Listening to 2015: A Collaborative Music Project for ILM in 2016

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Ooh thanks for doing the Singles Jukebox playlist, forks.

Jeff W, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

No probs; I'm looking forward to digging into it further myself! I listened to most of it but had month long periods of dropping out so now I'm gonna get thoroughly caught up.

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

yeah, they skew MUCH older and wider but it's not a huge amount of music and it's been so consistently rewarding that i definitely wanted it to be part of this project!

what I meant was, you're not going to include all the 2015 stuff mentioned in that thread during the past year? (if it's collaborative I can help adding them if that's too much work for you)

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

ah, i got you. That thread got too complicated for me to keep up with past a certain point so i had to let it go.
I don't really want to add much more of anything else but if you have a specific song or three; sure, let's do it! Otherwise, i'm gonna cite the above thread note:

I am acutely aware that even this goliath of a listening list is not genuinely comprehensive and that I'm missing any number of vital genres and artists here due to both rights issues and my own ignorance. But you gotta draw the line somewhere!

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Well there's a whole year missing so adding a couple tracks wouldn't quite cut it, but it's your project so I'll let you decide: I can try to add all the 2015 releases mentioned in the thread or we leave it like that and it's fine too because there's plenty of stuff to listen already (so far the Kaki King and Daniel Higgs are really doing it for me).

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link

Add em if you want! I wouldn't mind! Could you put them in a new list?

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

Sure, I'll do that.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

spotify blows, will spend 2016 giving money to artists i care about

trigger warning: your mom (mattresslessness), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

in exchange for something that won't disappear overnight in a merger.

trigger warning: your mom (mattresslessness), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

i'm gonna do both but i'm crazy like that

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

me too!
also as noted above:

Spotify is hardly the be-all-end-all of music indices ... but it has the added benefit of being very easy to search and manage, free and/or cheap, available in multiple countries and it just happens to be the service I lean on for at least 75% of my listening. It is also a service that makes subscription to playlists (and auto-updating/downloading tracks to a mobile playlist) easy. I'm under no illusions that Spotify may well not exist in five years but something similar will almost certainly fill the vacuum.

ulysses, Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

oh and hey, it's forks. I got tired of having eight gazillion thread bookmarks so in honor of primarily holing up in this little corner of ILX and to slim down and focus on just listening, I'm trying on a new login.

The reference, if it's not obvious, is to the arduousness of the quest ahead as we ride into the Sirens' path.

ulysses, Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

have fun in your video game

trigger warning: your mom (mattresslessness), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

i plan to! feel free to stop by if you want to play!

ulysses, Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

Here's the playlist for the 2015 part of the Post-Fahey thread:

https://play.spotify.com/user/moans%2Bfeedback/playlist/2jWJ8MVZJFVvdgLqR2rVAm

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 21 January 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, good cream for my coffee!

ulysses, Thursday, 21 January 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

i don't entirely know what I'm doing here so I'm going to make it up as I go along and then likely change my mind a half dozen times.

I think i'm obliged to backtrack a bit and address the first songs I listened to... so here's some time travel back to December with commentary.

I wish I was able to give voice as to why The 1975 piss me off. Like the 80's dance punk pastiche isn't inherently repellant; I have a fair nostalgia investment in that bank but there's a complete faking of the funk that feels so obvious and blunt about them... like everything was done with numbers and contracts and without anything so spontaneous as a fart without proper mic placement. I said this about "1975" on Singles Jukebox sometime back, I guess it stands: "In some alternate reality, there must be a world where “starts out Talking Heads, ends up Huey Lewis and The News” is a compliment. Not here, though; the wonky opening twenty seconds bought a lot of goodwill from me that was fast undone by Healy’s vocals."

1wayFrank is a young rapper out of Florida with a penchant for dancehall production and heavily altered/"autotuned" vocals. "Juggman" felt mostly disposable but "Make It Happen" has a real air of youth in the throes of aspiration and the lean and hungry look of the would-be dangerous man. He shares the track with an 18 year old rapper named Kodak Black who sounds a bit like baby Jeezy; he's not bad himself.

