What sounds cutting edge in 2016?

keith rowe & graham lambkin - making a

― ANU (sisilafami)

if this was made by anybody else, would it have been released? i thought this one was pretty bland, what are your thoughts on it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItMJtA8vfpw&feature=youtu.be

if this was made by anybody else, would it have been released? i thought this one was pretty bland, what are your thoughts on it?

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n)

Devin Disanto is nobody but his stuff gets released and is comparable to making a, so yeah.

I have no thoughs except that i enjoy listen to it.

As I've been reminded this week, Bowie's '70s output is a pretty good perpetual answer to this question regardless of year. Particularly the Berlin stuff.

I have no thoughs except that i enjoy listen to it.

so much for music discussion. the disanto/hoffman recording is dynamic and eventful, with structured activity, and an abundance of novel, sometimes jarring sounds.. it's puzzling, with elements of narrative and exposition. there's a liveliness to it. while Making a is comprised of sound events, there's nothing really interesting about it. i can't argue with your response, but there's a marked depth and coherence to three exercises. Making a is really hard to engage with, in comparison

I think 'making a' is as eventful, it's just that sometimes you wanna listen to something quiet and soothing.

http://asystems.co

More please.

the cutting paper w scissors thing turned out actually pretty prescient w the whole ASMR boom.

Saw Lotic DJ last night in the side room of Tresor and he played mostly r&b and rap anthems mixed with edits of his own and lots of that post-dubstep-post-footwork "experimental club music" you can find all over Beatport and it sounded both really out-there and really fun. I was expecting simply lots of horrible noises so I guess I should check his Boiler Room?

Lotic has done nothing but bore me to tears and write irritating posts about PC Music but if it's the future then it's the future I guess

I need to listen to this Elysia Crampton...Rev, did you listen to the E+E album that was getting some hype once upon a time...?

("this"...I meant "some")

boxedjoy, his own records are much farther out than his dj sets, the BR set is very enjoyable.

Yeah it was my boyfriend who wanted us to go and I was expecting it to be like that "when you play Lotic at a party" meme video tbh so I was really surprised to be hearing Rae Sremmurd and Rihanna - not even edits, just played straight

How very revealing that Imago finds a post denouncing racism and homophobia to be "irritating".

I forgot we actually did this two years ago so no sense in going back over old ground I suppose.

how very revealing? fuck off

it was all the stuff about insincerity that painted the actual music of lower worth that was irritating

racism and homophobia need to be called out wherever they exist. this is so obvious and true I can't quite believe you're flinging such poisonous murmurings my way

and if 'imago is a bigot, I read his Fader rant' is a thing now, then sure my posts there were totally wrong and misguided but at the heart of it was a disdain for The Fader as a shitty hipstery music-as-fashion sooo woke yah sex is so great yah these people singing about sex is so sexy they just want to impose their young sexy sex on us and we should be honoured superiority complex disguised as a magazine

...rather than disdain for people of any race or culture or orientation

Anyway, back on topic, Elysia Crampton is kind of awesome and has always grabbed me much much more than Lotic.

imago much love but you did start throwing shade at lotic completely unprompted, so your shock and awe at other people "flinging poisonous murmurings your way" comes off as slightly disingenuous.

Racism and homophobia need to be called our wherever they exist, as long as it happens in a way that doesn't disparage music you like, in which case it becomes so irritating that you have to bring it up two years later for no reason.

Like obviously I don't think you're about to go out and join a far right organisation but you do appear to have a number of under-examined cultural prejudices that could perhaps bear a little more examination before you hit send. Rather than realising and apologising after the fact, as usually happens.

no defending gfoty rly and the calling out itself was fine. the attacks on the music of pc music were irritating as shit and completely tangential to the necessary calling-out. bringing it up now was probably a dick move but seeing lotic described as the future of music based on their playing rae sremmurd in their dj sets is sufficient provocation? idk. pick my battles better I guess

anyway, when it's 2019 and I'm describing Lotic as the saviour of electronic music we'll all look back at this and laugh

the cleaning edge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PakAiTZWAs

namaste

"future of music" is pushing it. Hearing modern pop brush up against these ~avant-garde~ club sounds and make sense in the context is all I was getting at in the thread that seemed to have the most prior mentions of Lotic.

I mean I can hear these pop songs in any high street club and I can rummage on the Funkysouls UK Funky thread for this grime/ballroom/dancehall hybrid stuff but to hear the differences between them reduced to almost nothing was the exciting part for me