best films of 2010-2019

Well its indie that sold out (Creation Records, etc)

absolutely refute that under the skin is admired by its fans due to scarjo lust

I did a quick search on "scarjo lust" in quotations and only found one other use of this term anywhere on the net. which astounded me.

do a quick search on "ScarJo hot"

Her is the far superior ScarJo sci-fi flick, imho, though it affords hetero males no opportunity to stare at her.

"Pretty cool list until it hits the top 10 then it becomes american indiesnooze."

Mad Max: Indiesnooze Road

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), 5. januar 2016 23:05 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that is the dumbest response ever. Take a look at the list again, my friend. Perhaps google some titles.

I've seen all but one of movies on the list. There is definitely some American indiesnooze on it, but not at a greater % than the rest of the lest. Bigger issue is most of the movies are by directors who have done far better stuff.

Actually two (I haven't seen Goddard or Margaret).

See Margaret!

And make sure you watch the Director's Cut.

Good to see Like Someone in Love, The Immigrant and Uncle Boonmee.

I've only seen the short (150-minute lol) version of Margaret and find it to be one of the best films of the recent past, so I can only imagine how I'll enjoy the DC

the theatrical cut is superior imo

Her is twee garbage

i have no need to see the theatrical cut because the untheatrical one is one of my favorites ever probably; it's definitely imperfect and almost sloppy at points but i can't imagine how one could cut it to make it better. maybe it's a whichever-you-see-first deal.

i had only seen the extended cut til a few days ago -- theatrical is at least as good maybe better simply for the sake of being shorter

HerLucy is the far superior ScarJo sci-fi flick, imho

ok actually UtS > Lucy >>> Her

"Pretty cool list until it hits the top 10 then it becomes american indiesnooze."

Mad Max: Indiesnooze Road

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), 5. januar 2016 23:05 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that is the dumbest response ever. Take a look at the list again, my friend. Perhaps google some titles.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In terms of cast most of those films have some very recognizable names, were given wide releases = NOT indie

carol is the best film of the last five years? zzz.

hmmm? it's 11th on the poll, unless you're talking about an individual ballot.

btw it's a bunch of mentions that get high placement on these, not a ton of #1s. I see only one #1 vote on LWL for Under the Skin and two #2s, all from female writers as it happens.

I find votes for Amour the most inexcusable.

Wrong again.

Just like that Uncut list that Cosmic Slop shared the other day, there really isn't much representation here for more recent work. There's barely anything here from 2016-2019.

Amour is the least grueling of his movies.

nope

"hmmm? it's 11th on the poll, unless you're talking about an individual ballot."

was looking at the LWL list.

that's for the year, not the decade

In terms of cast most of those films have some very recognizable names, were given wide releases = NOT indie

― xyzzzz__, 6. januar 2016 10:33 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, that was true in the nineties...

Although that division is much harder to maintain in film. Frances Ha = indie, while The Master = not.

Frances Ha was produced by Scott Rudin and distributed by a subdivision of AMC. The Master was produced by Annapurna and distributed by Weinstein. None of them are exactly Upstream Color.

none of that has to do with relative quality, of course, despite Frederik's dogma and some of the truly bad European films he likes.

xpost thank god for that

I'm hoping we collectively forget Spring Breakers in about 10 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfOXE19C08

Hey, I've begun to like quite a lot of small American cinema lately. Tangerine will prob make my top five of 2015, and I like films by Josehine Decker, Alex Ross Perry, Ana Lily Amirpour, and I do like Upstream Color. Hey, I even like the new Tarantino :) I use 'indie' pejoratively, because I don't find a lot of what is described that way to be independent in neither production nor spirit. And I include Greenberg in that.

Just out of curiosity, what are the worst European films that I like, morbs? I'm guessing Lars von Trier, but I kinda feel that doesn't count.

i'm not jaymc with a list

i did think your "Arabian N

ights is fine even tho most of it doesn't work" was sort of a new benchmark in scare-the-regular-folks-away cinephilia.

I really think there'll be a major reappraisal of the full Nymphomaniac a few years down the line akin to Fire Walk With Me. Of course I am generally wrong.

He. Okay, that was probably badly phrased. I did sell several Danes on seeing it, though, my review was very positive. That's a good film to bring up, though, because that's a film that really feels 'independent' to me. Made by collaboration, telling the stories of ordinary people (and dogs, and roosters, and princesses), and never being beholden to any genre or style. I think everyone should watch it, but over one day. It feels tough to recommend a single part of it, then you might get a princess walking on a cliff and 80 min bird breeding.

I think Lars von Trier will get a complete critical overhaul someday, when all the controversies has calmed down. He would probably have to die or retire first. But among other things, he was a pioneer of digital filmmaking.

Dancer in the Dark as the predecessor of Leviathan. #Thinkpiece.

I was thinking that Nympho might actually be his swan song given how difficult it was for him to write it (apparently) but now I see he has an eight-part TV series coming out this year. OK then!