2:54 fall somewhere between gothpunk and dream pop or whatever; I dunno because it's all kind of dozy and nondescript to me. Never really gets out of second gear to burst. "Orion" is the single and I guess I see the appeal from a distance if one really doesn't like shit and doesn't wanna go outside but I imagine you could get the same effect by filling a kiddie pool with kleenex and crawling through it in a beekeeper uniform. If that sounds like a good time to you, I've got a band with your name on it!

I think this 2011 2Face Idibia / R. Kelly recreation of the earlier Shaggy collaboration from 2009 came up on the Afrobeat thread as a predecessor to Kelly's more recent duet with Wiz Kid as proof of Kell's long term interest in African pop. 2Face improves on the original in my opinion but this is a pretty minor song in any number of ways.

I may not have mentioned it, but the impetus for doing this slightly overblown and poptimistic take on Aristotle's 'last man to know everything there was' schtick was that I did a less far-reaching version of the same thing last year with a 2k+ list and that was so easy that I set my sights impossibly higher. I bring all that up because one of the first real discoveries on that 2014 playlist was 2NE1's CRUSH album; it was an early intro to modern k-pop, a genre I was (and am) sorely lacking broad exposure to. CRUSH is a dope (if front loaded) LP so I had high hopes that were only somewhat disappointed with "I Am The Best", which is a tetch too little soaring balloons and a bit too much farting deflation while we wait for one of the onomatopoetic marching sequences punctuated with a sonically diagonal "BEEEESST" that comes awful close to "BIIIITCH"... still worth a few listens and hanging onto though.

Urgh, this 2NYO track is sloppy and remarkable only in how discordant and underproduced it is. There's some solid diva voices under all that rancid icing maybe? Hard to tell.

3BallMTY are Mexico's unrelated triplet answer to Disclosure but, instead of mugging Detroit or Chicago, their tastes run closer to home and to the moment. "Quireo Bailar" has Becky G doing more English than Spanglish and 9 1/2 million views on YouTube and not much more under the hood than a four on the floor beat and that fucking cut and paste bari sax sound that has been pretty much everywhere since Macklemore and Flo Rida turned it into INSTANT HOOK! I saw these kids live a few years ago and the crowd ate them up with a spoon; they're pretty phenomenally popular.

To my shame, I think I had some vague appreciation of 3OH!3's SPRANG BREAK FO'EVAHHHH bullshit back when they ran with Ke$ha but to be fair, my main exposure to DON'TTRUST ME was Molly Pope's Ethel Merman-channelling cover. "MY D!CK" made the cut via the worst songs list and my god does it ever fit the bill. Dare you to get all the way through it even once. I'm not sure I ever did.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 07:51 (eight years ago) link

man, this is insane. in a good way, i think? best of luck, sir.

also, i'm anti-spotify, too, but mattresslessness, you're a dick.

alpine static, Friday, 22 January 2016 07:59 (eight years ago) link

this makes Fastnbulbous look like a disorganized layabout

alpine static, Friday, 22 January 2016 08:04 (eight years ago) link

b-b-b-b-but what about 2016???

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 22 January 2016 08:21 (eight years ago) link

ha, don't worry about me not maintaining the genre threads. My plan is to set aside a weekend afternoon once a month to update those in toto. How else can I keep up with what's recent?

BTW, the chorus to the 3OH!3 song is as follows: "Every time I look at my dick / I'm like / Holy Shit / That's a big dick / Every time I look at your dick / I'm like / Holy Shit / That's a small dick".

Seriously!

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link

do you have to listen to that song 3 times too?

Will v. Maim (Will M.), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

i know i STARTED it more than three times. You never know what you find if you pan for gold hard enough (get it, i said "hard") but a wise man knows when to cut his losses.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

Louie Vega's Dance Ritual Mix of 3 Winans Bros and The Clark Sisters' song "Dance" is such a vibrant hymn for those who sit in the front pews at the Church of Our Saviour Larry Levan (and come to think of it, this would be a great counterpart for L.L.'s version of the Joubert's "Stand on the Word"). I was raised something of a southern quartet purist and spent a great deal of time as a child in Bessemer and Memphis and Nashville churches in the 80's watching senior citizens just DEMOLISH the place by channelling the holy ghost. if you'd like a taste of that stuff, try hitting play on the following youtube with the Four Eagle Gospel Singers, but imagine these guys thirty years younger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcOLNNjeJo#t=20m20s

