I just compared them visually in some sound editing program and I stand corrected. They were originally made up from the same samples as HTDA and this one new long track does indeed look more like the first three tracks from the original TAC record with some bits in between. The track length (16:37, just like HTDA) and the sonic similarities were confusing. Apologies.
― StanM, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
no, that's great, thanks for the detailed answer
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
So, since Amazon still has these up for pre-order for a 11/13 release date, I threw the dice and ordered three of them today. I expect to have the order canceled at some point, but who knows? Maybe Amazon got some of these before the "recall" or whatever it was and can actually ship them to arrive on time. I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic. Maybe I should order all of them?
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
worth a try imo
got my Angelic Conversation disc yesterday (from Boomkat), so much more enjoyable w/o the spoken word parts
at some point I'm gonna try and write up some impressions, there are some real gems scattered about on these discs
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link
really? I like the spoken word parts on that.
― akm, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
well sure, I don't dislike that version, but it's a totally different experience without them, like listening to an ambient record. lots of details that I had missed previously.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
http://www.timeless-shop.com/prod/peter-christopherson-60th-anniversary-edition-2184,73.html
https://vimeo.com/145122049
A book of Sleazy photography
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
RIP Jhonn, ten long years without your voice.
― sleeve, Friday, 13 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
Amazon order canceled. I expected that, I guess.
― Wimmels, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
I still haven't got any Coil, should I wait a bit to see if any definitive reissues come out? I nearly bought Scatology a few times 8 years ago but I wasn't sure if it was the version approved by the band.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
XP: 11 years. Not meaning to be a dick at all and pedants are evil scum... I was just reading the new edition of England's Hidden Reverse two days ago so it's fresh in my mind.
― Doran, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Robert: You know there are plenty of more recent Coil albums that are quite easy to get hold of I think. Remote Viewer isn't that highly rated but I think it's great late period Coil with Mike York's amazing Breton Pipes. Very psychedelic and drone-y. You can get an official DL of it from the Threshold House site for like four quid I think. It might not be the best but still a steal at that price.
― Doran, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
And you can get a WAV DL of Love's Secret Domain from the same source! For a tenner! Moon's Milk for seven quid... I had no idea! I'm glad I looked now.
― Doran, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
xps ELEVEN years
sorry Doran, I got delayed but the post was typed I promise ;)
― sleeve, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
I just got a copy of the Remote Viewer 2CD in the mail today, very psyched to listen as I don't think I've ever heard the 2nd disc
― sleeve, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
also, is that an advance copy of the book or is SAP actually mailing them out?!?
― sleeve, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
Ah, sorry, bit of an accidental humblebrag there, but I share a publisher with David Keenan so I got to see the new PDF ahead of time as I was recording a segment on Coil for BBC 6Music's Freakier Zone tomorrow night just yesterday, so wanted to do a bit of last minute cramming before the show. It's a shame I don't share the author's pugilistic abilities and enjoy the same high regard among the readers of The WIRE as well but you can't have it all. What I can say, judging by the electronic edition I've read, is it's going to be a fine tome - I won't say anything else as I think they're still sweating over what's going in that final proof that goes to print - but the reprint is long overdue, I'm sure you'll agree.
― Doran, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
yep, definitely
― sleeve, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Omfg cannot wait. Will there be an ebook as well as a print one?
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 13 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
No idea but I'll ask Strange Attractor's Arch Drude and report back next week.
― Doran, Friday, 13 November 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link
Oh hey SPEAKING of Mr. Doran here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06phdz9
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
Starts around 13 minutes in.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
And even MORE great news, given the mention of the EHR revision:
http://strangeattractor.co.uk/shoppe/englands-hidden-reverse/
Revised & expanded edition456 pages, hardback/paperback, 216mm x 156mmFully illustrated in colour.* Full colour throughout* Two new chapters and a significant number of new images* Cover by Mark Titchner* Available December 2015 in three editions:A standard, unlimited paperback edition will be available from all good booksellers priced £20.* Special EditionA5, Hardback on colour boards, 456ppThis includes FURFUR, a separate 120-page A5 zine with all new, exclusive interviews and imagery from more provocateurs of the EHR universe: including Alex Binnie, Antal Nemeth, Chris Carter, Colin Potter, Cosey Fanni Tutti, Drew McDowall, Gavin Semple, Ivan Pavlov, Jill Westwood, Jordi Valls, Matthew Levi Stevens, Paul Hurst and Christine Glover of Produktion, Robin Rimbaud and more TBC.Furfur cover design by Elijah BurgherLimited to 1000 copies£40+ p&p ( £5 UK /£10 EU /£25 ROW )* we apologise for the expensive ROW postage, but this is the best rate we can find
* Full colour throughout* Two new chapters and a significant number of new images* Cover by Mark Titchner
* Available December 2015 in three editions:
A standard, unlimited paperback edition will be available from all good booksellers priced £20.
