2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees POLL

I can't imagine The Smiths ever getting in, so to see someone proclaim them as a lock is kind of ridiculous.

either janet or chaka

So does Roxy ever get in or what?

Thin Lizzy

oh nm

xxxp I dunno, I just picked the artists that mean the least to me and assumed they'd be locks

Do you think you've made the right decision this time?

So does Roxy ever get in or what?

― Iago Galdston

oh god no

I have a better chance.

Voting for the one that was so good a world-dominating genre was spawned by the urge to listen to them on indefinite loop.

i imagine dave marsh will do his best to keep the smiths from making it

That would be nice.

write-in vote for Blue Oyster Cult

Eric's heard of The Smiths?

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Deep Purple

the JBs

JBs def

I mean I like a lot of the acts on here, but at least 5 of 'em owe their existence to the JBs rhythm section

I would be cool with any of these getting in except Chicago, but even they'd be a better pick than green day or RHCP.

Voted for The Cars. Crazy to me that they aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame already considering the staying power of their first album on Rock radio

A typical bullshit list. The Hall caters to baby boomers, and will pick the artists that will generate the most revenue from said demographic.

Seymous Stein is friends with Morrissey, so this could be their year. It WOULD be interesting to see Rourke, Joyce and Marr play with some guest vocalists (Sandie Shaw?)

When does Wire get in?

Were we voting for our favourite or the one most likely to get in? I voted for Yes, assuming the former. If it's the latter, The Cars.

Voted for Yes. Would be happy to see the Cars, Deep Purple, or the J.B.'s get in. (I don't like Chic or the Smiths, and there are only four really good songs on Straight Outta Compton.)

Is it like a requirement now for them to pick one real turd (or two) of an FM act among the nominees each year? I mean, voters rightly said "Hell no" to Bon Jovi a couple years ago, but Kiss actually made it in. Don't know what that says about Chicago's chances, but I mean, barf.

Fuck Chic

Hey fuck you man

I mean: No, fuck YOU.

Really though, "Disco Sucks" was 36 years ago, though we may yet see a "Death to EDM" groundswell

i honestly don't believe you people who dislike The Smiths are from the '80s

Well, my local TV news - I know, so inane - just blurbed Janet Jackson getting nominated. Ugh. I voted Cheap Trick, but damn it's such a crime Chic, Deep Purple, Spinners aren't in already.

Voted in this poll for Los Lobos del Este de Los Angeles (y Vashon Island)

Voted officially for Chic and the JB's as well

No way should Steve Miller get in. He's just a non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Well, my local TV news - I know, so inane - just blurbed Janet Jackson getting nominated. Ugh.

Someone remind me again how to killfile?

No way should Steve Miller get in. He's just a non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Sorry-ass cat didn't have his shit going for him.

steve miller will definitely get in at some point, people fucking love this dork

Only one of these bands currently has one of my college friends in it, so that's what I'm voting.

They should get Paul Simon to induct Los Lobos.

The Cars are one of my favorite bands ever, so them. I love Chic for all the obvious reasons, but their songs consistently suffer from lazy writing in the verses.

Good round table discussion with Ryan Gibbs, Jon Winkler, Matt Rice, Kevin Montes & Joey Daniewicz on the 2015 nominees

http://theyoungfolks.com/music/tyf-discusses-the-2016-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/65110.

Jon Winkler: Despite disco not being rock and roll, I’ll make Chic an exception.

Matt Rice: Chic is the group I’m most hoping gets in, and disco is totally rock and roll.

Ryan Gibbs: This is their record-tying 10th nomination. Only other artist to get that many nominations was Solomon Burke, and he got in there. It is stupid that they’re not in yet. And agreed, disco come out of funk and r&b. How is it not rock?

Matt: What’s more rock and roll than pissing off white guys so much they crush a bunch of your records?

Nice.

Ryan: First off alphabetically, we have The Cars.
Kevin: I’ve honestly never heard any of their music.

Click.

ffs, Solomon Burke was nominated 10 times before he got in?!

Also, still no Link Wray.