Those folks were second and third generation beneficiaries of the late nineteenth century/early twentieth push for classical-spliced-with-folk vocal instruction within the black american community; anyone interested in the history there is directed to this book co-written by my pops. I'm generally much more suspicious and unengaged by modern pop gospel with its focus on solo artists, downright disgraceful disowning of a spectacularly rich history and its heavy grounding within the black entrepreneurialism movement (all three of those are pretty easily linked with a bit of thought and I'd be happy to run with that conversation if anyone wants to have it). Mix pop gospel with house and I will likely cross the street to get away but somehow here all the dominoes fall just right and the uplift is truly uplifting, the vibrato's burr is like a cat purring, the falsettos soar and the build the build the build of it all is just in perfect balance. I don't know of a faster nine and a half minutes. Ultimately, this might be my favorite song of the year. I should probably listen to it again just to make sure.

credit where it's due: i heard about this track on (of all places) the 2015 Summer Jams thread and no less than our good friend mattresslessness from upthread called it his "track of the year"! Music breaks all boundaries; it's a beautiful thing mannnnnn...

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

I respect your insane level of planning and dedication to this project, sir. I have my own insane music listening projects keeping me occupied (currently working my way through every charting Billboard single from '65 through '77, having already done so for '60-'64 and '78-'93) or I might join in. But there's also the thing where I'm also hopelessly behind the times and don't even recognize most of the names of current music artists.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

I hadn't heard any 3BallMTY for about five years but Quireo Bailar is really fun!

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

I don't recognize a lot of these artists either! I get to know them post listen, so I'll certainly appreciate input from anyone better learned in a specific artist who wants to jump in and further enlighten us.
Godspeed on your own insane project, feel free to just listen to a track or three whenever the urge hits you and put in your two cents.

"Quiero Bailar" IS really fun but it wears out surprisingly quickly IMO.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

oh my god this 3OH!3 song

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

your dick's growing mold
my dick shines like gold
your dick's like the Pope
my dick don't get old

what the hell is happening here

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

What a disquietingly brilliant project. I can definitely get on board with this kind of crazy maximalist cataloguing. My own Spotify playlists are a labyrinth of horror so I'll be thrilled to work my way through at least a few of these, though I'm not sure I could hope to comply with peak rigour. I'll keep you posted on exactly when and with what and how successfully I begin.

tangenttangent, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

4Minute are an all-girl K-Pop quintet who have been around for about six years and are almost certainly more popular than your favorite band. Their EP release for last year was called Crazy and the highlights I worked through are the title cut, which is a bit too all-over-the-place for me; "Cold Rain", a melancholy ballad that would be a good fit for a video game character's breakup mix tape; and "Is It Poppin?" which is all wacky phone sound effects, plinky keys, Quad City DJ's bounce'n'percussion and G-G-GOING CRAZY. That last one is definitely a hit or miss track and there are times when I need it to shut the fuck up immediately but if the mood's right, it's excellent with a bowl of Fruity Pebbles as part of your complete breakfast. The band's next album is due in February and it's gonna have a track with Skrillex that'll likely get US play. Give it a listen so you can say you knew them before your kids did.

5 Seconds of Summer are frat boy dipshittery given corporeal form. At one point last month I was taking apart a desk to get ready to move and I almost broke my foot because after painfully suffering through "She's Kinda Hot", I simply could not take the Hungry Like the Wolf nods from "Hey Everybody!" and right around the time these assholes started singing "WE CAN ALL GET SOME / WE CAN ALL GET PAID / OH OH OH OH / OH AH OH OH OH", I just dropped what I was doing so that I could turn them the fuck off and the desk collapsed on me. So I guess what I'm saying is don't listen to this while you deliver a baby because you might well (and understandably) drop the poor thing when your patience with this nonsense flags.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

i would support a grassroots movement to make MY DICK the Donald Trump campaign theme.

Welcome in tangent squared! start wherever you like and chime in. I'm listening much further along than what I'm currently writing about; just want to give everything due attention. Hopefully I can knock out all the older stuff in a week or two.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

I have no clue what the chronological schematic of your brain looks like with regards to this, but I am starting in the month of 'Goth' and will purge various impressions here at some stage. Good luck on your quest!

tangenttangent, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

lol, yeah i think my plan is the craziest one: i'm gonna throw all the above lists into one and listen through alphabetically. Listening by genre feels like it would wear me out too fast. But I'm curious to hear what your experience is if you're gonna try that!