* Special EditionA5, Hardback on colour boards, 456ppThis includes FURFUR, a separate 120-page A5 zine with all new, exclusive interviews and imagery from more provocateurs of the EHR universe: including Alex Binnie, Antal Nemeth, Chris Carter, Colin Potter, Cosey Fanni Tutti, Drew McDowall, Gavin Semple, Ivan Pavlov, Jill Westwood, Jordi Valls, Matthew Levi Stevens, Paul Hurst and Christine Glover of Produktion, Robin Rimbaud and more TBC.
Furfur cover design by Elijah BurgherLimited to 1000 copies
£40+ p&p ( £5 UK /£10 EU /£25 ROW )* we apologise for the expensive ROW postage, but this is the best rate we can find
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
it would be even greater news if there was a cheaper upgrade option for those of us who have the first edition. ;-)
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
xp thanks!
― StanM, Monday, 16 November 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
Stir: well, there is the paperback as mentioned.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 November 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
Amazon order canceled. I expected that, I guess.― Wimmels, Friday, November 13, 2015 3:06 PM
― Wimmels, Friday, November 13, 2015 3:06 PM
Hmmm, mine (in the US, for 6 of the discs) has not. Still no shipping date, though.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
i know, but i want to read the a separate 120-page A5 zine with all new, exclusive interviews and imagery from more provocateurs. i thought about it for about 30 seconds and then hit the paypal button anyway.
xp
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
Anybody see this?
www.amazon.com/Twilight-Language-Compendium-World-Coil/dp/0990970086/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1447700399&sr=8-5&keywords=england%27s+hidden+reverse
― Wimmels, Monday, 16 November 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
I went through the exact same thing as stirmonster.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
yeah, me too. + also thanks, Wimmels! (also on Amazon.co.uk for UK shipping etc)
― StanM, Monday, 16 November 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
what's the current state of play re: thighpaulsandra is the devil* btw
*best tunes, etc
― avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Monday, 16 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
just listened to mr. doran's 7 music coil show. most excellent listening and impeccable track choices! i couldn't agree more about the non inclusion of "restless day" on "scatology".
however, the perennial pedant in me has to point out that lady diana and prince charles got married in 1981 not 1984. i know this, not because i'm a royalist but as in my head their wedding is always associated with the release of flux of pink indian's "neu smell" ep which was released in the summer of '81.
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I caught that myself. Slips, we all have 'em.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
indeed we do!
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link
Damn it!
In slightly less vexing news, EHR looks set to get an e-book edition at some point, so Kindle owners can celebrate.
― Doran, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 09:02 (eight years ago) link
Rumors about a possible next batch of release here, maybe a hoax, maybe not
http://www.discogs.com/reviews?page=1&label=Threshold+Archives
― StanM, Thursday, 19 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
from that Discogs thread, no idea how legit this info is obvs:
bullmoose.com had all 10 listed and were taking pre-orders, but sent out an email today saying the label has cancelledthem...which I figured, but it was worth a shot....makes me wonder if those listed will actually be the next batch released...time will tellthis is what they had listed
Airborne BellsCD769791761223
Born Again PagansCD769791761520
Nasa-ArabCD769791761421
Astral Disaster2CD769791763326
The New Orleans Backwards2CD769791763029
The Sound of MusicCD769791761322
UntitledCD769791762022
HeartwormsCD769791761629
The Restitution of Decayed IntelligenceCD769791762329
I Don't Want to Be the OneCD769791761926
― sleeve, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link
This whole thing is getting ridiculous
If this is supposed to be funny, I'm not laughing
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:43 (eight years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/19485-danny-hyde-coil-backwards-interview
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:39 (eight years ago) link
more bootlegs. i was in amsterdam at the weekend and spotted bootleg pressings of astral disaster, horse rotorvator, queens of circulating library and a double vinyl selvaggina, go back in the woods.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link
cough
https://archive.org/details/@love_exposure7?and[0]=coil
(those reissues, etc.)
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 04:12 (eight years ago) link
o damn
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link
Time Machines is getting a reissue
https://www.daisrecords.com/collections/music?mc_cid=366d28a32c&mc_eid=ea4c199572
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
not to mention this recently issued beauty which is currently in the mail headed to my house:
https://img.discogs.com/vxZM8as9hb230WJiVz-lk5pddT8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-10774292-1504285204-6019.jpeg.jpg
https://www.discogs.com/Coil-A-Cold-Cell-In-Bangkok/release/10774292
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
(shout out to stirmonster)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
I've ordered the Time Machines CD but not that 4 minute vinyl thing :(
BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKql4sX49s8
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
Wild to think that Dais Records are unleashing this on the world
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1706649906_10.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIpTEc2XcAAhvkd.jpg:large
― 🔱 Holger Jowday ^🌑^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
I'd like to buy the Time Machines record but I'm hoping that somewhere in the UK has it for sale. Postage from the US is a bit steep
― I am using your worlds, Sunday, 10 September 2017 10:20 (six years ago) link
but not that 4 minute vinyl thing
but, it's a lovely looking record. :-)
i'm fully aware it is a ridiculously short amount of music but i had had so many people ask me to do it that i succumbed. there is also the bonus that it looks like it will raise enough money to pay for sponsporing 20 vulnerable thai children for a year.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 10 September 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link