Deep Purple, Yes, Cheap Trick, The Smiths, The J.B.'s. I like The Cars but Cheap Trick beats 'em out. I like most of the artists, and even Chicago had some good jams on their first few albums. But yeah, would rather they not win one of the slots. Be sure to vote here, as your vote can actually count!

http://rockhall.com/voting/2016-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-vote/

The "popular vote" only counts for one of the 600 ballots, but it's better than nothing, and I think other voters pay attention to it, so it's influence goes beyond the one vote. For example, Rush and Kiss made it in the last few years, which would have seemed very unlikely otherwise. Especially Kiss, lol. Not that I'm complaining -- even though 80% of their songs are turds, they add some colorful, populist fun to the Hall.

Competition is fierce, yesterday Chicago was leading with 17.06% over Yes' 16.58% and Deep Purple 16.42%. Then last night I saw that Janet Jackson leapt to the lead with 28% and a couple million votes. Now Chicago is back in the lead with 18% and 4.7 million votes! Yes has 4.6 mil, The Cars 4.6, Deep Purple 4.6, Steve Miller 4.5.

Yes and Deep Purple should definitely have a shot. I found it interesting that back in 2004, Traffic were inducted. I love the band and their psych prog mix, but didn't think they were all that popular. Would Free, Procol Harum, King Crimson, Family, Spooky Tooth, and Arthur Brown have a shot? Perhaps Free and Procol, but the rest probably not. And if the Kiss army can make it happen, the large fanbases behind Judas Priest and Iron Maiden should also be able to make an impact.

I voted for Cars, Chic, Cheap Trick, Janet and Los Lobos.

Hell, Weezer probably wouldn’t have a career without them

this is the most convincing reason to not vote for the Cars

Deep Purple, Yes, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest should already be in the damn thing.

The JB's should have gotten to go in with James Brown.

Screw that knick knack shop anyway.

tbf, Weezer's debut sounds really great and Ocasek produced it.

The Cars getting that many votes
LOL

They like the nite-life babeh

Interestingly, The Smiths are second to last in the HOF popular vote, at 0.28% (453,639 votes) over Los Lobos, just behind Nine Inch Nails & N.W.A. It's really strange to see them that low -- I thought everyone revered them at least on the level of The Cure, New Order & R.E.M. Has the lack of a reunion and Morrissey's prickliness hurt their chances?

popular vote > ILM vote

not american and sold almost no records here, nobody but college saddos ever knew who they were. wiki reports that their peak of success was strangeways hitting #55 on the albums chart. "how soon is now" at #36 on the US Dance chart. despite a great rep with the kind of people who become music critics, they are effectively nobodies.

yeah Smiths are v much a cult thing in the US

Definitely not on par with REM

yeah that the smiths are even nominated (esp w/ dave marsh on the nominating committee) is kinda amazing. consider that roxy music and t rex have never been nominated.

their cult was just really starting to reach that size where mtv/radio might take notice when they broke up, i'm not sure they could've broke as big as the cure or depeche mode (those bands just wanted it more) but i wouldn't rule it out. they could have been as big as new order at least. '80's blocks on '90's alt radio were kind of revisionist so that 'how soon is now' and 'girlfriend in a coma' have a profile.

Well, in the context of 1986-87, R.E.M. weren't selling that much more at the time, or storming any charts either. The Queen Is Dead got reviews in pretty mainstream publications, and by that point most everyone I knew in high school knew them, and that was in a lame small city in Iowa. I think their popularity was comparable to The Cure, R.E.M., New Order and Depeche Mode, but they broke up before they could take advantage of the whole alt rock thing getting big on mainstream radio stations a couple years later. But hard to know for sure.

REM? Yes they were.

REM hitting top forty album chart from the start, each album outselling the other. By 1986 LET shipped gold. Document platinum and top ten.

LET = LRP.

every rem album went at least gold on release, they were runnerup to thriller in pnj w/ their debut album and every album after finished pretty high in the pnj (contrast w/ how the smiths did), and 'fall on me' and 'superman' crossed over to aor.

rem made the cover of rolling stone w/ the hed 'america's best rnr band' in 87. they'd made a handful of spin and musician covers by then. the smiths never got a full feature in rolling stone, no mainstream mag covers either, moz doesn't get the cover of spin until viva hate.

Also, R.E.M. were regularly selling out 6,000-10,000-seat college basketball arenas in '86-'87, while the Smiths rarely played halls that big in the US (usually venues half that size).

The Smiths didn't get their three gold albums until they'd broken up.