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

Let Me Find Out Pt. 2 with 5th Ward Weebie, Snoop Dogg and Juvenile is a polished sequel to a 2013 New Orleans booty clap hit with some much more famous guys on the track. It's not much more than the gazillionth retake on Triggaman and punchline snap raps but Juvy's bars are excellent: "lemme find out that big ol pussy is a beast / said it killed your baby daddy rest in peace to the deceased". Snoop seems a bit out of place and out of pace on something this fast.

6:33 are inscrutably hipster progrock that occasionally creeps into metal, leans into chiptune and just as often leaps with both feet into Pink Floyd territory. At its best it brings to mind Mr. Bungle for me and, though that's a zone I don't _always_ want to be in, it requires a deft touch. The album cuts that I ended up gravitating to are "The Walking Fed" (very Mike Patton-y), "Last bullet for a gold rattle" i(almost J-pop) and I'm A Nerd (which goes all over the goddamn place, including a faux hurdy-gurdy breakdown). Highly recommended for anybody who likes the idea of getting their banana split mixed up with their salmon salad.

Oh hey it's 8Ball, 25 years into his drastically underrated recording career and still dropping occasional gems. The definite standout on the album cuts I sampled was the regrettably titled Fuck Niggas; the steel drum hook is so shimmery and astonishingly good. "It's Music," (an old school, bass-guitar heavy duet with MJG) is more positive and laid back both in title and in tone. 8Ball and MJG and 3-6 were in heavy rotation in my hometown when i was growing up and I still love my Tennessee Titans.

ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link

I think tiptoeing through these playlists genre by genre is going to be okay when (like the Goth playlist) they're only 30 tracks long. We'll see if I regret this approach by the time I reach Jazz…

I'm all set up with folders and sub-folders. I have a 'That Sounds Cool' playlist for intriguing suggestions on this thread.

Goth finished. It was excellent! Will post loves/loaves tomorrow when I've given the seemingly decent ones a fuller listen. Pretty excited about this/taking it incredibly seriously.

tangenttangent, Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link

Er…yes, loaves. Dark, atmospheric loaves...

tangenttangent, Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link

butter those suckers up and share when you feel it.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 04:23 (eight years ago) link

No 2814, or are they at the bottom of the list because Japanese character set?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 23 January 2016 05:05 (eight years ago) link

Sorry for unwieldy hot takes format. I'm certainly no approximation of 'critic', but if nothing else, these thoughts can add to/detract from various search consensuses. For the moment I'm basing everything on the single song I've heard (2nd listen around), though may return to album discoveries when all the best have been properly filtered through.

GOTH

Negatives out the way first…

I really did not like In Letter Form, who present as some kind of 2015 IKEA mirror to Joy Division. In fact, I'm pretty sure they've nicked the main synth line from Atmosphere. By all means pay homage to your idols, but don't live inside their actual bodies, stealing their songs. It's not even bad, just offensively similar. Ditto City Calm Down who came dressed as Echo and the Bunnymen.

I liked more or less everything else. It's a fantastic standalone playlist. Highlights however include...

Född Död - Builds a cleverly creeping atmosphere of echoes and thuds. Beautiful! Her voice is beautiful! Synths are cascading out of underground fountains. This is Berlin exhibition opening night music at its best. (I haven't actually been to Berlin). This is sometimes horrible (i.e. so nice). Amazing start to the playlist!

Police Des Moeurs - The vocal mix in this is low and pretty while the synths are towering and triumphant. Really gorgeous. Energetic and spacey dreampop.

Publicist UK - Had skipped this in (I think) the album nominations playlist, mistaking it for generic indie rock when really it's much more involved and weird than that. Sounds like if early Biffy Clyro were a manic 80s Interpol with spoken word bits, which could be horribly cringey but it just builds so effectively. It's a bit like that one good song Ought did in 2014 before they became The Fall. Why do we end up loving the chorus? We just do.

Black Mare - Rich and urgent, but full of tragic sloping hooks. This is lovely! Her voice reminds me of Laurel from Exlovers because it sounds British, but apparently she's from LA. The cumulative impression is that of walking into your bedroom and it being covered inexplicably in vines.

