2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees POLL

I mean: No, fuck YOU.

Really though, "Disco Sucks" was 36 years ago, though we may yet see a "Death to EDM" groundswell

i honestly don't believe you people who dislike The Smiths are from the '80s

Well, my local TV news - I know, so inane - just blurbed Janet Jackson getting nominated. Ugh. I voted Cheap Trick, but damn it's such a crime Chic, Deep Purple, Spinners aren't in already.

Voted in this poll for Los Lobos del Este de Los Angeles (y Vashon Island)

Voted officially for Chic and the JB's as well

No way should Steve Miller get in. He's just a non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Well, my local TV news - I know, so inane - just blurbed Janet Jackson getting nominated. Ugh.

Someone remind me again how to killfile?

No way should Steve Miller get in. He's just a non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Sorry-ass cat didn't have his shit going for him.

steve miller will definitely get in at some point, people fucking love this dork

Only one of these bands currently has one of my college friends in it, so that's what I'm voting.

They should get Paul Simon to induct Los Lobos.

The Cars are one of my favorite bands ever, so them. I love Chic for all the obvious reasons, but their songs consistently suffer from lazy writing in the verses.

Good round table discussion with Ryan Gibbs, Jon Winkler, Matt Rice, Kevin Montes & Joey Daniewicz on the 2015 nominees

http://theyoungfolks.com/music/tyf-discusses-the-2016-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/65110.

Jon Winkler: Despite disco not being rock and roll, I’ll make Chic an exception.

Matt Rice: Chic is the group I’m most hoping gets in, and disco is totally rock and roll.

Ryan Gibbs: This is their record-tying 10th nomination. Only other artist to get that many nominations was Solomon Burke, and he got in there. It is stupid that they’re not in yet. And agreed, disco come out of funk and r&b. How is it not rock?

Matt: What’s more rock and roll than pissing off white guys so much they crush a bunch of your records?

Nice.

Ryan: First off alphabetically, we have The Cars.
Kevin: I’ve honestly never heard any of their music.

Click.

ffs, Solomon Burke was nominated 10 times before he got in?!

Also, still no Link Wray.

Deep Purple, Yes, Cheap Trick, The Smiths, The J.B.'s. I like The Cars but Cheap Trick beats 'em out. I like most of the artists, and even Chicago had some good jams on their first few albums. But yeah, would rather they not win one of the slots. Be sure to vote here, as your vote can actually count!

http://rockhall.com/voting/2016-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-vote/

The "popular vote" only counts for one of the 600 ballots, but it's better than nothing, and I think other voters pay attention to it, so it's influence goes beyond the one vote. For example, Rush and Kiss made it in the last few years, which would have seemed very unlikely otherwise. Especially Kiss, lol. Not that I'm complaining -- even though 80% of their songs are turds, they add some colorful, populist fun to the Hall.

Competition is fierce, yesterday Chicago was leading with 17.06% over Yes' 16.58% and Deep Purple 16.42%. Then last night I saw that Janet Jackson leapt to the lead with 28% and a couple million votes. Now Chicago is back in the lead with 18% and 4.7 million votes! Yes has 4.6 mil, The Cars 4.6, Deep Purple 4.6, Steve Miller 4.5.

Yes and Deep Purple should definitely have a shot. I found it interesting that back in 2004, Traffic were inducted. I love the band and their psych prog mix, but didn't think they were all that popular. Would Free, Procol Harum, King Crimson, Family, Spooky Tooth, and Arthur Brown have a shot? Perhaps Free and Procol, but the rest probably not. And if the Kiss army can make it happen, the large fanbases behind Judas Priest and Iron Maiden should also be able to make an impact.

I voted for Cars, Chic, Cheap Trick, Janet and Los Lobos.

Hell, Weezer probably wouldn’t have a career without them

this is the most convincing reason to not vote for the Cars

Deep Purple, Yes, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest should already be in the damn thing.

The JB's should have gotten to go in with James Brown.

Screw that knick knack shop anyway.

tbf, Weezer's debut sounds really great and Ocasek produced it.

Chic should already be in too...

In my dream world, the Dance Music Hall of Fame didn't fold after the second year, and everyone at this point long ago stopped caring about the RnR HoF and were now planning trips around visiting the dance one's HQ in the reconstructed Loft.

Who knows why anyone gets in? I remember a discussion I had the year George Harrison was inducted as a solo artist about whether or not he deserved the honor. Even however many years later, I'm still on the fence. Last year, though, RINGO got in as a solo artist. Why not just induct any musician who's ever put out a record if the bar is that fucking low?

I naively thought Ornette Coleman had an outside chance at being nominated this year (possibly in the "early influence" category).

Ringo didn't get in as a solo artist; his induction category was the "Award for Musical Excellence":

This award honors musicians, songwriters and producers who have spent their life creating important and memorable music. Their originality, impact and influence have changed the course of music history. These artists have achieved the highest level of distinction that transcends time.

John, Paul, and George got in as Performers; Ringo got in for his drumming (deservedly so), but not for his solo catalog.

xp

Ringo's solo catalog contains some jams, saddened by all this anti-Ringo sentiment

Ryan: First off alphabetically, we have The Cars.
Kevin: I’ve honestly never heard any of their music.

