Rolling 2015 Thread on Race

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yeah dude it's a fucking oil fire out there. some top shelf clowning happening though.

as an aside, i'm a little surprised attitudes toward brady and rodgers are so similar and even. i had an inkling that brady had turned into a lil bit of a tcot hero but i guess not.

goole, Monday, 14 December 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

woooooooow

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

I hated myself so much for laughing at that

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

lol dude writes for a website called horseracingnation.com but I misread it as horseracigenation.com and I was like what in the fuck

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/zatt/American_Pharoah_Denied_Sportsman_of_the_Year_123#

Sports Illustrated, your agenda is showing.

#actuallyitsaboutethicsinhorsejournalism

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

#notallhorses

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

how shocking that a poll that ended the day before a publication's street date had no impact on the publication's choice for a title

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

#horsesarepeopletoo

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

If the readers' poll were the basis for choosing the cover, they'd caption the poll accordingly. I feel the same way about people annoyingly saying Sanders should have been Time's POY, fwiw, except that I'm voting for Sanders, and also he is not a horse running for president.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhlyQaCvUtA

welltris (crüt), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

I would want to vote for that, though. #BoJackforPrez

Frederik B, Monday, 14 December 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

If the readers' poll were the basis for choosing the cover, they'd caption the poll accordingly. I feel the same way about people annoyingly saying Sanders should have been Time's POY, fwiw, except that I'm voting for Sanders, and also he is not a horse running for president.

have we proven this

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Monday, 14 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

he's a lizard obv

k3vin k., Monday, 14 December 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

one of the best things louis has ever done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK8Y2nO_8TM

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

gg, Citidel dummies: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151210/PC16/151219964

I mean, yes I believe they were "dressed as ghosts" but I also believe they knew what their ghost costumes looked like and 5 seconds of looking in a mirror and self-reflection should have led them to the conclusion that they were making a terrible decision.

RIP American history classes, you were useful 25 years ago

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/16/where-did-all-the-money-shaun-king-raised-for-black-lives-go.html

shaun king feeling the heat again

k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that was a tough thing to scroll through in my timeline last weekend. Does anyone know more about what is up and down there, why Justice Together failed and all that?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

Also, trying to find information on these kind of things on twitter makes it so much easier to understand the need for block-buttons and anti-harassment laws. Whoo boy, is there a lot of haters out there.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

oh man, this essay is the #1 reason my job doesn't require frequent travel

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

i am way too fragile for this nonsense, i would definitely lose my shit around the third time somebody tried to "helpfully" point out my suspicious electronics

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

not sure if I posted it elsewhere, but I was coincidentally on a flight with an ex-coworker (he was a contractor doing software development) and his family. they were seated near the front, and for some reason the flight attendants were hassling them for an extended period of time, to the extent where they were told they might have to disembark and take a later flight in the interest of security. the group was him, his wife, her parents, and their baby daughter

finally they were allowed to sit and the flight took off. i talked to him when we landed, and it turns out someone "smelled something odd" in that area of the plane. after ten or fifteen minutes of bothering his family, the flight crew finally figured out it was the chemicals in the front toilet, which was two rows in front of their seats.

he and his family are from India

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

if you smell something say something racist

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah I mean this is part and parcel of living in the US; it is not necessarily constant but it IS omnipresent

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

My only TSA experience was oddly apologetic. Yes, they pulled me out of a line and gave me a 45 minute interrogation but they strenuously clarified that they respected my values and culture (I have none of one and very little of the other) while doing so, though I'm sure that's not the case with everyone. To have it done by every idiot on the plane must be horrific. I haven't been back to the U.S. since 08 or 09 and would imagine it's much worse now than it was then.