Nicole Sabouné - Dramatic Goldfrappish female vocals and little jangly chiming sounds are great. It's all very cool. This song is begging to soundtrack the breakthrough film of an Aronofsky proselyte. It's quite simple really so it might wear thin… It's like Daughter if they were way way goth.

Boy Harsher - Gritty synths everywhere in this pacy industrial mantra-made-song. PAIN BREAKS THE RHYTHM. It's the longest track on the playlist at 7:19, but doesn't feel it. Glittering ceiling-height synths eventually peter out into a grimy bass pulse. Very hypnotic.

Makthaverskan - Had saved this previously off the tracks poll. It's just a great dark pop song. Excellent focal riff (sounds a lot like Paint It Black now I think of it), weird bursting female vocals. Comes and goes and comes and goes. Short and interesting throughout. Like a goth Sleater-Kinney.

Tarcar - Weird industrial clicking and droning. Bit of backmasking thrown in. Creeping woman. Lots and lots of atmosphere. The monotonous vocal is a bit boring and thin, but the arrangements are amazing. A great, juddering mess. What are these sounds? Is that an oboe? Hiding in the forest. Bit of discordant piano. Some whistling. Theremin? Horse? Clanger? Ghosts out.

Population - Cure mixed with something like Bear in Heaven. But still pretty great. It does sound like 'A Forest', but that's an incredible song and they've re-written it well so they can pass. This is so well-structured. He actually sounds quite a lot like Spencer Krug.

The Birthday Massacre - I didn't like their first track on here, but Superstition is kind of brilliant. This band appear to have been drowning in a bizarre purple Tim Burton aesthetic for the last 11 years (seriously, look at their album covers…), but this song is infinitely more sophisticated than that. Actually it's not. It features every single goth touchstone imaginable turned up to 11, but somehow it pulls together beautifully and catchily. The verses do sound a lot like Girls Just Wanna Have Fun though...

Viet Cong - Ah yes. I just don't think they will ever best this song. It's like a souped-up Lansing Dreiden. It's the best song British Sea Power have never written. There is a lot of singing and shouting and oh my god it has so many different compartments to fall into. It's so good though that you may get bored of it quickly and then rediscover it again a year later and shout about it, get bored of it etc.

tangenttangent, Saturday, 23 January 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link

i like your hot takes tangentx2! Your description made me queue up Boy Harsher and I'm glad I did; this is uber fantastisch, real ice queen led marching music for mopes! PAIN.... I LOVE PAIN...
I'll be referencing your responses as I bump into what you've found listening forward. I think maybe that's part of what I hope will come out of this: a searchable interactive guide for anyone who finds an obscure song and wants feedback . Dunno how useful that sort of a thing would be (i imagine not much to an ilx outsider), but there's something empowering about being able to engage with another sonic sojourner who can talk in an informed way about a tune that moved you both to joy or repulsion. It's almost like having friends. Or so I would imagine.

xp to CaAL - i swear that Spotify somehow organized 2 8 1 4 to the bottom of the list because I didn't hit it on my initial numbers listening... and then I opened the master list this morning and it bounced to the top! Weird. Anyways, I've added it to my immediate listening collection and will retroactively engage.

I might as well take advantage of the blizzard's "stay home and don't do nothing" psychological effects and continue grinding out reheated takes to get the flotsam and jetsam of #'s and A's out of my system. I interrogated a good 25 songs yesterday with +3 listens a pop which puts me sorta ahead of self-imposed schedule. Unfortunately I can't really listen to anything new while I'm trying to describe something old and (perhaps obviously) I need to relisten to what I'm writing about as I type. This may be a snow day in more ways than one.

However that brings up an interesting point for any pro- and semi-pro writers who stumbled into this attic: can you write about music without actively listening to the music you're writing about? Or one step further: can you write about music while listening to totally different music? Because that sounds like a superpower.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, great write-ups. Think I'm going to join you in checking out Boy Harsher, and maybe Född Död and Tarcar as well.

