looks like basically the same packaging style as the quine tapes?
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
Not quite as good... fuck it though, it could come wrapped in toilet paper and I wouldn't care.
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
One month to go.
― hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
I'm not a young man anymore.
― Dinkytown Strutters' Ball (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
Annnnd fuller details
http://www.velvetundergroundmusic.com/the-complete-matrix-tapes-to-be-released-november-20th/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
ha, finally...pretty crazy that (apparently) that first "waiting for the man" is the same lonnnnnng one from the quine tapes! will be so great to hear that in perfect quality.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
is there a really long german word that describes the mixed feelings one feels when learning that david fricke has written the liner notes?
― 1997 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
A handful of these were also previously released as bonus tracks on the original 2-volume CD issue of Live 1969 (the shorter "What Goes On," for one).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
schadenfricken
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
xp frickenzfraude is the word you're looking for, karl. kind of feel like the guy has written enough VU liner notes for one lifetime. give someone else a chance, dave!
weird that the tracklisting claims that one of the "waiting for the man"s was previously released on live 1969, which I don't think is true -- the one on Live 69 is definitely the one that opens the end of cole avenue bootleg (recorded in dallas).
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
xp Yeah, that packaging looks kind of basic? I'd be much more likely to shell out for this thing if it was a bit more deluxe. I'm a sucker for facsimile handbills, art prints, that kind of thing.
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
xp kinda depressing that they can't get things like that right after 45 years
yeah that long slow "Waiting" is the best
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat)
xp frickenzfraude is the word you're looking for, karl.
― tylerw
in the interest of compromise, let's go with...frickenzfricken
― 1997 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
really, really excited to hear these
― 1997 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
exactly. who cares what the packaging is like
― a (waterface), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
i mean the sister ray alone is godhead
― a (waterface), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i mean any complaints aside, this is my favorite music ever.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
I think it's only the case with one track, but it's nice of them to remind us, "That's right. This will be the THIRD time you've bought this song."
ROCK AND ROLL (6.58) + / ** / ***
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
fourth! live 69, quine, VU deluxe and now this ... man, that performance is the best though. holy crap.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
d'oh, yep, fourth. And yeah, that's one of the highlights of the 1969 stuff, easily. And there's a whole other song lurking in that high-register riff at the end!
And if the sound on the VU deluxe is anything to go by, this should be a pretty wonderful experience.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link
yeah, even w/ the stuff that already showed up on Live 69, will be great to have them cleaned up from the original tapes... that "ocean"! that "new age"!
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
aaaaagh that "Ocean" is seriously one of my favorite things in their (or anyone's) oeuvre.
I was hoping there was an even longer "What Goes On" hiding somewhere, because that thing could go on forever.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
yeah, seems like the longest it ever got was that hilltop concert ... 11 minutes or so. kind of a mess towards the end, but i love it. speaking of which, here's what i'm listening to this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ukH9mHkfrw
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link
OK y'all are getting me really excited abt this
I kind of want to sell that ridiculous (and now superfluous) 6CD version of the 3rd album that I was suckered into buying :(
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
That 'groovy' long version of "White Light", I can just see the audience actually dancing in mme.
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link
xpost that was so worth it, if only for the definitive mix of "I can't stand it"
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
nice 'tube, tylerw! what goes on is my very favorite velvets song.
― 1997 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
― sleeve, Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:11 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ha, yeah, I had a hunch they'd put out a Matrix box when the 3rd album box came out. And I'm not too keen on the "Did I ever tell you kids about the '60s? Because this is how we used to mix things then!" remixes of the VU songs on that box.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link
some of the mixes are ok (the aforementioned "i can't stand it"), some are kinda wonky (the "ride into the sun" seems incorporate mistakes that would be better mixed out). but yeah i bought it for the matrix stuff, which is now redundant. at least this matrix set isn't ridiculously overpriced or anything.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
It is in the UK.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
i usually do not gaf about archival releases, but I'm inordinately psyched about this
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
Me tooIt's like guaranteed good times in a box
― La Lechera, Thursday, 1 October 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
From a friend on FB:
Listening to an advance of the upcoming Velvet Underground box set THE COMPLETE MATRIX TAPES; I'm only three tracks in and I'm already sunk deep into VU bliss. This is the best sounding live stuff from the band I've ever heard; great performances and the clarity is delicious.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 October 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
9 minute version of What Goes On on the first disc is unreal.
― lamonti, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link
can't wait to hear this
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
this shit better not be limited edition
― brimstead, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
i don't think it is. 9-minute what goes on is the same performance from Live 1969, right?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
That's what I was assuming... re What Goes On
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
yeah. but lamonti is correct, it is unreal.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
Live 1969 version already was, hard to believe it can be improved on.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Hcybitpaowynaaa.jpg
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
xp this has better sound iirc?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
yeah, this'll be from the original tapes, so it'll be cleaned up for sure.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
Is clean always better though... ignore me, I'm quibbling.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
yeah i don't know! Live 1969 might be my fave album ever, so I'm OK with the sound, imperfect as it is. but i don't mind hearing this newly transferred stuff either.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
I don'mind either. That is what is known as understatement.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
I used to own the first European CD version of Live 1969 (as two discs) and it sounded fucking terrible, and I'm not any kind of audiophile. I think later issues on CD were better, but I can't believe that this new set won't be a massive improvement, sonically speaking.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
yeah the matrix stuff on the 3rd album deluxe sounds fucking fantastic.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link
Vinyl sounded much better fwiw (xp)
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah definitely, I also used to own the double vinyl with that terrible airbrush painted cover, sound was fine for listening and dancing to What Goes On - very 'present' in the room feeling - but now that I'm old and don't dance anymore I'm in the mood for a more pristine VU sound.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
it is some of the best music
― marcos, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link
otm
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
thx for bump, will listen to this later today
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
also listen to "sweet sister ray" which is turning 50 years old this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link