Rolling 2015 Thread on Race

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (788 of them)

Update: sister removed my politely-worded comment about how maaaaybe expressing support for cops at a time when the people in their precinct were justifiably angry at the way they were being treated felt like a bit of racism, and messaged me about how I wasn't being 'nice' and was trying to make her look stupid.

BUT there has been a breakthrough, of sorts: when I pointed out that half of her juvenile-delinquent friends, would, if black, be dead or trapped in the prison system, she replied that most of them had grown up and become basically decent people. So I told her that their black counterparts surely deserved the same chance to grow out of the same kind of phase, but that wasn't happening, and it seems the penny has finally dropped.

voodoo rage (suzy), Friday, 20 November 2015 07:08 (eight years ago) link

GREENFIELD — A Greenfield police sergeant who is his department’s liaison on the town Human Rights Commission is being criticized for hanging a Confederate flag on the rear interior wall of his garage on Shelburne Road. The flag can be seen by passersby when the overhead door is open.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12311207_10154368522067137_5337236966970134206_n.jpg?oh=2846e899e801852bd05d7834f6570a24&oe=56DDE7C7

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

i've met some of the cops here. not hard to believe at all.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link

the South shall rise again... in the North

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

i'm normally a pretty calm dude but i have this rage whenever i see some dumbass with a confederate flag in my city

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

some idiot in my neighborhood had one in his second story window... a couple doors down from the muslim community center where a bunch of african immigrants worship

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

White Debt

Thomas H. Handy (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 3 December 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

Soooo gooooood

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Thursday, 3 December 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

yeah, thanks for sharing that

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Belgian Minister for Culture Sven Gatz getting in on the annual Black Pete farrago.:

https://twitter.com/svengatz/status/673487488388866048

https://twitter.com/svengatz/status/673781023684063232

Imagine!

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 7 December 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

republicans and horse people are mad at sports illustrated

weird poll about the underlying attitudes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNHISSWUAAF_42.png

goole, Monday, 14 December 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Zipseatthetrack/status/676395278996492288

lmao #horsetwitter

goole, Monday, 14 December 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

oh my fucking god

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah dude it's a fucking oil fire out there. some top shelf clowning happening though.

as an aside, i'm a little surprised attitudes toward brady and rodgers are so similar and even. i had an inkling that brady had turned into a lil bit of a tcot hero but i guess not.

goole, Monday, 14 December 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

woooooooow

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

I hated myself so much for laughing at that

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

lol dude writes for a website called horseracingnation.com but I misread it as horseracigenation.com and I was like what in the fuck

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/zatt/American_Pharoah_Denied_Sportsman_of_the_Year_123#

Sports Illustrated, your agenda is showing.

#actuallyitsaboutethicsinhorsejournalism

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

#notallhorses

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

how shocking that a poll that ended the day before a publication's street date had no impact on the publication's choice for a title

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

#horsesarepeopletoo

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

If the readers' poll were the basis for choosing the cover, they'd caption the poll accordingly. I feel the same way about people annoyingly saying Sanders should have been Time's POY, fwiw, except that I'm voting for Sanders, and also he is not a horse running for president.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhlyQaCvUtA

welltris (crüt), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

I would want to vote for that, though. #BoJackforPrez

Frederik B, Monday, 14 December 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

If the readers' poll were the basis for choosing the cover, they'd caption the poll accordingly. I feel the same way about people annoyingly saying Sanders should have been Time's POY, fwiw, except that I'm voting for Sanders, and also he is not a horse running for president.

have we proven this

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

he's a lizard obv

k3vin k., Monday, 14 December 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

one of the best things louis has ever done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK8Y2nO_8TM

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

gg, Citidel dummies: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151210/PC16/151219964

I mean, yes I believe they were "dressed as ghosts" but I also believe they knew what their ghost costumes looked like and 5 seconds of looking in a mirror and self-reflection should have led them to the conclusion that they were making a terrible decision.

RIP American history classes, you were useful 25 years ago

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/16/where-did-all-the-money-shaun-king-raised-for-black-lives-go.html

shaun king feeling the heat again

k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that was a tough thing to scroll through in my timeline last weekend. Does anyone know more about what is up and down there, why Justice Together failed and all that?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

Also, trying to find information on these kind of things on twitter makes it so much easier to understand the need for block-buttons and anti-harassment laws. Whoo boy, is there a lot of haters out there.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

oh man, this essay is the #1 reason my job doesn't require frequent travel

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

i am way too fragile for this nonsense, i would definitely lose my shit around the third time somebody tried to "helpfully" point out my suspicious electronics

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

not sure if I posted it elsewhere, but I was coincidentally on a flight with an ex-coworker (he was a contractor doing software development) and his family. they were seated near the front, and for some reason the flight attendants were hassling them for an extended period of time, to the extent where they were told they might have to disembark and take a later flight in the interest of security. the group was him, his wife, her parents, and their baby daughter

finally they were allowed to sit and the flight took off. i talked to him when we landed, and it turns out someone "smelled something odd" in that area of the plane. after ten or fifteen minutes of bothering his family, the flight crew finally figured out it was the chemicals in the front toilet, which was two rows in front of their seats.

he and his family are from India

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

if you smell something say something racist

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah I mean this is part and parcel of living in the US; it is not necessarily constant but it IS omnipresent

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

My only TSA experience was oddly apologetic. Yes, they pulled me out of a line and gave me a 45 minute interrogation but they strenuously clarified that they respected my values and culture (I have none of one and very little of the other) while doing so, though I'm sure that's not the case with everyone. To have it done by every idiot on the plane must be horrific. I haven't been back to the U.S. since 08 or 09 and would imagine it's much worse now than it was then.

I go to a lot of strange places and, Israel aside, that level of scrutiny is never there - even in cities that have been subject to numerous terror attacks or are full of diehard racists.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

a meaningful part of what makes the "it's okay to be A LITTLE racist at the airport" trend so uterly pernicious is that aw gawrsh shucks attitude that hey, it's not like I'M doing this racist thing, it's the system that forces me to do this, so sorry, gonna have to feel your cock with the back of my hand now, it's crazy i know but what're you gonna do

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

tbf he did write some pretty bad java code but if that's a terrorist activity then i'm guilty, too

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

xp: I can honestly say that I've never had another passenger feel my cock with the back of his hand in the security line and I am very sorry if that happened to you, forks

or maybe you missed the point of Dash's article

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

i got the point of the article. i was responding to sharivari's post directly above mine.

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

a) booming post and b) which reminds me of Charles Pierce's line about Libertarians getting reliably incensed about the TSA because as overwhelmingly straight white dudes that's basically the only thing similar to oppression they actually experience.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link

I left off the the coda to that, which is that when a person of color tells them that what they're experiencing is a fraction of what they could be experiencing if they weren't white, it's about a 50% chance that the person of color will be dismissed as a whiner who likes to play the race card and why won't anyone take their white fragility seriously

its subtle brume (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

The unwillingness of many white people to acknowledge white privilege never fails to astound me. Like, the simple act of acknowledging it isn't going to do you any actual harm, you know.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

the word "privilege" connotes an unearned success. so you basically want people to admit they got something they didn't earn themselves. keep in mind this is America.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link

I always figure that's a major component of it, yeah. People have to first acknowledge that concepts like fairness and justice and words like 'earn' and 'deserve' are all pretty much bullshit before they're able to acknowledge their own position in the web of bullshit.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

ppl need to stop thinking things can be earned

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.