2 8 1 4 almost made my albums EoY list, but missed out at the last moment.

emil.y, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

I can't join in with this as I don't pay spotify subs (because I am skint & more likely to buy from bandcamp if I have any money) so multiple songs basically become unlistenable due to advert density. However I will try to keep dipping in and following up recommendations. I am also going to try paying more attention to the rolling threads as they happen this year.

emil.y, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Good! I am deeply pleased that we already have multiple different and positive responses on this project; it's encouraging.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

Nicole Sabouné's album Must Exist was quite good at first listen iirc.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 January 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

random feedback:

i like mr. bungle (and spike jones), but they have unfortunately inspired this school of "wacky" metal. ok, maybe this is a fair description of their first record, but i can't imagine 6:33 or any of these other guys doing anything like "desert search for techno allah". i quite like false metal, but i will co-sign "death to comedy metal".

if "2 8 1 4" is the best vaporwave has to offer, it's not for me. i attempted to read the atrocity exhibition last night. bad transgression. all surfaces, all anatomy texts and car crashes, nothing mundane or banal or human in it. i don't know if there are any vaporwavers who want to fuck ronald reagan, but the principle seems similar enough.

listened to tarcar two minutes ago and have already forgotten it. sometimes i want to forget without having to drink, though, so i don't think that's a criticism. i like seeing and hearing things and forgetting them for 30 years, 40 years, maybe forever. it seems like a luxury these days.

house gospel record was very good at all. kudos to mattresslessness for bringing it to ilm's wider attention.

i don't spotify (general distrust of "convenience") so will probably not hear most of this stuff firsthand.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 January 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

Rush: can i ask you to give this 6:33 track a shot on Youtube? I'm not gonna ryde too seriously for them but I don't really think they're comedy metal, more like... spongebob metal?
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk_kTkrKpaY";>6:33 - "I'm a Nerd"</a>

If I was going to suggest the best vaporwave has to offer, I'd point you toward nmesh, maybe nu.wav hallucinations?
https://nmesh.bandcamp.com/album/nu-wav-hallucinations-amdiscs
I recommend <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7inw4z2TWTM";>"A Face Without Eyes"</a> or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MWWp7_wlMU";>"EAT THE EGGS"</a> as fun entry points.

Spotify is purely optional on this project, as almost all of it is readily accessible with a google; it's just more easily streamlined if you're on that service. As has been said elsewhere on ILX, "obscurity now means you've got to click three times instead of once".

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

YOW! I gotta get better with my linking! Try that again:

6:33 - 'I'm a Nerd'

Nmesh - 'A Face Without Eyes'

Nmesh - 'EAT THE EGGS'

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

(btw, as far as i can tell, it was balls who first mentioned that Louis Vega Dance Ritual track on ILX... but one of the tenets I generally subscribe to here is that credit belongs to the artist, not the discoverer)

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

1. links still didn't work- gave me some weird message about youtube thinking i'm a bot or something?

2. "i'm a nerd" is the one i listened to!

3. honestly i think i like nmesh even less than 2 8 1 4. it's the ballard thing again. yes, i know media culture is artificial and creepy. orville redenbacher is uncanny valley. it's not an observation i find aesthetically compelling.

4. i wish there were records i could find by clicking three times. unfortunately i have hit the point where there are records too obscure for me to find on the internet, but i don't feel like this is the thread to namedrop (again!) private press '70s lps by power pop cult figures.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

i'm on the best-known private tracker, but i personally find it disappointing. doesn't have the breadth of the old blogs, like the much-missed mutant sounds. doesn't even have the breadth of youtube, which is probably the best place to find music right now. also, private trackers tend to have too much scenester jive for my tastes. i did the bbs thing when i was a teenager, but that was a long, long time ago.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 January 2016 01:03 (eight years ago) link

i miss the tofu hut, that was a REAL music blog...
yeah, whatever the old musicblog world lacked in completeness it certainly did obscurity well.

ulysses, Sunday, 24 January 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link

> Nicole Sabouné's album Must Exist was quite good at first listen iirc.

Miman is better, and as I've said elsewhere, is a stronger album than Chelsea Wolfe's latest (which I like, too).

Flesh emoji (Sanpaku), Sunday, 24 January 2016 08:27 (eight years ago) link

Hey, ulysses, I'm kind of in the midst of my own massive listening project rn, and so I can't fully accept your invitation. If you wouldn't mind, I thought it might be cool to pipe up with my own two cents whenever yours ends up brushing against mine, as it did recently with 2 8 1 4 ...