On the other hand, I distinctly remember an article on the Smiths in People magazine at one point. Don't remember when, but it existed - I saw it.

also "the one i love" was a top ten hit (their first of four), a feat the cure managed only with "lovesong" and depeche with "enjoy the silence," both later. really no comparison, and no surprise high school kids in iowa knew who they were.

It was partly thanks to KUNI from University of Northern Iowa, which had transmitters all over the state, at least on the Eastern half. I'm not sure if other states lacking decent sized cities had something like that in the 80s or not. I did see R.E.M. in a 6,000-10,000 seat arena in '87, and just assumed The Smiths could have played the same had they toured that year instead of breaking up.

Balls is likely right for the most part though. Here's their '86 tour -- not sure of the size of all the places. Anyone get to see 'em?

Jul 30 - London (Canada), Centennial Hall
Jul 31 - Toronto (Canada), Kingswood Music Theatre
Aug 2 - Ottawa (Canada), Capital Congress Center
Aug 3 - Montreal (Canada), Centre Sportif de l'U. de Montréal
Aug 5 - Mansfield (MA), Great Woods Performing Arts Center
Aug 6 - New York (NY), Pier 84
Aug 8 - Washington (DC), Smith Center
Aug 11 - Cleveland (OH), Music Hall
Aug 12 - Pittsburgh (PA), Fulton Theater
Aug 14 - Detroit (MI), Fox Theater
Aug 15 - Chicago (IL), Aragon Ballroom
Aug 16 - Milwaukee (WI), Performing Arts Center
Aug 22 - Santa Barbara (CA), Arlington Theater
Aug 23 - Berkeley (CA), Greek Theater
Aug 25 - Los Angeles (CA), Universal Amphitheater
Aug 26 - Los Angeles (CA), Universal Amphitheater
Aug 28 - Laguna Hills (CA), Irvine Meadows
Aug 29 - San Diego (CA), Open Air Theater
Aug 31 - Phoenix (AZ), Mesa Amphitheater
Sep 3 - Boulder (CO), Events Center
Sep 5 - Houston (TX), Cullen Auditorium
Sep 6 - Dallas (TX), Bronco Bowl
Sep 8 - New Orleans (LO), McAlister Auditorium
Sep 10 - St. Petersburg (FL), Bayfront Arena

Can't believe I'm saying this--I used to make fun of the Smiths endlessly--but I was at that Toronto show. As George Costanza said: "Elaine, I once told a woman that I coined the phrase, 'Pardon my French.'"

I think that's from "Franky, Mr. Shankly."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfkPC6kXIAAuR3W.jpg

Spoken like a true non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Huh?. I think he made some good points, no matter what you think of him and his music.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/arts/music/after-his-induction-steve-miller-rips-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

used his onstage acceptance speech to tactfully allude to the Rock Hall’s opaque nomination process and poor track record on inducting women.

Backstage, he unleashed more of his feelings.

No, he definitely made good points; I just can't resist quoting Miles' autobio whenever Steve Miller is mentioned.

Oh...

Made the mistake of reading comments on the Gene Simmons comments on rap/NWA response at the HOF induction.

I can't believe there are still so many shitty people actively angry about the existence of rap.

So I guess Pearl Jam, Tupac, Journey, Steppenwolf, Bad Brains, Depeche Mode, ELO, Jane's Addiction and Joan Baez are this year's first timers added to the stand-by list? Awesome. Someone should devise a formula that determines the exact year in the future when every single act will have been admitted.

when jann wenner dies they'll team up with the lds and do a mass induction/baptism of everyone not yet in the hall

Smashing Pumpkins snubbed again

Will BOC ever get in?

Well, Twoism is from 95, so there's four years until they're eligible. Who knows?

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

Blue Oyster Cult getting snubbed is beyond stupid. Far better than so many bands in the HoF. Thing that's so odd to me is that they aren't like, for example, Can or some band like that who should be in but aren't that well known in mainstream circles, BOC has a handful of deathless FM classic rock hits that still get played to this day.

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

― Iago Galdston, 18. oktober 2016 21:24 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aw, thansk!

I'm just shocked that Dave Krusen and Matt Cameron are the only 2 Pearl Jam drummers deemed eligible for inclusion. They didn't play on their best albums!

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea. why isn't my favorite band in it?

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea.why isn't my favorite band in it?

Yeah! And the reason the best band isn't in it is because Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished is from 2000.

^ one of the best posts i've ever read on ilx