side note: usually when I see youtubes w/ background images of white skinny women in bikinis, I assume it's not for me
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 August 2015 23:07 (eight years ago) link
it's funny how small the gradations can be, cause I totally rock with shit (not necessarily proud of such, mind you):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5wppgR1HH4
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 August 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah don't blame you for that at all, and I often suspect north euros of being the worst virulent racists. None the less and give or take a hamfisted record or three I feel as if playing some of these songs to diverse audiences would work p well given the right conditions
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Sunday, 30 August 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
Just heard Kygo's "Stole The Show" on the radio B-)
― Tim F, Sunday, 30 August 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link
Two songs later it was Felix Jaehn's cover of "Ain't Nobody".
― Tim F, Sunday, 30 August 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
they're pushing this stuff in the states too, kygo's marvin gaye remix is getting spins out here
also i suspect justin timberlake's single moving this direction is indicative of where the market is moving generally
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Sunday, 30 August 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link
*farts*
― WD-40 (mattresslessness), Sunday, 30 August 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link
i def like (much of) the british pop/deep house stuff too rev! i am just confused about what the relationship between that stuff and the topic of this thread is, if there is one -- like is one a subset of the other or no? did they evolve in parallel or one after the other?
they seem to be super similar other than what vocals are used -- is that the main difference? idgi
― dyl, Sunday, 30 August 2015 06:34 (eight years ago) link
― WD-40 (mattresslessness), Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:30 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cool opinion shithead
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Sunday, 30 August 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
huh this is what I've been hearing; "Stole the Show" is currently #2 on the French charts and "Ain't Nobody" #4 and "Lean On" #7. It's been a hot summer.
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 30 August 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
Selena Gomez One Last Time is also totally this stuff, it already has infiltrated everything.
― Siegbran, Sunday, 30 August 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
Beach vibes is played
Lol I was starting to get all eyerolly at this but thinking about it, the ~balearic~ spirit has been migrating inland for the past few years and now it's all tropical rainforests instead of sun and sand... i'm probably totally not otm here but whatever
― brimstead, Sunday, 30 August 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
like i know ronnie & renzo were hot 5 years ago but that vibe seems to have permeated and lingered... anyway offtopic
― brimstead, Sunday, 30 August 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
The tracks Moka posted are cool but they don't fit my idea of tropical house - too housey, not tropically enough. To me it seems genre is defined by slight "carribean-style" syncopation and synth-effects and the melancholy beach vibe Tim F mentioned.
― niels, Monday, 31 August 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
Is the mix that Siegbran posted representative?
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 August 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
eh not really. The borders of this are of course very porous so you see a lot of mixes with slight tropical house vibes interspersed within a more amorphous "chill house" / "deep house" setting.
Still think Matoma (who's something of a tropical house purist) is the best starting point.
This 17 minute mix of his own tunes he did is kinda hilarious, albeit jarring;
https://soundcloud.com/matoma-official/one-year-one-love
Thomas Jack also has a 'Tropical House' DJ mix series featuring a lot of the key players but, again, most of the practitioners are a bit too subtle to play like an entire hour of tropical in a row (which is a shame almost, the thing that really struck me in Bali is how the more of the same style that's playing the more involving it is).
― Tim F, Monday, 31 August 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
One way to think about this style is if Afrojack circa 2010 had "gone balearic". Anything that's actually balearic/deep is perhaps a bit too nuanced/tasteful to capture it.
― Tim F, Monday, 31 August 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-QR5_58xPk
― 1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
this music gives me bad feelings
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 31 August 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link
it will make you renounce everything you believed in
― 1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link
ha well i didn't mean Iasos.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 31 August 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
stay away from Iasos, i repeat, stay away from Iasos!
― 1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
this stuff is so hit or miss!! help me find more hits
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:47 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i meant bieber, lol
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 01:55 (eight years ago) link
this is my favorite of the (non rap) examples bc it violates all rules of tastefulness & is still a banger imho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RCx712GKqU
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
haha, "John Mayer - Free Fallin' (Matoma & Nelsaan Tropical Mojito Remix)" - truly you can't make this stuff up...
cool song!
― niels, Monday, 14 September 2015 08:23 (eight years ago) link
I feel like this stuff was engineered and optimized just for Spotify playlists - Ultimate Chill Out Beach Party, Summer Vibes Relax.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 14 September 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link
Matoma is just some kind of sunset vibe mining algorithm, right?
― MikoMcha, Monday, 14 September 2015 09:42 (eight years ago) link
So pleased you're on board with Matoma, Miko!
