i've heard qualifications and arguments against this but it is just so fucked up to keep hearing stories about parents leaving their kids in hot cars, like do you fucking get it?
― marcos, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
I just read a stat somewhere that like half of the deaths from that every year are actually the result of parents FORGETTING the child is in the car (and often due to forgetting to drop the kid off at daycare on the way to work). Which is unfathomable to me, and seems like it has to be either the result of total exhaustion (working 100 hour weeks or something) or being high/drunk.
― five six and (man alive), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
it was unfathomable to me as well until the day that we were driving somewhere with the boys in the car, I don't remember where, and I dropped my wife off at a fast food restaurant to get us some food and then parked and went inside to help her carry stuff out and she looked at me like I was insane and said "WHERE ARE OUR CHILDREN" and I went "oh yeah, we have kids now" because since they were asleep and facing backwards in the back seat, I had completely forgotten they were there
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
Total exhaustion fairly common imeAlthough the idea of having a nice quiet baby in the car is lol to me
― kinder, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
^^^ yeah my kids are never silent in the car (unless Judah has fallen asleep)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
like so//c1.staticflickr.com/1/486/19772086290_35c14f6570_n.jpg
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
sleeps like a boss
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
I think a lot of it is sleep deprivation.
xp awwww
― carl agatha, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
so my wife's friend that we were concerned would turn out to be a horrible parent is apparently well on her way to turning into a horrible parent - against that admonitions of her friends/family/doctors/the internet since giving birth a little less than a year ago she has the kid watch TV with her (no matter what she's watching), parks the kid in front of the TV on their own, etc. And this is a woman who watches a lot of TV. She is unswayed by arguments about cognitive development - hope yr kid doesn't turn out to be a behavioral nightmare + moro! Glad we live in another city ayiyyiyi
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
Welp, the kid will probably grow up to be a heavy consumer of television, just like her/his mom.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
a safe bet
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Miraculous society really, where you can get through life that way and still live to a fairly old age by historical standards.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
allow me my petty feelings of superiority
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
growing up we had these neighbors down the block. the dad i never saw, the mom would park herself in front of the television all day and long into the night. there wasn't a single night i drove home past their house that the light from the television couldn't be glimpsed through the window. they had three daughters, each of whom got into increasingly crazy amounts of trouble, and i'm pretty sure the parents never really kept a single eye on them. i just heard that a few days back the mom died sitting on the couch in that same house while watching tv. i hadn't driven by that house since i was 18.
― nomar, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
That has an almost folk tragedy quality to it. She was the John Henry of television watching.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
What are the developmental disadvantages to kids watching tv?
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 19 August 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
standard line I hear from childcare professionals (ed directors, Kaiser pediatrics, etc.) is that any screentime prior to the age of 2 or so is not recommended
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
American Academy of Pediatrics statement (2011): http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/128/5/1040
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
How is your baby supposed to become an Einstein without watching a video?
― schwantz, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
I was raised in a limited-television household and my children who have as much access to media (tv, games, phones, computers, tablets) as they want are far more intelligent and mature than I was at their respective ages. Also we keep sweets openly around the house and they eat them rarely, rather than bingeing on them out of scarcity on the rare occasions when they come around. I dunno. I realize that's anecdotal and correlation doesn't equal causation, but it's worked well for us.
― how's life, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
have studies been done on how sub-2-yr-old children react to music?
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 19 August 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
I was 1 yo when TV taught me to speak English. I'd wake up at 6am, turn on the TV and watch 'English for new Australians'.
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 19 August 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
my children who have as much access to media (tv, games, phones, computers, tablets)
how old are they? I forget. Bear in mind my comment is strictly about infants - once kids are talking/social/in school etc. it's a different story
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ESUjomK.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 20 August 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link
IMO that's a mother who knows that making eye contact with a sleepy baby wakes them right up, and is silently cursing the well meaning stranger.
― Madchen, Saturday, 20 August 2016 08:52 (seven years ago) link
Either that, or she's texting the father to ask where the hell he is, because he was meant to be back 10 minutes ago.
― Madchen, Saturday, 20 August 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link
xxxp: 5 and 12, but they watched television or were exposed to it as infants/toddlers. I really wish tablets had been available back when my older kid was little though. The educational games they have now are great.
― how's life, Saturday, 20 August 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link
Updated AAP guidance on media for under-twos: http://www.aappublications.org/content/36/10/54">'Beyond 'Turn It Off''
― ljubljana, Saturday, 20 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
Guy in facebook neighborhood parent group needlessly interjects pro-gun talk into a thread about a burglary (the victim had actually thwarted the burglarly without a gun, and the burglary only happened because the burglar thought no one was home).
Among other things, he said that his own dad keeps a loaded shotgun on the dresser, and that he doesn't worry about going there with his young daughter because she "doesn't scale things."
Later he posted an unrelated thread about the experience he and his "roommates" had with Verizon fios or something. Lol you no-custody-having, responsibility-shirking manchild motherfucker how about you stop offering opinions on gun safety and home protection.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
Just realized same dude also posted a pretty pathetic post in another group I'm in about issues with seeing his daughter on weekends -- it actually sounded like his ex was being difficult, but the fool also still had not bothered to get a lawyer and no official custody arrangement had even been set as a result, his ex just had the daughter during the week and then made him jump through a few hoops to get her on the weekends. Dude is just not an adult, basically.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link
ie an average american
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
facebook neighborhood parent group
here's where this all went wrong
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
ha yes
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
btw this is NYC, so gun nuts are a relative novelty
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
Would you post to facebook photos of your kid sleeping in hospital bed, admitted for meningitis, as well as hospital mask selfies, y/n?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
jfc no
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
yeah, I mean
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
also, the long-ass post accompanying the hospital mask selfie (which, afaict, depicted a zany, smiling expression) noted that the kid had asked for no more pictures of him to facebook.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
But aside from respect for privacy and basic dignity of my own kids, I just cannot imagine being in the state of mind to even THINK to post photos to facebook while that's going on
i took a picture of my cat when he was seriously ill and at the vet for my wife who was at work at the time because she wanted to see how he looked. i then deleted it from my phone because it seemed unseemly and weird to have a picture of a my sick cat.
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
When my daughter was in the hospital with pneumonia, I don't think I posted anything to facebook, and I post a fucking lot
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link
I would not do that.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
appropriate use of this thread fwiw cuz fuck no
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
You don't even use Facebook at all!
Not sure if I'd do this. Maybe? When my kid was in the hospital for surgery back in '08, I didn't. Nowadays, maybe? I think I put pictures on Flickr.
― schwantz, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
true this was an easy one to answer for me lol :)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
but seriously if one of your boys said "please don't post this on facebook!" I assume you would respect his wishes...
Not if it was hilarious.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
That's true.
― schwantz, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link
more science: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170504083141.htm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link