of too many who pushed this line that weren't v capable of being nasty cunts themselves as and when it suited them. int life funny.

going meta keeps us grounded
we can admit that a lot of what we say is in hope of winning the coveted zing thread quote archive

and i'm sure there's more to admit behind about our posting styles

I don't think I'm a very nasty poster but I've also never been scared off, it's always kinda mystified me that people might find it super intimidating.

― Tim F, Friday, 10 July 2015 08:28 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're extremely eloquent & assured in your expression of opinion; I have never seen you flustered or backtracking; not all have these gifts and not all lack the self-awareness that would necessitate a cautious approach when understaffed with sage conviction

of course, some of us lack that self-awareness and dash ourselves upon your shores over and over again. expect some petulant words about years & years come EOY time lol

Not downplaying the obvious and actual trends discussed itt, but with 44 threads updated in the last 12 hours, "quiet" is a relative term.

yeah but they were all updated by me.

ILE (maybe not so much ilm) does not really feel so lacking in non white dude presence to me? But I'm a white dude so my perception may be skewed. Certainly there are tons and and tons of active posters about whose gender and ethnicity I have no idea!

I've tended to assume that the majority of posters here are white and male.

Part of me has kind of wanted some sort of demographics survey to see how off my perceptions are.

you guys should have been at my store last night. what a show! 4 great acts. at one point, my basement reverberated with the sounds of italian horror movies.

https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11737930_10154068668112137_1580855551284872626_n.jpg?oh=6ced29a89452ba2014adc7a9461526fc&oe=5627D3A6

I must admit I never think of anyones racial or religious make up on here. I have no idea what most people look like.

but even I notice ILM is overwhelmingly male unlike 14 years ago

This is how I imagine you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHZZ5bwASU

couldn't be less like me if you tried.I have short hair (not balding) and i wouldnt be seen dead in that type of tshirt. And idgaf about slayer

Dog Latin has gone in on Years & Years! One for the team, good luck out there pal!

more like my ears, my ears amirite

i let becoming a best new poster go to my head. gonna settle down now

How often do you post on ILM?

couldn't be less like me if you tried.I have short hair (not balding) and i wouldnt be seen dead in that type of tshirt. And idgaf about slayer

― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, July 10, 2015 11:23 AM (17 minutes ago)

After all this time you can't tell when I'm joking. ILM IS LOST

i know you were joking. you have seen me, you used to do those chatz yahoo live thingies

Dog Latin has gone in on Years & Years! One for the team, good luck out there pal!

Yeah wow this really shook things up

lol

sometimes first thought = best thought

what ILM definitely needs is more posts about music people don't love

The rolling worst music thread gets bumped every few weeks.

if ILM being "loud" requires new posters then I'd expect it to continue to be quiet as the amount of money spent on music per person continues to decline (assuming that's true? it feels true, isn't that a enough of a standard for a post?)

dunno about ILE, I took it off SNA a long time ago, only check it once or twice a day (plus whatever threads I've bookmarked)

money might be spent less but with streaming services/youtube etc being free its probably never been listened to more.

I wanna see word count per user and who types the most words vs most posts.

quality vs quantity

I forgot everyone moved to https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

ILXOR Snow Playing?