Joanna Newsom - Divers (clusterfuck topic tbd)

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xp ozymandian

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

hey everyone, no one cares that you find Joanna Newsom bothersome or whatever

um welcome to a joanna newsom thread on ilm, a music message board on the internet

hence me making a pointless comment

geoffreyess, Monday, 10 August 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Breaking news: people who didn't like Joanna Newsom before still don't like Joanna Newsom. Please keep us updated on all the developments in this story. Please.

I ate a unicorn

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

i liked the last album a lot, found it amazing really, so i am looking forward to hearing this

j., Monday, 10 August 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, it was probably the best album that came out that year. But she used to sing in a peculiar voice so it's probably also garbage.

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

1. By no means was it.
2. It was.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

don't you have some old spoon records to jizz over

j., Monday, 10 August 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Hello, my name is Johnny Fever. I'm typically easy going and open to loving many types of music. I do make sure, though, to carve time out of my busy schedule to endlessly slam Joanna Newsom and, if necessary, people who won't shut up about her. BECAUSE SHE IS TERRIBLE!

:D xoxoxoxo

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

JF, I would like to explain objective facts to you, basically they are things like 'Joanna Newsom is great' that can't be argued with because science.

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

no artist should be judged by his or her fans' terrible cover versions

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

debatable

Spottie, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

xp uh em, let me finish. that is because an artist should be judged by his or her songmeanings.com interpretations.

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

from postmeanings.thread:

Hello, my name is Johnny Fever. I'm typically easy going and open to loving many types of music. I do make sure, though, to carve time out of my busy schedule to endlessly slam Joanna Newsom and, if necessary, people who won't shut up about her. BECAUSE SHE IS TERRIBLE!

:D xoxoxoxo

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 10, 2015 1:29 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fever says his name is 'Johnny Fever' because that is actually not his name. Though he is 'typically' easy going and open to many types of music, Fever notes in this post that there are indeed instances when he is not so easy going and open. 'carve' has double meaning here because Fever is a professional pumpkin carver. 'busy' is likely sarcastic because halloween is more than 2 months away.

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

I think it's fair for JN fans to ask, isn't there a place around here where I can go to get pumped about a new JN album without people just treating it like a pile-on jokefest that never ends? However there is also an answer to that ask, it just arrived via Unicorngram, and it's "no"

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

look there are two kinds of music fans: those that enjoy some good 'gism and those that don't. Joanna's songs load me up with that good 'gism is the thing.

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

'gism is of course short for syllogism

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Majority of the posts actually positive so far?

All those clips except "81" are songs from her first album, right? The woman that does "81" sounds good to me. I don't know, I especially enjoy listening to her songs with a lyric sheet. New song is beautiful.

timellison, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

the multi-tracked vibrato minute of this is so rad & promising

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

that song is intersting, i could get into this. i've sort of avoided her because she's california royalty, which i know is like my own hang-up. well i guess i don't have to buy anything.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

Ys is still is that mindblowing monument of an album.

abcfsk, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

is it too much to ask the no-newsom crew to comes up with some new zings, you guys have had like 5 years.

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

look there are two kinds of music fans: those that enjoy some good 'gism and those that don't. Joanna's songs load me up with that good 'gism is the thing.

― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, August 10, 2015 4:27 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'gism is of course short for syllogism

― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, August 10, 2015 4:27 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is straight up gross

La Lechera, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

just trying to touch hearts larger than a thimble, but I apologize

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

cad otm though

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

the multi-tracked vibrato minute of this is so rad & promising

yeah, i've only heard her music casually, but this the first thing that makes me want to hear more.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 10 August 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Have One On Me is most probably my favorite album ever.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 August 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

hoom was my favorite album of 2010 definitely

"in california" makes me instantly cry

hoom was my favorite album of 2010 definitely

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, August 10, 2015 7:35 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

um excuse me it's "whom"

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 10 August 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

HOOM had some amazing highlights but I never listen to the whole thing

Ys is just the right portion of Newsom for me

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

I'll ride for Milk-Eyed Mender all day but let's be honest there's no car on the road that gives better mileage than unicorn jokes

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link

the lyrics to the new song are also great but imo she's a great lyricist and only gets better with each record

so the arrangements could be roughly identical to hoomicorn and there'd still probably be a lot there for me in terms of progression

ok actually never mind "waltz of the 1st lightborne" should have the texture a van der graaf generator song

strange animal!

akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

liking the new track but can't shake the similarity to you and me bess. similar progression and turnaround in the first half

linee, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 05:15 (eight years ago) link

why can't this be a safe space for joanna newsom fandom

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 05:44 (eight years ago) link

huh i thought jc loves chachi was a legit newsom hater, yr troll game is solid.

love the last couple of minutes of this, the multi-tracked vocals, the woodwinds that sound like fripp-y guitar or fripp-y guitar that sounds like woodwinds, v nice

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link

why can't this be a safe space for joanna newsom fandom

― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:44 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah looking back at the HOOM thread and it's seriously bothersome, verging on bullying.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

cmon some signifiers are just inherently ridiculous and should be given no quarter

https://thebabarazzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/tumblr_lpq17wqzl61r03771o1_500.jpg

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

In many cases, people justifiably get shit for spraying troll piss all over a thread whose subject they don't care for. I don't know why there are exceptions.

'Spraying Troll Piss' is a song on the new album, btw, iirc.

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

the list is shrinking daily but there are still things on ilx that it's cool to be a dick about

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

originality of zings is entirely the issue imo, zings are fine but voice-is-like-cats jokes are embarrassing to read

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

YOUR FACE IS EMBARRASSING TO READ!

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

haha, i'm done on this thread, i swear. enjoy your cat lady, you guys! i just had to get that out of my system...

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

(i tried to play the new JN song for my wife last night and she had to leave the room. true love!!!)

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link


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