Most Overrated Act To Get More Than Two Songs On Pitchfork's Best Songs Of The 80s

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They don't usually release the full list, but they used to release the ballots. Do they still do that? Dunno.

Purple Rain is like the most NOT-80s song Prince released in the 80s. Might as well have come from 1970.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:32 (eight years ago) link

The tears for fears record from Donnie Darko is overrated but dudes...everybody wants to rule the world is a 10/10 classic masterpiece

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:35 (eight years ago) link

fuck the pixies

fuck the smiths

fuck rem

and completely fujuuuuuuuuuuck guns n roses I mean seriously gtfo with that complete bullshit

― marcos, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What corny ass challoping bs is this

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link

everybody wants to rule the world is a 10/10 classic masterpiece

^ this

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:36 (eight years ago) link

I mean I don't care about REM and don't listen to the pixies but come on

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

I don't know... in my mind Prince is hard to pin down to a certain decade. Some of his 70's songs sound very 80's and some of the 80's sound like 90's or per example Raspberry Beret could have sounded comfortable next to any song from 1968.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link

The whole purpose of this thread is to show how anti-rockist you are but I gotta be me. Diana Ross solo sux 4eva

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:04 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this has to be the dumbest post in the thread

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link

You know, a lot of people are probably going to listen to Frankie Knuckles' Your Love for the first time and recognize it as the song that AnCo sampled for My Girls

misterjoshua, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:42 (eight years ago) link

I guess we're getting into the weeds here, but Raspberry Beret sounds completely 80s to me run through a flower power filter. 60s pastiche with an eye on 80s charts. It's to the 60s what Groove Is in the Heart is to the 70s.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:43 (eight years ago) link

the song that AnCo sampled for My Girls

I could've gone through the rest of my life happily never having this brought to my attention.

Your Love 4EVA. Death to My Girls!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:44 (eight years ago) link

Lol I like both AnCo and Knuckles songs and never made the connection until now. It's so obvious, how could I have missed it? Is it really a sample? Or did they re-recorded it? It sounds like the same line and melody but the sound isn't quite the same.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link

I'm doing some quick google search and apparently it's not a direct sample and it's not credited. Even the wikipedia page brushes it off as 'the song resembles the frankie knuckles song"

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 05:57 (eight years ago) link

Also it seems like it's not really a Frankie Knuckles song. It's by Jamie Principle and Knuckles just liked to play it and attached his name to it to make it more famous:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Love_(Frankie_Knuckles_song)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:04 (eight years ago) link

oops

misterjoshua, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link

this thread is super informative. like I had no idea the Pixies are a "creepy schtick" band with no personality.

alpine static, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link

Holding up Robert Smith as doing everything right the Pixies are doing wrong is weird. Dude sings so many songs about mouths and parts of mouths. Pixies sing about aliens and three day parties.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link

this thread is super informative. like I had no idea the Pixies are a "creepy schtick" band with no personality.

― alpine static, miércoles 26 de agosto de 2015 7:17 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This comment was also very weird to me but decided to pay no mind. I have never heard anyone associating the Pixies with horror aesthetics nor do I think there's anything particularly creepy about their sound.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:23 (eight years ago) link

Maybe surrealism but not horror.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link

ugh polls ugh bands ugh "one artist one song" ugh ugh but i had to pop in to say "Head Over Heels" is a zillion times waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the cheeseball "Everybody Wants To Run the World"

MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link

Incorrect. Thank you for playing.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:37 (eight years ago) link

I don't like DRoss much, but those singles listed upthread are pretty great.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 06:43 (eight years ago) link

Diana Ross saved my damn life, she's underrated - her '79/'80 stuff just rules imo

TFF has rad keyboard sounds but are one of the most insufferable bands, they have that proggy "here let me explain the world to you chumps" style lyrically. they're essentially Billy Joel with better taste

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 07:01 (eight years ago) link

u2 obviously, but otoh the pixies songs in question don't really make the pixies seem amazing