If anyone wants a list of all the films that received votes:

4:44 Last Day on Earth (Abel Ferrara)
88:88 (Isiah Medina)
A Burning Hot Summer (Philippe Garrel)
A Separation (Asghar Farhadi)
Aaaaaaaah! (Steve Oram)
Academy of the Muses (José Luis Guerín)
Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer)
Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa (Declan Lowney)
Amour (Michael Haneke)
An Oversimplification of Her Beauty (Terence Nance)
Anabasis of May and Fusako Shigenobu, Masao Adachi, and 27 Years Without Images (Eric Baudelaire)
Animal Kingdom (David Michôd)
Another Year (Mike Leigh)
Arabian Nights (Miguel Gomes)
Assassin (Hou Hsiao-Hsien)
At Berkeley (Frederick Wiseman)
Attenberg (Athina Rachel Tsangari)
Autrement, la Molussie (Nicolas Rey)
Babadook (Jennifer Kent)
Before Midnight (Richard Linklater)
Beyond the Hills (Cristian Mungiu)
Black Swan (Darren Aronofsky)
Blackhat (Michael Mann)
Blue is the Warmest Colour (Abdellatif Kechiche)
Blue Valentine (Derek Cianfrance)
Boy (Taika Waititi)
Boyhood (Richard Linklater)
Bridesmaids (Paul Feig)
Camera falls from airplane and lands in pig pen–MUST WATCH END!! (Mia Munselle)
Canyons (Paul Schrader)
Carlos (Olivier Assayas)
Carol (Todd Haynes)
Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami)
Citizenfour (Laura Poitras)
Closed Curtain (Jafar Panahi)
Computer Chess (Andrew Bujalksi)
Cosmopolis (David Cronenberg)
Da Sweet Blood of Jesus (Spike Lee)
Day He Arrives (Hong Sang-soo)
Diary of a Teenage Girl (Marielle Heller)
Django Unchained (Quentin Tarantino)
Dogtooth (Yorgos Lanthimos)
Dreams of a Life (Carol Morley)
Drei (Tom Tykwer)
Drive (Nicolas Winding Refn)
Drug War (Johnnie To)
Eden (Mia Hansen-Løve)
Edge of Tomorrow (Doug Liman)
Enemy (Denis Villeneuve)
Everyone Else (Maren Ade)
Forbidden Room (Guy Maddin)
Frances Ha (Noah Baumbach)
George Harrison: Living in the Material World (Martin Scorsese)
Girl Walk//All Day (Jacob Krupnick)
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher)
Girlhood (Céline Sciamma)
Goodbye to Language (Jean-Luc Godard)
Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson)
Greenberg (Noah Baumbach)
Hard to Be a God (Aleksei German)
Her (Spike Jonze)
Hill of Freedom (Hong Sang-soo)
Holy Motors (Leos Carax)
Horse Money (Pedro Costa)
House of Tolerance (Bertrand Bonello)
Hugo (Martin Scorsese)
I Wish (Hirokazu Koreeda)
I Wish I Knew (Jia Zhang-ke)
I’m Still Here (Casey Affleck)
Illusionist (Sylvain Chomet)
Immigrant (James Gray)
In Jackson Heights (Frederick Wiseman)
In the Family (Patrick Wang)
Inception (Christopher Nolan)
Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson)
Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen)
Inside Out (Pete Docter)
Iron Ministry (JP Sniadecki)
It Follows (David Robert Mitchell)
It’s Such a Beautiful Day (Don Hertzfeldt)
Jauja (Lisandro Alonso)
Journey to the West (Tsai Ming-liang)
Kill List (Ben Wheatley)
King of Pigs (Yeon Sang-ho)
L for Leisure (Lev Kalman, Whitney Horn)
Laurence Anyways (Xavier Dolan)
Le Havre (Aki Kaurismäki)
Let Your Light Shine (Jodie Mack)
Leviathan (Andrey Zvyagintsev)
Leviathan (Lucien Castaing-Taylor, Verena Paravel)
Li’l Quinquin (Bruno Dumont)
Like Someone in Love (Abbas Kiarostami)
Lincoln (Steven Spielberg)
Listen Up, Philip (Alex Ross Perry)
Lobster (Yorgos Lanthimos)
Locke (Steven Knight)
London: The Modern Babylon (Julien Temple)
Lone Ranger (Gore Verbinski)
Look of Silence (Joshua Oppenheimer)
Louie, “Elevator (Part 1-6)” (Louis CK)
Love is Strange (Ira Sachs)
Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller)
Magic Mike XXL (Gregory Jacobs)
Maidan (Sergei Loznitsa)
Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan)
Mars Et Avril (Martin Villeneuve)
Mary is Happy, Mary is Happy (Nawapol Thamrongrattanarit)
Master (Paul Thomas Anderson)
Meek’s Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt)
Melancholia (Lars Von Trier)
Midnight in Paris (Woody Allen)
Moebius (Kim Ki-Duk)
Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson)
Mr Turner (Mike Leigh)
Mysteries of Lisbon (Raoul Ruiz)
Night Without Distance (Lois Patiño)
No Home Movie (Chantal Akerman)
Obvious Child (Gillian Robespierre)
Once Upon a Time In Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch)
Oslo, August 31st (Joachim Trier)
Out of the Furnace (Scott Cooper)
Pacific Rim (Guillermo del Toro)
Phoenix (Christian Petzold)
Poetry (Lee Chang Dong)
Post Tenebras Lux (Carlos Reygadas)
Romancing in Thin Air (Johnnie To)
Rust & Bone (Jacques Audiard)
Second Game (Corneliu Porumboiu)
Senna (Asif Kapadia)
Ship of Theseus (Anand Ghandi)
Skin I Live In (Pedro Almodóvar)
Snowtown (Justin Kurzel)
Social Network (David Fincher)
Son of Saul (László Nemes)
Spectacular Now (James Ponsoldt)
Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine)
Stoker (Park Chan-wook)
Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley)
Story of My Death (Albert Serra)
Strange Case of Angelica (Manoel de Oliveira)
Strange Colour of Your Body’s Tears (Bruno Forzani, Hélène Cattet)
Stranger by the Lake (Alain Guiraudie)
Stray Dogs (Tsai Ming Liang)
Stuart Hall Project (John Akomfrah)
Tabu (Miguel Gomes)
Take This Waltz (Sarah Polley)
Tangerine (Sean Baker)
This is Not a Film (Jafar Panahi)
To the Wonder (Terrence Malick)
Tomboy (Céline Sciamma)
Toy Story 3 (Lee Unkrich)
Treasure (Corneliu Porumboiu)
Tree of Life (Terence Malick)
Trip to Italy (Michael Winterbottom)
Turin Horse (Béla Tarr)
Two Days, One Night (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne)
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer)
Valhalla Rising (Nicolas Winding Refn)
Viola (Matías Piñeiro)
Wadjda (Haifaa al-Mansour)
We Are the Best! (Lukas Moodysson)
We Need to Talk About Kevin (Lynne Ramsay)
Wind Rises (Hayao Miyazaki)
Winter Sleep (Nuri Bilge Ceylan)
Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese)
World of Tomorrow (Don Hertzfeldt)
Yellow Sea (Na Hong-jin)
Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow)

