Rolling 2015 Thread on Race

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the word "privilege" connotes an unearned success. so you basically want people to admit they got something they didn't earn themselves. keep in mind this is America.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link

I always figure that's a major component of it, yeah. People have to first acknowledge that concepts like fairness and justice and words like 'earn' and 'deserve' are all pretty much bullshit before they're able to acknowledge their own position in the web of bullshit.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

ppl need to stop thinking things can be earned

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

People will have to get to the point where they're like 'what even is a bootstrap and why did I ever think I could pull anything up by it' before any more meaningful change can occur.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

people are vacuous selfish fools who will believe any fancy that will justify what happens to others. hooray?

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

pretty much yeah

have heard the "well they're the ones trying to hijack the planes, not us" argument. to that I say, "okay, how would you feel if we had security checkpoints at schools that only white boys had to go through". I guess if you don't have a problem with that...

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

not sure how that even applies to the overzealous xenophobic airline passenger shit which isn't based on a no-flight list or even accurate ethnic identification, just a vague "don't trust ppl who don't look like me" impulse

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

as far as why Indian-looking folks ought to be "randomly" screened more often. which often gets justified as "I'm not being racist, I'm being realistic"

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Confrontation over dreadlocks on college campus goes viral

http://www.wcvb.com/news/confrontation-over-dreadlocks-on-college-campus-goes-viral/38755010

Tay, an artificially intelligent software chatbot (dandydonweiner), Friday, 1 April 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Today Dolezal is jobless, and feeding her family with food stamps. A friend helped her pay this month’s rent; next month she expects to be homeless. She has applied for more than 100 jobs, but no one will hire her, not even to stack supermarket shelves. She applied for a position at the university where she used to teach, and says she was interviewed by former colleagues who pretended to have no recollection of having met her. The only work she has been offered is reality TV, and porn. She has changed her name on all her legal documents, but is still recognised wherever she goes. People point at her and laugh.

j., Sunday, 26 February 2017 02:53 (seven years ago) link

lol ok cmon admit you thought it too

sleepingbag, Sunday, 26 February 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link

Was just coming here to post this.

Obviously, regardless of what I think of her, I don't wish homelessness/joblessness on her (assuming that she's being honest about these things). But it's still infuriating that she won't own up to any wrongdoing. Even friends of mine have been more apologetic, saying "was what she done that bad", and really, conflating identifying closely with another race with "appropriating a race through a creepy form of playacting for reasons of pure self-interest and career advancement" is nagl.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 February 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/rachel-dolezal-has-changed-her-name-1792867445

If only she had picked a name like “Susie Reynolds,” she probably could have found a job by now.

j., Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Rolling 2017 Thread on Race

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

rachel dolezal is so 2015 though

example (crüt), Sunday, 5 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

footnotes

j., Sunday, 5 March 2017 03:14 (seven years ago) link


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