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 09:09 (eight years ago) link

like, literally every other song they released in the 80s > 'where is my mind'

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 09:11 (eight years ago) link

Also it seems like it's not really a Frankie Knuckles song. It's by Jamie Principle and Knuckles just liked to play it and attached his name to it to make it more famous:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Love_(Frankie_Knuckles_song)

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:04 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats not what this says

just sayin, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link

AnCo did not sample 'Your Love' - three note arpeggios are a pretty common thing.

nashwan, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:29 (eight years ago) link

this thread is odd. not bad, but kind of challop central.

i really like a couple tears for fears songs but this:

they have that proggy "here let me explain the world to you chumps" style lyrically.

― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:01 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is very true and nails something i have sometimes felt in an inchoate way, so thanks for that.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

i don't think i have a problem in theory with some artists owning huge amounts of real estate on this list. i mean i don't really care about this list full stop, so why am i even posting? because school hasn't started yet. new order should not have four songs, but i'd be okay with prince having ten tbh.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link

MJ, too. Janet, for that matter. could have ten and it would seem fair to me, i mean.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link

they have that proggy "here let me explain the world to you chumps" style lyrically.

Hello, Andy Partridge.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

Gonna hop in here as much as possible to say Guns N Roses suck.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

The whole purpose of this thread is to show how anti-rockist you are but I gotta be me. Diana Ross solo sux 4eva

― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:04 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this has to be the dumbest post in the thread

This post makes me feel unsafe. I will not be bullied by you and I will not put up with you mansplaining why I'm wrong to think that Diana Ross sux 4eva.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

That would be a textbook example of mansplaining, I'll grant.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

(In reverse.)

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

I'm just messing around. But I do find it odd how these threads are always an occasion to talk about how much rock music sucks (except the Smiths for some reason, who have more shitty songs than any "great" band).

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

why is it odd?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Smiths suck. There, that's evened things up a tad.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

A lot of rock music sucks. Like The Replacements.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

I think it's a way to fit in with the crowd more than an objective appraisal of the music. Rock music, or music made by white, American (for the most part except U2 is obviously an exception here) males is an easy target.

My intense personal belief that solo Diana Ross sux 4eva will get people angry, but the hatred for U2, the Replacements (who really are just the American Smiths) is welcome.

Obviously this is just my probably uninformed opinion and people like Alfred do not count in it because I've seen from your posts that you listen to everything.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

Diana Ross only because we're limiting to the 80s.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

I think it's a way to fit in with the crowd more than an objective appraisal of the music.

Think harder. Also, read other people's posts:

I mean, I kind of hate Diana Ross and this is STILL The Replacements.

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

You're all welcome to hate the Eagles.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

Axl Rose is a hateful muppet. That is a case of right place right time all-time lucking out and there are way more talented rock and pop and electro (where's the breakdance music?) musicians that get forgotten in lists like this for another yet showing of "Sweet Child of Mine".

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

I think, at this point, I'd like to read more discussion about why, sonically, the Smiths suck or R.E.M. sucks or the Cure suck or the Replacements suck or the Pixies suck. Conversely, after looking at some of the Pitchfork list, I think I'd like to read less discussion of why, sonically, a record like "In the Air Tonight" is great.

timellison, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Diana Ross only because we're limiting to the 80s.

this is garbage

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

Think harder

About what?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

I hate the Smiths but that's more of a case of I hate Morrissey as a person than anything.

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

I like The Smiths but I never listen to them

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

I think it's a way to fit in with the crowd more than an objective appraisal of the music.

this is such an odd binary if you think of it. Either you're taking a cold hard look at which acts are truly meritous, or you're being deceitful to impress others. no room to have a subjective but genuinely felt opinion.

da croupier, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

like, i love the replacements, but to leap to "you're LYING" if someone prefers whitney houston is kinda absurd - if anything THAT suggests an inability to think objectively

da croupier, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link


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