Katrina's aftermath

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1584 of them)
Everyone was OTM when they called New Orleans the Bangladesh of America for like, I dunno, the last 20 years up to about 2 hours ago. They should have stayed with that.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Knowing rotten mother nature luck, there could be another hurricane hit in the area before the end of the year.

i was gonna say. they shouldn't break their backs cleaning up the city when hurricane season isn't even over yet.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, looting televisions is just plain wrong, but looting a grocery store ... I dunno. Seems like you could be morally excused for that.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ned i dont wanna sound like im fuckin with you or nothing but whats with you always being so eager to wallow in misery and destruction like this? between the obsessive katrina fetish and your monthly threads poring over every single horror in iraq... i mean obv this shit did actually happen but i question the newsworthiness of alot of it beyond car crash rubbernecking/tabloid bullshit, especially when you dont offer any commentary beyond 'oh thats too bad', it just seems like you really love to revel in disaster porn and its kinda buggin me out

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean just cuz its on the bbc and its appalling doesnt mean you necessarily gotta post about it every single time

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

>i mean just cuz its on the bbc and its appalling doesnt mean you necessarily gotta post about it every single time<

This may come as a shock, but not everyone here is from Great Britain.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

no i know but ned lives in california but has an ian reise-moraine style bbc.co.uk fetish

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm thankful to ned (or anyone) for passing katrina news along. the internet is much better at immediate news-gathering than the networks are. (even if it takes a while for "real" news sources to confirm the info.)

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

ILX is extremely useful to me as a current affairs commentary site. It's often my first port of call when big news happens and actually does help me sort the truth from the bullshit, believe it or not.

Put me down for that crazy information fetish too, I guess.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

no i know but ned lives in california but has an ian reise-moraine style bbc.co.uk fetish

the bbc is good for american news because it's not quite as tainted by conservative interests as u.s. cable news is.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"quite" being the operative word

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

WWLTV.com is basically the best place for news regarding the situation, especially given that half the channels in town aren't even broadcasting.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

ehh look yall i know this but i still question how crucial it is to post 1000 specific instances of terrorist beheadings trivia and abu ghraib prison rapes and declare them 'most unfun'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

and if you expect to get all your news from ilx dont even talk about american news or any other news source as 'biased'

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

haha where did we say we got all our news from ilx?

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

it just seems like you really love to revel in disaster porn and its kinda buggin me out

It's a fair assessment. I'd say this, though -- w/r/t Iraq, I find it important to document what is going on, a continuing acknowledgement and bitter, sick anger. There are thousands of people who have died now, our fellow citizens, far more Iraqis, others, and the decisions and mindsets of the people currently in charge of our government are part and parcel in terms of how this will get resolved, what if anything will come of what's been happening now for almost two and a half years. If it is pornography to observe what is being said, how it's being said, where the second thoughts are emerging among that horrific clique of hawks, the emerging sense that 'mistakes were made' -- and that people are dead because of it -- then call it that if you must. But I will watch and I will call attention to it because I want it documented, even in this own small one-person way of mine. We are not living in a cocoon, but I think our government is doing its best to pretend we should. I find that contemptible -- and whatever else I think about it, without pretending I've never used understatement and sarcasm about it all before, I don't find anything at all about Iraq simply 'most unfun.'

As for Katrina, you can call it my realization that this is getting worse all the time. No, I won't be posting about it forever. But it is happening right now, and I admit my attention is on it, and perhaps some of the information might be useful to other folks. Perhaps I am wrong.

Finally, the reason for said BBC 'fetish' is simple -- when 9/11 happened, I realized that CNN and other mainstream American media outlets would swiftly become unwatchable, their sites unreadable. I felt the jingoism coalescing almost immediately. Since that time I rely on the BBC site for basic world news, and while they obviously have their own biases at work which it would be foolish to ignore, I have not chosen to look back.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Latest from WWLTV.com:

Jeff Parish President. Residents will probably be allowed back in town in a week, with identification only, but only to get essentials and clothing. You will then be asked to leave and not come back for one month.

holy shit.

mike a, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently, the I-10 bridge is destroyed in "dozens" of sections. Another station broadcast footage of it. WWL is going over there with a helicopter now, so it can be expected that they'll have footage within a couple hours.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

aight ned, fair enough!! thnx for responding to all that

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yer welcome. Trust me, these are questions I ask myself as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, looting televisions is just plain wrong, but looting a grocery store ... I dunno. Seems like you could be morally excused for that.

