"Alcachofa" by Ricardo Villalobos

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On first listen this is really good, if lacking in hooks.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

101st best album of the 00s

― teh pow! (blueski), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

btw by "this" i meant the new mini lp, if that wasn't clear...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

...it wasn't!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Puns are great! Thé au harem....HA!

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

so.. does no-one have anything much to say about 'harem' or did i miss the thread where we talked about it? i'm rather liking what i've heard of it, though somewhat cautiously.

― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Mini-LP my ass. The CD is 73 minutes, and the vinyl looks to be even longer.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Mitch and I try to revive Villalobos at the same time

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

(the first xrevive?!)

― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

there must be a thread somewhere where people talk about the 2ls remix of dexter, right? i'd somehow ignored it when it came out, but hearing it on fabric 19 has made me realise how utterly amazing it is.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

'harem' seems a bit too ... cerebral to me. (for lack of a better word.) i dunno, i'm having trouble getting into it.

― big baby jesus., Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

big baby j, you don't smoke enough weed! (or, hey, maybe you do. i'm just sayin'.)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

oh we can take care of that. i dug the vocal tune at the end a lot, and some other moments too. i should give it another chance.

― big baby jesus., Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

we really haven't talked about 'harem' enough. i finally really got into it a few days ago, when i played it really loud. i'll write more about it in a bit, but here's a question: what are the differences between the cd and vinyl versions? apart from having an extra track ('stereobox'), it seems that the versions of 'hireklon' and 'true to myself' are both nearly 15 mins long. are there any other differences?

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i own the vinyl. maybe i just had shitty mp3's (seems unlikely), but 'hireklon' has a LOT more going on percussively than on the cd-r i was listening to before...

the other tracks are identical. i've not done a side by side w/ 'true to myself', but my copy of that on mp3 was definitely fucked up (adbrupt cut off) so there's not much point.

― a, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

he's very jazzy, isn't he??

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i am looking forward to lots of drum circles, windchimes and didgeridoo on the upcoming fabric mix.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

stop it, you!

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

In the vein of Harem being a "mini" LP, the remix of true to myself will be forty-five minutes.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

vahid i have supported yr anti microhouse crusade...until now.

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Several respected micro music lovers recommended this to me, but I never really got into it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Alcachofa?

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Brilliant record.

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

???

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i really like this album! alcachofa too, although i thought it was less like an artichoke and more like some sort of prickly desert bush.

but seriously ...

ricardo's percussive talent is undisputed: the sophisticatedly elastic rhythm meanders of Latin American/Caribbean origin sound ... the tracks appear surprisingly volatile, despite the considerable playing times of several titles which are absolutely required for exhausting the free, rhythmic modulatons

he should form a group with pharoah sanders and osunlade!

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I am Pharoah Saunders' biggest fan.

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

and yet I cannot spell his name

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I am going to listen to this Alcachofa again.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

recently i have made a turnaround and realized that the early section of taka taka (before claro intelecto comes in) is what i always wanted from microhouse and found lacking in labels like kompakt, poker flat, etc ... an understanding of spatialization that isn't ripped wholesale from 70s dub, truly new rhythmic signatures which take in "organic" rhythms but hint at more, too.

it's even more than what i always wanted from dj pica pica pica and nobukazu takemura - sounds like gamelan tapes played backwards at high speed, with the dj leaning on the mixing board with his elbows on the buttons marked "delay" and "pixilate".

has there really been anything like "taka taka" since? "button down mind" pt 2? i fear that falls into the same traps akufen fell into with his fabric mix, too many cartoon animal honking and farting, not enough of ricardo's sunbaked grace.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Taka Taka IS good!

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

probably "superlongevity 3" would be a good place to start but i am seriously biased against unmixed compilations ... probably residual loathing after being so let down by the "famous when dead" comps, great tracks but oddly numbing when experienced in their full unmixed glory.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

adam if this keeps up soon you will be posting in monosyllabic grunts.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

yes!

― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

has there really been anything like "taka taka" since?

download one luciano set

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

vahid that description of taka taka is beautiful. i am going to go listen to it right now!

― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"sunbaked grace," ver' nice.
i can't think of anything else that comes close to that quality, really, vahid. (and totally with you on unmixed comps - i love the superlongevities, but only as tools... i'd never listen to the CD alone.)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

hey philip, ver' nice yerself, yr mutek "month in techno" article is truly la rock 01.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

wow! thx!

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I hadn't heard these "extra triple vinyl" tracks before now!

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

confession time:

i. I have the vinyl the alcahofa and have only listened to 'dexter' and 'easy lee'
ii. I have the vinyl of vocalcity and have only listened to 'tessio'

: /

― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd call you silly, but I merely envy your impending epipahnies!

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sell me Alcachofa vinyl. plz!

(Cozen, do you "do" mp3 cds?)

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I "receive" mp3 CDs.

I also "send" them.

I would sell you it but I'm about to buy a new turntable (uh after my new imac &c.)

― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I am also saving for a turntable but...

I don't even have SPEAKERS in my house.

ILM can flog me now!

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

are you finally going to send me something?

: )

― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

yes...I...might

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

don't move to canada quite yet

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if Spencer has tried listening to Alcachofa again yet.

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Do any of you have the vinyl version of Alcachofa? Is it just me or is it intentional for the 4 sides to switch rpm when you flip sides? It's very annoying.

― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link

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