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Am I the only one who has zero interest in Morgan?

Nope.

trishyb, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 06:06 (eight years ago) link

I'm at walker stalker con if anyone there right now wants to meet and say hi

The Once-ler, Saturday, 31 October 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

The actor who plays Enid said JSS means just survive somehow. It was written on the note Carl found at the end of the episode.

The Once-ler, Sunday, 1 November 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

She also said that she is going as a wolf for halloween

The Once-ler, Sunday, 1 November 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

So this week is just going to be all old boring Morgan backstory shit? Wgaf.

calstars, Sunday, 1 November 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

was legit more upset at tabitha the goat's death than at any human character's to date

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

hah

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

(i was all prepared to be shocked and upset about glenn but 1) he hasn't been interesting for several seasons, 2) i've long dreaded either him or maggie dying because you know the entire next season will consist of the other moping endlessly - oh god maggie's going to spend 8484422 episodes looking for him isn't she, 3) then i read that it might have been a fake-out and he might still be alive which is unbelievably annoying on several levels)

why does no one ever remember to cover themselves in walker guts

i know the alexandrians are meant to be weak but their incompetence is parodic and implausible at this point, poor michonne having to babysit them

magical aikido teacher's death was extremely annoying, nothing about that situation needed him to get bit when he's perfectly capable of taking the zombie out

on which subject, his/morgan's dogmatic pacifism is less convincing as a way of life when they have v specialist skills that enable them to overpower opponents without killing them

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

(i didn't hate the morgan backstory episode but maaaaan was that ever carried by two fine actors doing as good a job as they could with a hackneyed, hokey arc. YES I GET IT MORGAN USED TO BE ~WOLF-LIKE it doesn't mean he shouldn't have put his big pacifist stick through the wolf's skull already)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

on which subject, his/morgan's dogmatic pacifism is less convincing as a way of life when they have v specialist skills that enable them to overpower opponents without killing them

Yes!

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

That was the weakest death scene ever. Ninja dudes overpowered by one fucking walker.

Pretty sure if my wife wasn't into this, I wouldn't be watching. So relentlessly cynical. WE GET IT!

schwantz, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

Was it really about pacifism so much as just not killing? I don't know if all that stuff is true to Aikido but it's definitely a martial art that involves hitting people (although it seems the preference is for grappling and flipping people)

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Also a preference for awesome wide trousers that they sadly didn't have in the episode.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

I found it really disappointing that they used a whole feature length episode on this. I assumed they'd use that time to get back to the main event.
Yes the way the teacher's death bite happened was silly (and that the improved Morgan still felt like fighting him after he was bitten). But I'm curious how Morgan will keep this little rehabilitation project going, it seems impossible, particularly because nobody will support him on this one.

I'm not getting why the pole fighting bothers anyone.

If the theory is correct that Glenn is protected by the body on top of him, it seems a stretch that it would cover him well enough when there are so many zombies scrambling for a piece.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

yeah there basically isn't a remotely plausible way for glenn to survive that; if he does, it's a cheat, if he doesn't, even playing up the is-he-isn't-he angle is cheap

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

glenn and maggie have never been more annoying than when they were stubbornly looking for each other to the exclusion of everything and everyone else in S4

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

I was convinced "Eastman" would turn out to be the evil psycho he claimed to have imprisoned and starved - that Morgan would look through his wallet for gravestone deats and be like "Crighton Dalla... OH SH--!"

poster marked "WHITE PPL" (onimo), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

hah, Chris Hardwick had the same thought

Nhex, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

Eastman was a big lad for a vegetarian superninja. All those terrible attempts at goat cheese I suppose.

poster marked "WHITE PPL" (onimo), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

I liked Glenn and was annoyed that they killed him but it would be terrible if they Bobby Ewinged him back in.

poster marked "WHITE PPL" (onimo), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

All those terrible attempts at goat cheese I suppose.

How long was he living there? Goats don't give milk indefinitely.

I thought the whole thing was pretty tedious. It was the Walking Dead's own Nikki and Paulo episode.

trishyb, Thursday, 5 November 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link

Horrible episode

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Thursday, 5 November 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link

skipping right over this one. will watch again when they address rick in the winnebago.

calstars, Thursday, 5 November 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link

I've done OK avoiding this show, and I'm cool with my decision, but since I'd heard OK things about this episode, and knew that it was standalone, I decided to give it a shot. I made it maybe 15 minutes until I was all, man, fuck this overweight hippie sensei spouting droll TV witticisms. Show sucks. Per Nikki and Paulo, I heard it described (positively!) as a good "Lost" episode, which is nagl.

