2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees POLL

every rem album went at least gold on release, they were runnerup to thriller in pnj w/ their debut album and every album after finished pretty high in the pnj (contrast w/ how the smiths did), and 'fall on me' and 'superman' crossed over to aor.

rem made the cover of rolling stone w/ the hed 'america's best rnr band' in 87. they'd made a handful of spin and musician covers by then. the smiths never got a full feature in rolling stone, no mainstream mag covers either, moz doesn't get the cover of spin until viva hate.

Also, R.E.M. were regularly selling out 6,000-10,000-seat college basketball arenas in '86-'87, while the Smiths rarely played halls that big in the US (usually venues half that size).

The Smiths didn't get their three gold albums until they'd broken up.

On the other hand, I distinctly remember an article on the Smiths in People magazine at one point. Don't remember when, but it existed - I saw it.

also "the one i love" was a top ten hit (their first of four), a feat the cure managed only with "lovesong" and depeche with "enjoy the silence," both later. really no comparison, and no surprise high school kids in iowa knew who they were.

It was partly thanks to KUNI from University of Northern Iowa, which had transmitters all over the state, at least on the Eastern half. I'm not sure if other states lacking decent sized cities had something like that in the 80s or not. I did see R.E.M. in a 6,000-10,000 seat arena in '87, and just assumed The Smiths could have played the same had they toured that year instead of breaking up.

Balls is likely right for the most part though. Here's their '86 tour -- not sure of the size of all the places. Anyone get to see 'em?

Jul 30 - London (Canada), Centennial Hall
Jul 31 - Toronto (Canada), Kingswood Music Theatre
Aug 2 - Ottawa (Canada), Capital Congress Center
Aug 3 - Montreal (Canada), Centre Sportif de l'U. de Montréal
Aug 5 - Mansfield (MA), Great Woods Performing Arts Center
Aug 6 - New York (NY), Pier 84
Aug 8 - Washington (DC), Smith Center
Aug 11 - Cleveland (OH), Music Hall
Aug 12 - Pittsburgh (PA), Fulton Theater
Aug 14 - Detroit (MI), Fox Theater
Aug 15 - Chicago (IL), Aragon Ballroom
Aug 16 - Milwaukee (WI), Performing Arts Center
Aug 22 - Santa Barbara (CA), Arlington Theater
Aug 23 - Berkeley (CA), Greek Theater
Aug 25 - Los Angeles (CA), Universal Amphitheater
Aug 26 - Los Angeles (CA), Universal Amphitheater
Aug 28 - Laguna Hills (CA), Irvine Meadows
Aug 29 - San Diego (CA), Open Air Theater
Aug 31 - Phoenix (AZ), Mesa Amphitheater
Sep 3 - Boulder (CO), Events Center
Sep 5 - Houston (TX), Cullen Auditorium
Sep 6 - Dallas (TX), Bronco Bowl
Sep 8 - New Orleans (LO), McAlister Auditorium
Sep 10 - St. Petersburg (FL), Bayfront Arena

Can't believe I'm saying this--I used to make fun of the Smiths endlessly--but I was at that Toronto show. As George Costanza said: "Elaine, I once told a woman that I coined the phrase, 'Pardon my French.'"

I think that's from "Franky, Mr. Shankly."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfkPC6kXIAAuR3W.jpg

Spoken like a true non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out.

Huh?. I think he made some good points, no matter what you think of him and his music.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/arts/music/after-his-induction-steve-miller-rips-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

used his onstage acceptance speech to tactfully allude to the Rock Hall’s opaque nomination process and poor track record on inducting women.

Backstage, he unleashed more of his feelings.

No, he definitely made good points; I just can't resist quoting Miles' autobio whenever Steve Miller is mentioned.

Oh...

Made the mistake of reading comments on the Gene Simmons comments on rap/NWA response at the HOF induction.

I can't believe there are still so many shitty people actively angry about the existence of rap.

So I guess Pearl Jam, Tupac, Journey, Steppenwolf, Bad Brains, Depeche Mode, ELO, Jane's Addiction and Joan Baez are this year's first timers added to the stand-by list? Awesome. Someone should devise a formula that determines the exact year in the future when every single act will have been admitted.

when jann wenner dies they'll team up with the lds and do a mass induction/baptism of everyone not yet in the hall

Smashing Pumpkins snubbed again

Will BOC ever get in?

Well, Twoism is from 95, so there's four years until they're eligible. Who knows?

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

Blue Oyster Cult getting snubbed is beyond stupid. Far better than so many bands in the HoF. Thing that's so odd to me is that they aren't like, for example, Can or some band like that who should be in but aren't that well known in mainstream circles, BOC has a handful of deathless FM classic rock hits that still get played to this day.

hardy har har your music humor is as clever as your political analysis

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Aw, thansk!

I'm just shocked that Dave Krusen and Matt Cameron are the only 2 Pearl Jam drummers deemed eligible for inclusion. They didn't play on their best albums!

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea. why isn't my favorite band in it?

the rock and roll hall of fame is a stupid idea.why isn't my favorite band in it?

Yeah! And the reason the best band isn't in it is because Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished is from 2000.

^ one of the best posts i've ever read on ilx