Nu-Metal re-assesed?

Hey there's a reason the Mars Volta opened for A Perfect Circle on their Thirteenth Step tour.

Tbf all of these trends were punk/hardcore offshoots one way or another - grunge through Melvins/Dinosaur Jr, then the Biohazard/RATM/Clawfinger/Dog Eat Dog era, nu-metal, "postmetal" or post-hardcore, emo, screamo, crunk-core, metalcore, crabcore.

crabcore was my ticket into becoming a complete anglophile indie kid

game over

brad mentioned helmet but to me they are aside from FNM probably the biggest influence on all this stuff, maybe throw in Prong, but a certain post-hardcore, mathy, downtuned hyper precise riffing language that i think you see in most nu-metal

Sometimes I wonder if post-punk guitarists were a bit of an influence on some nu-metal bands.

nu metal bands all seemed to love the cure, depeche mode et al

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUebkluEZng

also lol ross robinson produced the self-titled cure record from 2004

nu metal bands all seemed to love the cure, depeche mode et al

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:19 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I knew about that... I was thinking more of the dissonant side of it, like the stuff Keith Levene was doing in PiL.

I mean, the way that Korn's guitarists sometimes do that thing where it sounds like the buzzing of a hive full of angry bees sounds quite post-punky to me for some reason.

Quite surprised when I found out Robinson had produced Wild Throne (formerly Dog Shredder) and a bunch of other stuff unlike most of his work.

I mean, the way that Korn's guitarists sometimes do that thing where it sounds like the buzzing of a hive full of angry bees sounds quite post-punky to me for some reason.

great observation imo

Seems more likely that comes from Paige Hamilton rather than PIL

and page comes from glenn branca?

woah now, let's leave Glenn Branca out of this please.

it was more Primus (and wacky AmRep bands) than PiL in regards to this sound

Yes Paige Hamilton the leader of wacky Am Rep band Helmet

Helmet, of course, but the connection to Branca is purely coincidental.

but i guess there's that picture on the internet of Fred Durst wearing a Sonic Youth shirt so what the fuck do i know.

first show i ever went to was korn supported by limp bizkit and helmet lol

fred durst has professed his love for joy division, the smiths, sonic youth etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHXdw8WJFJM

my mate kev was at that gig. He came away a helmet fan and went off limp bizkit and borrowed all my helmet cds just before the gig.
xp

I think I saved him

someone sang "Break Stuff" at karaoke last night.

there are pieces of him floating in the Atlantic ocean now

break stuff and nookie are great karaoke songs

"Korn was keeping alive the flame of no wave."
That claim is a steaming platter of freshly squeezed crap.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:05 PM (12 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So did we reasses nu-metal? AFAIK its status is still "really shitty."

and it always will be

I dunno, those first two System Of A Down albums seem to have held up quite well.

yeah I still like spinning those. most of their catalog really tho later stuff was closer to legit metal

I dunno, SOAD to me had a distasteful "Think we're nu-metal? Wait until you hear THIS" element to them which I found repugnant.

I mean, ffs, they're called 'System Of A Down' for christ's sake. Down they go with the rest of them.

lol they were a great band sorry

http://www.nme.com/blogs/festivals-blog/limp-bizkit-in-2015-could-be-tragic-instead-its-a-whole-lot-of-fun

it is happening.

I actually watched this live set on catch up, and it was scary as to how young the crowd were, and how much they knew the songs !

I thought the crowd would be a bunch of grey hairs reliving their nu-metal glory days, but no, the band have clearly connected with a new audience.

oh, and fred was genuinely funny, self deprecating and kind of cool, while the band sounded fucking brilliant.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/may/09/20-years-nu-metal-rap-rock-korn-kerrang

I quickly flipped through Sylvia Massy's book about a year ago and have been meaning to give it more thorough read. There's a part where she describes the proper way to mic a singer who's hanging upside down, referring to something she did with Serj from System Of A Down. There's also this "How To Shoot A Piano" diagram that refers to a gunshot noise used as percussion in Tool's "Disgustipated."

http://i.imgur.com/KKJEXCM.jpg

Never heard of that book before but it sounds fascinating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izePLzAbc40

extremely about this

i could probably go for this if it didnt have the screaming