― Tim F, Monday, 14 September 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link
Tim F & i were talking about exactly that re spotify lifestyle playlists
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
lol played a lot of this stuff around pool parties where people were smoking a lot of w33d. they seemed to think it was OTM
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 14 September 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
its crazy how bad the main purveyors of this sound are at djing it... i tried the kygo and felix jaehn mixes w/ thomas jack on soundcloud and i had to turn them off w/in two songs
total wet blanket house
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link
the next step of course is 8 min long instrumental versions of afropop records obv
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link
ooh gimme that
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't really feeling that Matoma mix although it had its moments. This thread title piqued my interest because it got close to my long-held non-existent fantasy genre that melds the syncopated, socafied end of post-UK funky dance music with the bouncier end of nu-Balearic, but then there's quite a bit of afropop tilting in that direction right now as it is.
― Matt DC, Monday, 14 September 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
i like that this stuff is sort of tasteless but i also don't
none of the matoma remixes touch classixx/shwayze edit to me
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
― Matt DC, Monday, September 14, 2015 1:51 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its def just a strain of the broader technical genre of 'tropical house' that's worth listening to & fantasy genre is totally a part of its appeal...tim's right that matoma as a central figure makes better sense than anyone else, but even w/ him there's a few records which just don't work (any eminem remixes for example)...you def have to dig through crap to find the worthwhile shit but as DJ tools the best stuff is great as a kind of genre nexus imo
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
the matoma mix is just a bunch of his own remixes lined up right? that's obv not the idea way to experience this stuff ... I'm more seeing these as DJ tools where individual songs work & some don't but they're not afraid of incorporating rap which has been an issue w/ balearic zone of fruitless disintegration since the mid 00s revival
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
what is fruitless disintegration
― the late great, Monday, 14 September 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
if only coyote records had rapping on them
― brimstead, Monday, 14 September 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
― the late great, Monday, September 14, 2015 2:11 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
an attempt to joke on 'fruitless intensification' but more implying castles made of sand falling in the sea eventually due to diminishing audience interest the further you go into the nu balearic essence
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, 14 September 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
Not to be confused with Toadal Wet Sprocket House.
― MarkoP, Monday, 14 September 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
as jordan noted on uk dance thread this song has a great & shameless tropical vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozx898ADTxM
― niels, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
GAH STOP WITH THAT SONG IT IS THE WORST
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
haha it's certainly the popularest, #1 in uk last week?
even though it's a bit fast&hard/housey compared to other t house tracks, it has a lot of core elements imo - throwback acapella, naive aesthetics, steel drum synth breakdown, joyous melancholy
― niels, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:36 (eight years ago) link
it is distilled shit
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 09:06 (eight years ago) link
the logical shit endpoint of the already shit "wish you were mine" by philip george
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link
Don't see that at all - "wish you were min" has a kind of minor key piano riff that's much more late 90s techno (I think?), no tropical vibe
they both xploit 70s acapella's though (but the MJ one is so much better than the weirdly pitched Stevie one)
― niels, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 11:25 (eight years ago) link
that's what i mean by "logical" - the sigala track is angled specifically to capitalize on summer 2015. i just don't see any creativity, originality, bangin-ness or guilty pleasureness here at all.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link
well, I guess it is kind of vapid - and not sure I'm a fan
but I thought it worth posting since it's a smash belonging in this thread, in that respect completely agree it's "logical"
― niels, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:37 (eight years ago) link
(Kygo isn’t familiar with the term Balearic, the eclectic, slower D.J. style of late-1980s Ibiza that is tropical house’s clearest dance-music antecedent.)
:-)
from http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/arts/music/kygodelivers-dance-beats-with-a-side-order-of-pan-flute.html
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:33 (eight years ago) link
Matos!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:34 (eight years ago) link
The original balearic scene was much smaller en less known than the Ibiza chillout/downtempo scene of the 90s and 00s, which is what Kygo is the actual successor to.
Compilations like this:http://www.fantazia.org.uk/Mailorder/images/HedKandi_BeachHouse2000_2CD.jpg
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 07:37 (eight years ago) link
into this even tho the title is a van halen false flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJb6uypm5s
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 02:27 (eight years ago) link
tropical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MwltueD5ak
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link
So has anyone actually listened to the kygo album yet?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 16 May 2016 08:12 (seven years ago) link
5 tracks in sounds a lot like what you'd expect
― niels, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link
So many steel drums
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTYOkcRH220
every now and again injecting a little life into the formula appears to involve exhuming a deceased icon huh
― dyl, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Anyone heard the new I think album “Tropical House Cruises to Jamaica “ ?
Saw a mention on twitter
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
Oops , I see that the 2020 collector’s edition of that 2017/2018 album is still getting attention in some circles
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link