I wasn't planning on listening to that album for a few more weeks, as most of the albums I am checking out atm are either goth or sludge metal (that Nicole Saboune album might be in order soon), but I bumped it ahead so I could post a hot take here, and...I like it. A lot. I don't really know anything about the Night Bus micro-genre at all, but if it is even remotely related to the Burial track of the same name, then this album prob lands directly in the middle between that and, say, Peaking Lights' 936. It's way more chill than other albums like Alameda 5 and Suuns & Jerusalem in my Heart, but it is evety bit as oneiric, and tbh I hope it makes the albums poll, even though I didnt give it any points

Peaking Lights covers One More Time (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 24 January 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Also, I listened to Boy Harsher on soundcloud, that's pretty rad as well; some of the songer's exhortations towards the middle of the song verge on Alan Vega territory, which is always positive

Peaking Lights covers One More Time (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 24 January 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

maybe i need to go back to 2 8 1 4 later, given that everyone's very much into it... it kinda went over (or under) my head.

ulysses, Sunday, 24 January 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

Emo - done! Aided somewhat by the microscopic song lengths. Yes, I unashamedly love emo. I'll post in defence of that at some point along with many thoughts. My afternoon's listening is now clear for the albums rollout...

tangenttangent, Monday, 25 January 2016 12:37 (eight years ago) link

boy harsher rule! they played in my basement last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Th_rEonmDM

scott seward, Monday, 25 January 2016 12:54 (eight years ago) link

Punk

This collection didn't really live up to my expectations after the strength of the entire goth playlist. I found myself wincing through some of the more watery depictions of what should be a hugely expressive music. I guess the accessibility of the form makes it easy prey to lazier, more derivative songwriting, which is such a shame given the wild extremes the genre should idealistically catalyse.

Anyway, the worst of these included Protomartyr, who I tried repeatedly to get into last year on the insistence of trustworthy sources claiming it was inspired, only to find what to my ears sounds like a dingier Mission of Burma album.

Worst song award goes to Tenement's 'Sitcom Moms'. "You guys wanna hear some cool bullshit?", it spoken-word-begins. God no. Actually just listened again…it's sort of sweet. I couldn't say why. I think my mind got melted today with all the emo heightening my dopamine and weakening my standards.

No more complaining. There were a sprinkling of highlights, like those of Dilly Dally, who are 1 part Pixies to 1 part Hole, but with their own genuinely inventive melodies. She has some powerful voice too.

PC Worship - Woooo! This made my ballot (just). Or rather, the album did. 'Social Fiction', represented here, was actually my least favourite track (though still blinding). Lots of discordant, piling on of extra extra guitars and rhythm. The title track is the clear winner for me - it sounds like a Bioy Casaresian creation being cranked up to full ambiguous potential.

No Negative - This was cool. Like an early, lo-fi Sonic Youth. And just as you suspect they could use something extra, lots of nice spaceship landing sounds are introduced and it all gets very interesting indeed at the end. I like that Spotify barely recognises them as a band too.

New Fries - Spikey, no-wavey female punk. It manages to fit a lot of tonal shifts into the space of 2 minutes 18, in which 40 seconds comprise white noise. I always find myself laughing through that last bit.

I Hate Sex - Lovely screamo! The vocal was so unexpected when I heard this in the tracks poll. It's like Kathy Acker fed through Straylight Run's smoothie blender. She'd hate that…but this is excellent.

Hagar the Womb - Favourite find! Yes! Her weird, dissonant, half-spoken vocals are incredible. Those and some slightly unusual chord progressions really make this. Can't fully make out what she's saying, but I'm going to assume her politics are amazing and thus enable her to sing about 'bullshit babies' all she wants.

KEN Mode - Steve Albini is all over this. I liked it a lot before now, but didn't really get it until this weekend, listening on headphones as I entered a football stadium (as spectator) to certain defeat. As a spectator, I was defeated. As a listener, I was triumphant.

tangenttangent, Monday, 25 January 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link

it wasn't even a defeat in the end. maybe the players had been listening to KEN Mode too

I remember you was vote-splitted (imago), Monday, 25 January 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link

Oh, forgot to keep bolding.