I go to a lot of strange places and, Israel aside, that level of scrutiny is never there - even in cities that have been subject to numerous terror attacks or are full of diehard racists.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

a meaningful part of what makes the "it's okay to be A LITTLE racist at the airport" trend so uterly pernicious is that aw gawrsh shucks attitude that hey, it's not like I'M doing this racist thing, it's the system that forces me to do this, so sorry, gonna have to feel your cock with the back of my hand now, it's crazy i know but what're you gonna do

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

tbf he did write some pretty bad java code but if that's a terrorist activity then i'm guilty, too

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

xp: I can honestly say that I've never had another passenger feel my cock with the back of his hand in the security line and I am very sorry if that happened to you, forks

or maybe you missed the point of Dash's article

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

i got the point of the article. i was responding to sharivari's post directly above mine.

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

a) booming post and b) which reminds me of Charles Pierce's line about Libertarians getting reliably incensed about the TSA because as overwhelmingly straight white dudes that's basically the only thing similar to oppression they actually experience.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link

I left off the the coda to that, which is that when a person of color tells them that what they're experiencing is a fraction of what they could be experiencing if they weren't white, it's about a 50% chance that the person of color will be dismissed as a whiner who likes to play the race card and why won't anyone take their white fragility seriously

its subtle brume (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

The unwillingness of many white people to acknowledge white privilege never fails to astound me. Like, the simple act of acknowledging it isn't going to do you any actual harm, you know.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

the word "privilege" connotes an unearned success. so you basically want people to admit they got something they didn't earn themselves. keep in mind this is America.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link

I always figure that's a major component of it, yeah. People have to first acknowledge that concepts like fairness and justice and words like 'earn' and 'deserve' are all pretty much bullshit before they're able to acknowledge their own position in the web of bullshit.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

ppl need to stop thinking things can be earned

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

People will have to get to the point where they're like 'what even is a bootstrap and why did I ever think I could pull anything up by it' before any more meaningful change can occur.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

people are vacuous selfish fools who will believe any fancy that will justify what happens to others. hooray?

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

pretty much yeah

have heard the "well they're the ones trying to hijack the planes, not us" argument. to that I say, "okay, how would you feel if we had security checkpoints at schools that only white boys had to go through". I guess if you don't have a problem with that...

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

not sure how that even applies to the overzealous xenophobic airline passenger shit which isn't based on a no-flight list or even accurate ethnic identification, just a vague "don't trust ppl who don't look like me" impulse

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

as far as why Indian-looking folks ought to be "randomly" screened more often. which often gets justified as "I'm not being racist, I'm being realistic"

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Confrontation over dreadlocks on college campus goes viral

http://www.wcvb.com/news/confrontation-over-dreadlocks-on-college-campus-goes-viral/38755010

Tay, an artificially intelligent software chatbot (dandydonweiner), Friday, 1 April 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Today Dolezal is jobless, and feeding her family with food stamps. A friend helped her pay this month’s rent; next month she expects to be homeless. She has applied for more than 100 jobs, but no one will hire her, not even to stack supermarket shelves. She applied for a position at the university where she used to teach, and says she was interviewed by former colleagues who pretended to have no recollection of having met her. The only work she has been offered is reality TV, and porn. She has changed her name on all her legal documents, but is still recognised wherever she goes. People point at her and laugh.

j., Sunday, 26 February 2017 02:53 (seven years ago) link

lol ok cmon admit you thought it too

sleepingbag, Sunday, 26 February 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link

Was just coming here to post this.

Obviously, regardless of what I think of her, I don't wish homelessness/joblessness on her (assuming that she's being honest about these things). But it's still infuriating that she won't own up to any wrongdoing. Even friends of mine have been more apologetic, saying "was what she done that bad", and really, conflating identifying closely with another race with "appropriating a race through a creepy form of playacting for reasons of pure self-interest and career advancement" is nagl.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 February 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/rachel-dolezal-has-changed-her-name-1792867445

If only she had picked a name like “Susie Reynolds,” she probably could have found a job by now.

j., Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Rolling 2017 Thread on Race

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

rachel dolezal is so 2015 though

example (crüt), Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

footnotes

j., Sunday, 5 March 2017 03:14 (seven years ago) link


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