http://www.abc-cafe.com/chrisfennessy/images/splash_page/BHH2001.jpg

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Finally, the reason for said BBC 'fetish' is simple -- when 9/11 happened, I realized that CNN and other mainstream American media outlets would swiftly become unwatchable, their sites unreadable. I felt the jingoism coalescing almost immediately.

yes, that's exactly it. it's not snobbishness -- all those cgi american flags and that bombastic music is egregious and nauseating.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Construction is starting on temporary housing in Texas; it's looking like there will be several refugee camps to house people. I've got my name on the list to go help - my company works as a sub to FEMA on housing and infrastructure (water, sewer, power) - but I won't know for a few days if I'm going.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

is

are, i should say.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

For those concerned about Fetchboy, here's an indirect update via nola.com:

There are several reports that the Uptown area remains unflooded, particularly around Magazine and Jefferson (at least to Webster), and along Baronne Street (though it was unclear where on Baronne).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey 3

If you think Ned only dwells on "misery" then you might be dwelling on it yourself. You obviously havent' seen the hundreds of positive and sunny posts that Ned makes all over the place that have nothing to do with death, nor destruction. I should say am most familiar with Ned of ILM, but still.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, Jimmy. It is, how you say, the way of the French?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

hey Jaq, will you take a camera with you? I'd to get an idea of what the process of building a refugee city looks like, if possible.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

is there some reason why we shouldn't pay a great deal of attention to significant natural events that become 'disaster's because people happen to be in their way? is there something inherently ghoulish about doing so?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

No I don't think so, if it's not ALL one dwells on.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

No I don't think so, if it's not ALL one dwells on.

i'm finding it hard to pay attention to much else.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i think at some point it becomes ghoulish

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Well then, why don't you just stay off this thread, and do, I don't know, the life-affirming stuff you have to do?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

why dont you suck a life affirming dick?

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

do we still talk about Mt St Helens because 60 people (and 7000 large animals) died or because it was a huge volcanic eruption, and eruptions are cool, or at least compelling? are, for lack of a better word, 'extreme' natural events ghoulish even if they don't cause much or any loss of life?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

to be slightly fair to 3, it's not as if Athens GA is avoiding any of the brunt of this storm, from what I can tell... definitely not the worst, of course... but being anywhere in the southeast can't be fun this week. So people well outside the area obsessed with the coverage can seem, well, a bit odd to people who are having to deal with even some of Katrina, I'd imagine.

I hope Rock Hardy is doing fine.

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

although (sorry 3), i wouldn't tell anyone to suck a dick, re: the issue.

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

was abu ghraib torturs or the 7/7 bombings 'extreme natural events'?? i dont give a fuck what yall do but the dishonesty of tryna pretend youre any better than fark.com ppl furiously masturbating over nicolas berg tapes cuz you put a frowny face at the end of your posts is bullshit

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

btw yeah donut i stay in atlanta now and we got some storms & flooding yesterday but nothing real serious

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

what if the dick sucking is an 'extreme natural event'??

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

it is when MY dick is involved!

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

3, i think a better question than any you've posted would be to ask yourself why you have decided to appoint yourself the arbiter of somebody else's level of compassion.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

OK why the fuck was that tourist ho from Philly STILL IN NEW ORLEANS??? I can understand like actual residents staying behind but a tourist? Why didn't she go back to Philly, like, several days ago when they evacuated? She seriously needs to suck an extreme natural event dick or something for even having the gall to judge, like, even an axe murderer. WHY DO THEY ALWAYS INTERVIEW THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE THEY CAN FIND

god whatever.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

but anyway i'd rather read about what's actually happening due to katrina rather than speculation on certain message board poster's motivations.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not talking about abu ghraib or 7/7 or ned (who posts about everything all the time, obv)

xpost - my impression was that many tourists were unable to leave

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

christ, they've declared martial law.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

trife's only concern wr2 the new orleans flooding is whether no limit and cash money's offices have survived.

really, if this type of thread bothers you so much, then why post here? yer posts are not constructive AT ALL.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

holy shit, kingfish ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

what does posting grotesqueries on an internet messageboard have to do with 'compassion'?? look i really dont give a fuck either way i just asked ned about posting on this shit every time and he responded so its cool now!!

3, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Fetchboy's a cool guy. I hope he is doing okay.

Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.