Click.

― campreverb

I know a couple of the kids – they're young!

Ringo got in for his drumming (deservedly so), but not for his solo catalog.

Ah, okay. That makes me feel slightly better.

Ringo's solo catalog contains some jams

No argument there, but he's not HoF-level good (whatever that means).

Yeah, it's obviously a silly exercise in the sense of, who cares what the actual Hall of Fame means, but the Hall of Fames in our heads presumably have some kinda standards tougher than "did indeed cut a number of fine tracks and even some hits sometime in the 1970s." And I speak as a Ringo admirer.

there are only four really good songs on Straight Outta Compton

The first three + which other?

I'll give 'em "Express Yourself."

"did indeed cut a number of fine tracks and even some hits sometime in the 1970s."

Not just "some" hits, but by 1975 he'd had as many top 10 hits in the US as Paul, and more than John and George combined.

the Hall of Fames in our heads presumably have some kinda standards tougher than "did indeed cut a number of fine tracks and even some hits sometime in the 1970s."

idk, I think the Hall of Fames in my head is a bit more loosey goosey, maybe

I know a couple of the kids – they're young!

out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct.

I know a couple of the kids – they're young!

yet they apparently know the Los Lobos catalogue front to back!

fwiw "La Bamba" is the only Los Lobos song I've ever heard

sucks to be you

yeah i mean ringo had some good hits! No doubt! I like him! I like his stuff! just thinking that at a certain point, the hypothetical list of Hall of Famers beomes congruent with the list of basically everybody who had and kept a record deal. Nice to honor them all but it sort of undermines the idea of a Hall of Fame.

The Eagles were the first real "waitwaitwait...NO" band to be inducted.

As their $100 tickets ushered in the era of bullshit prices for shows, so it was that their induction into the HoF led to a sustained period of casual shrugging by the nominating committee.

yet they apparently know the Los Lobos catalogue front to back!

― welltris (crüt), Friday, October 9, 2015 1:

NPR parents, dude.

^ haunting

To qualify for the HoF in my head, an artist has to meet at least two of these three benchmarks: sustained success, influence and innovation.

If you're innovative and influential but have done shit numbers sales-wise, cool. You might get in. If you've been massively popular, but you're, say, Michael Bolton and completely uninfluential and not in the least bit innovative, you likely won't. However, I won't feel too badly for you, because you sleep on a pile of money.

i know a couple of the kids – they're young!

out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct.

Ha ha. I left a comment, but they tend to get deleted so,

Re yr Deep Purple comments: "I just don’t know what separates them from some of the other 70s rock giants that aren’t in yet....Outside of your first lessons and the denizens of your local Guitar Center, do they really seem worthy of any Hall of Fame?"

What separates Deep Purple is the fact that they are HUGELY influential in the development of metal, just after Black Sabbath and more so than Led Zep. In the early 70s they were massively popular, outselling Sabbath, who did quite well, by about a factor of six. In Rock (1970) is quintessential proto-metal sandwiched between the first two Sabbath albums, and just a timeless hard rock album, as is Machine Head. Without Deep Purple there would have been no Judas Priest, no Iron Maiden, and while heavy metal would exist thanks to Sabbath, it wouldn't be what it is today. They are significantly more influential than Motorhead (who are also great and deserve an eventual nom). Plenty of other great but less influential bands have been inducted in the past. A good example is Traffic, who navigated the path between psych and prog with style. Of course Deep Purple belong in the Hall. They are worthy, and you are not.

All right, Phil, I'll bite: what do you dislike about Chic?

Just don't like the songs. I like the idea of Chic - small-group disco-funk - but the execution just doesn't do it for me. I've tried; I've got this 2CD best-of around here somewhere, but I never, ever feel like listening to it.

nine inch nails, cuz it'd be really funny to watch someone win a lifetime achievement award and then go sing a nine inch nails song right after.

Not as funny as when it was the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

no it will be way funnier

So I guess Pearl Jam, Tupac, Journey, Steppenwolf, Bad Brains, Depeche Mode, ELO, Jane's Addiction and Joan Baez are this year's first timers added to the stand-by list? Awesome. Someone should devise a formula that determines the exact year in the future when every single act will have been admitted.

when jann wenner dies they'll team up with the lds and do a mass induction/baptism of everyone not yet in the hall

Smashing Pumpkins snubbed again

Will BOC ever get in?

Well, Twoism is from 95, so there's four years until they're eligible. Who knows?

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

Blue Oyster Cult getting snubbed is beyond stupid. Far better than so many bands in the HoF. Thing that's so odd to me is that they aren't like, for example, Can or some band like that who should be in but aren't that well known in mainstream circles, BOC has a handful of deathless FM classic rock hits that still get played to this day.

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

― Iago Galdston, 18. oktober 2016 21:24 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aw, thansk!

I'm just shocked that Dave Krusen and Matt Cameron are the only 2 Pearl Jam drummers deemed eligible for inclusion. They didn't play on their best albums!

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea. why isn't my favorite band in it?

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea.why isn't my favorite band in it?

Yeah! And the reason the best band isn't in it is because Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished is from 2000.

^ one of the best posts i've ever read on ilx