i preferred Nymphomaniac to most of the above (tho he retreated to Bad Lars by the shitty ending)

Nymphomaniac was spring 2014's best comedy.

Danish tv showed the 5 hour directors cut on christmas day. Could be a weird tradition.

Frances Ha was produced by Scott Rudin and distributed by a subdivision of AMC. The Master was produced by Annapurna and distributed by Weinstein. None of them are exactly Upstream Color.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

Not knowing this, but its also what I mean = aesthetically Frances Ha could be said to be indie but not in the background as to who has put up the cash, all made to market.

#millennials

A Separation (Asghar Farhadi)
Carlos (Olivier Assayas)
Maidan (Sergei Loznitsa)
Li’l Quinquin (Bruno Dumont)
Blue is the Warmest Colour (Abdellatif Kechiche)

^ These should've made the final list.

We should do a 2010-2015 poll sometime during the year.

idk what my life is going to be like in the next few weeks but I could collate the results and someone else could do a rundown (I don't do caps and crap like that)

i had the same thought, lets do it imo

no

Gotta happen now.

We'll do the 2016 poll first.

I wouldn't mind if only to see what our non-American posters nominate that isn't distributed here.

I said critics I RESPECT

His ballot, btw:

Armond White (National Review)

Man of Steel
The President
Wild Grass
Vincere
Queen & Country

I've never heard of The President--unless, in a typical Armondian touch, he's listing the current President of the United States as the second greatest movie of the decade (behind Zach Snyder, natch).

It's a lesser Mohsen Makhmalbaf film.

Philip French gave 'The Lone Ranger' a sympathetic review https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/11/the-lone-ranger-review

FWIW I think it's pretty good, but does have problems, not least the whitewashing of Johnny Depp as Tonto.

Indulge me while I ridicule the two Toronto voters I spotted: Liz Braun, who was literally a gossip columnist when I last paid attention, and Peter Howell, who went from being a terrible a rock critic to--again, from what little I read by him when he started out--a terrible film reviewer.

Were people specifically instructed not to vote for documentaries? Quick scan of the Top 75 and I don't see any. That makes no sense to me.

I'll stop whining; I see a number of films I love, led by #4 and #5.

I don't know the writing of the two Toronto critics you mentioned, and I'm in no hurry to check them out, but their ballots are not embarrassing. I don't know what The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby is, though.

re docs, in the top 30 I see The Act of Killing and No Home Movie.

Well..."a number" = four. And another dozen I like.

(I still remember Howell's hand-wringing the first time he got a Sight & Sound best-ever invite. The problem wasn't that his list was bad, it was that I didn't believe anything on there--the accompanying comments seemed to indicate a preoccupation with making "correct" choices.)

Thanks--I scanned quickly, missed them. Would be nice to see at least one Wiseman on there; he had a great decade.