What's funny is the next thing I tried out was the James Brown movie, where this dude plays his dad!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 November 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

imo this episode was as bad as all the middle episodes of season 2, maybe worse.

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Thursday, 5 November 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

Spoiler: the next ep is even worse.

albvivertine, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 06:06 (eight years ago) link

Me, during the first infirmary scene in the most recent episode: "Maybe she's there to introduce Merritt Weaver to the joys of lesbianism."

My wife: "'Introduce?'"

Me, several scenes later: "Touché!"

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

such a terrible episode

rick, shouting: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BE VERY QUIET AND NOT MAKE ANY NOISE

someone should let the writers know that there is a middle ground between incoherent shouting and surly silences when it comes to character interaction

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

o yes and thanks for the maggie arc where she goes to search for glenn and then decides to turn back

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

Still not watching this but still following it. So, my prediction: Glenn is not dead, but he will still meet the same terrible fate he met in the comic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

I finally caught up to this in real time, and was thinking how essentially this show just follows Rick and his gang as they move through the country, find an outpost where other survivors have been living with some level of peace and security (the farm, the prison, woodbury, terminus, the church, alexandria) and proceed to totally fuck it up and ruin everything.

joygoat, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

OTM

schwantz, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

o yes and thanks for the maggie arc where she goes to search for glenn and then decides to turn back

― lex pretend, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:41 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when i watched i was like "i think lex will appreciate that she doesn't go far in her wandering?" but then it sorta fucks it up by them washing his name off the memorial wall. if he isn't dead it'll be so dumb.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

So, my prediction: Glenn is not dead, but he will still meet the same terrible fate he met in the comic.

fatherhood and domesticity?

the fiest p (onimo), Thursday, 12 November 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link

WHY can't they ever think up ways for people to die that don't involve complete stupidity??? no one who has survived this long would go so near corpses and no one would let them.

anyway it was nice to spend time with vaguely competent people, i guess, and sasha's thoughts on accountability are about as close as this show gets to insight or adequate dialogue.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Never thought this show would go back to this level of time wasting. When they do this it seems like they are holding back but surely they're nowhere near where the comics are now?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

didn't think it was bad. have a feeling that stupid couple that took off with Daryl's bike and bow are gonna come back as corpses or otherwise

Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

the mid-season finale might actually have been The Worst Walking Dead Episode Ever, what a flop

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

how did they all nearly get outrun by the horde when they had so much time to get inside, why do so many of them fall over, why does everything seem like a contrivance to creak the plot along, why does the show's universe arrange itself around rick's dumb plans so that he's always proved right, why do all the conflicts resolve themselves in the most boring ways possible, why is the dialogue so bad, why did we need two deanna/michonne deathbed scenes, why did everything move so slowly, why do characters mysteriously disappear for episodes at a time, why does no one ever have an intelligent plan, why is everyone taking deanna's scribbled ALFALFA town plans so seriously when i thought it was going to be used as evidence that she'd lost it

why has glenn forced enid to come back, she's quite right that she's better off out of it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

i think its time for me to give it up. I would stick it out if there was an end in sight but...

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah, pretty unsatisifying for a finale break episode. very annoyed how it "ended".
stupid Morgan though. GAWD

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

so much of the episode spent with the most irritating children ever, bring back mad lizzie

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

morgan's had quite the fall from grace in half a season

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

it's annoying because he's still a good actor, but Morgan's stance is kind of wildly unbelievable at this point

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think this is reaching Lost (the tv show) levels of bad time management.

Funny how Morgan and Carol were so neatly knocked out for that hostage scene to progress.

Why all those deathbed scenes? I suspect certain actors get guarantees in their contracts that they'll get enough minutes of emotional acting opportunities. Beth actress gets to sing a certain number of times.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

Tovuh is a major-enough legit actor, I guess

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

Sometimes when someone you know is dying you speak to them more than once.

the fiest p (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

Sorry Deanna, we've already spoken. You need to die now.

the fiest p (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

yeah, pretty unsatisifying for a finale break episode. very annoyed how it "ended".

As a TWD comic reader, I was waiting for that scene to play out. Relishing where the show deviates from the comic, as GRIM gets somewhat monotonous. There's grim that feels earned, and there's grim that feels like your brother grabbing your hand and asking "Why are you slapping yourself?"

Have they ever addressed island living? Next to the prison, seems like that'd be a defendable position. Plus allow a zombie/shark homage.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link


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