David Bowie's roundly maligned, nazi cocainey live album, STAGE: Classic or Dud?

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“Anyone who’s playing ‘Beauty And The Beast’... You know they get erections.”
- R. Fripp

niels, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the studio"Beauty and the Beast" may we'll have been the track that started it all for me. The introduction of Fripp's Sky Saw guitar is just so unbelievably alien, followed by the pounding piano and rhythm section building to a crescendo before the verse comes crashing in is an all-time moment for me.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

In other words, what Fripp said.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

"Are you listening to "Beauty and the Beast" or are you just glad to see me?"

willem, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

"Oh! Oh!"

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

having had the ryko cd for so long, all those 'rock' tracks on heroes have always sounded kind of messy and tinny and weird to me.

akm, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

This was my 1st Bowie album.

WilliamC, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

xp really think the 2000s reissue/remix/rework is an improvement over all earlier versions

tylerw, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Is this album called STAGE because of the Elvis album ON STAGE?

Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

that's half a heroes pose!

niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:00 (eight years ago) link

eheh. indeed not far from the heroes cover !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:08 (eight years ago) link

and on Bowie RIP thread was suggested a rumour that Elvis had reached out (?) for Bowie to produce an album for him

niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:25 (eight years ago) link

there's this part during an interview with Conan where he was talking about Elvis (starting at 1:10) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4d8QrRJvsE

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link

musically, I could imagine something circa young Americans/Station to Station.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link

lots of fun clips in that one

niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

(xpost) I imagine more like Bowie's version of "God Only Knows," i.e. not good.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

and on Bowie RIP thread was suggested a rumour that Elvis had reached out (?) for Bowie to produce an album for him

― niels, Friday, January 22, 2016 5:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I imagine this sounding like Scott Walker's Nite Flights tracks. Elvis was still in peak voice in '77, and likely eager to get off the treadmill -- sobriety in Berlin with Bowie would've done him a world of good. But the Colonel wouldn't have entertained such an idea for more than half a second.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

come on, "golden years" IS an Elvis track !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link

hey yeah that actually makes sense

niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link

ahah, this is so lame !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdGVbxqtCE

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

Not clicking, think I already listened to something like that.

Love this video of Bowie skulking about the Hansa studio playing/recording "Sense of Doubt":

http://youtu.be/IocSP9Mp-Dk

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

Think it's safe to suggest that had Bowie released The Gouster instead of YA it would have been more of a novelty/cult classic than YA... it's... kinda boring?

niels, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah, I was curious about that, having no idea what it was all about, but it's just some kind of alternate YA (no better nor worse, afaic).
there's something else that grabbed me on the new compilation.
it's the StS 2010 Harry Maslin remix : what's that ?
It's really different from the original mix.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah sry should have posted in the RIP thread, the Maslin mix is mentioned there - apparently it's more in accord with Bowie's original vision or smth?

niels, Friday, 30 September 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link

And it's TVC15, not StS, isn't it? I don't have the reissue to check

willem, Friday, 30 September 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

it's the whole album ! (yeah, I guess it's not the proper thread to discuss that)

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah it is the whole album! (It's on spotify)

willem, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link

http://www.network54.com/Forum/8980/thread/1474856664/last-1475166652/Station+To+Station+%28Harry+Maslin+mix%29

I found this discussion about it.
I haven't listened to the whole remixed album yet but I did notice that the drums were further in the mix and sound very different.
and many new things appear (like the "TVC15" intro, etc).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

Hadn't heard of this Maslin mix, listening to TVC now. Piano is pushed so far forward it sounded like a Professor Longhair record at the start. (A reference point I never picked up on before.) Will have to spend time with the rest.

Wants to impose Sriracha law in America (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 September 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link


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