Emo tomorrow. How is your exploration unfolding forks/ulysses?

tangenttangent, Monday, 25 January 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link

xpost

Reza had.

tangenttangent, Monday, 25 January 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Some of those sound great. I know you played them to me earlier and they kind of merged into a pleasant punky mist but I will certainly check a few of them individually

I remember you was vote-splitted (imago), Monday, 25 January 2016 23:55 (eight years ago) link

(Obviously PC Worship is the best, we knew this)

I remember you was vote-splitted (imago), Monday, 25 January 2016 23:55 (eight years ago) link

it's going okay on the listening front but i need more time to devote to typing! Will try to post a few reactions tonight.

ulysses, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link

new fries and hagar the womb are making it into regular rotation for me, though from my research it looks like hagar the womb are an '80s band?

diana krallice (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link

Thanks for the hot takes on the punk stuff; will refocus as I get there alphabetically! Listening wise, I'm at Angel Haze, so I have lots of ground to catch up on. Doing those polls is distracting!

It occurs to me I never mentioned it, but I'm making an effort (though I sometimes forget) to bold the artists and songs that stand out the most to me. Consider bolding a strong recommendation on my part... and if you wanna do the same, I like that shortcut!

47 Soul's album Shamstep was a major exciting early find in this project and something I find myself returning to fairly often. "Sham" is a reference to the historical name for the united Middle East, encompassing Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, which speaks to the multinational nature of the band and of the influences on display. There's a lot going on: dabke, hip hop, dancehall, gospel... and if that sounds like a mess, it would to me too but they pull it off! Lyrics are sung and rapped in Arabic and English; the mood is resolutely positive and upbeat and inclusive. Highly recommended if you like Omar Souleyman (more modern sounding) or EEK (less manic). I fell hard for the whole album but if you're only gonna try one track, maybe start with "Don't Care Where You From", which sounds like the MENA version of "We're All in the Same Gang".

16-Bit Lolitas' "Not the Only One" and 33Hz's "What I Can Do" are both solid house tracks but where 33hz overpowers the Lolitas with bass and immediacy and mixability, the former has greater depth and staying power. Both deserve a spin.

Along the same lines, I strongly recommend 1127's industrial prog-house track "It Never Drops", the intriguing opener on a compilation of indie pop and dance from the African diaspora on NON Records. No, it never drops; it vibrates and ominously hums and pops shots and hurks and jerks and hisses GETMONEYGETMONEYGETMONEYGETMONEYGETMONEY and generally sounds terrifying and awesome
Here's a soundcloud link for the non spotified
https://soundcloud.com/non-records-1/1127-it-never-drops

Che Chen and Rick Brown are 75 Dollar Bill and 75 Dollar Bill's "Cuttin' Out" is 15 minutes of neatly structured but near-abstract electric guitar gutbucket blues dominated by a single bass note that nails the thing to the floor and trance inducing Eastern percussion that levitates it to the ceiling. This is one of those cases where three listens was what did the trick for me: I was convinced the first time that this was some too-long gimmicky lo-fi nonsense, the second time it got under my skin and by the third play I was surprised it was over so soon. Hell, playing it again now, I just realized I really need to listen to the rest of this album; every other track on it combined is about as long as "Cuttin' Out"! Into the hopper it goes.
For the non-spotifying - https://75dollarbill.bandcamp.com/

And that's the numbers! Let's try the A's.

ulysses, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 06:20 (eight years ago) link

Congratulations on finishing the numbers! I'll definitely be searching your impressions as I go. I don't know how you've managed to take on so much as it is. I assumed you had eschewed sleep in favour of some meditative waking-sleep-music-listening operation.

Will bold from here on out! I've been veering off course a bit, but hearing new things on the album rollout probably counts too, right? Just preparing for mountainous eulogy on emo.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link

whatever path gets you up the mountain is good by me!
Yeah, i don't sleep a lot these days and i try doing this to be "productive" when i can't.

ulysses, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

I assumed you had eschewed sleep in favour of some meditative waking-sleep-music-listening operation.

misread this

jaggered little poll (wins), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

I can't say that I'm surprised that people care about modern music but I never knew to what extant until I just now clicked on this and the eoy list threads.

I heard a 2015 song I liked today. Not surprisingly it was from an old dude and I've never delved into ELO before. I also like the new Bowie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfH8EJA-hg0

The Once-ler, Thursday, 28 January 2016 00:46 (eight years ago) link

so maybe I can slowly work on an ILX Rolling Old People 2015 Spotify Playlist and add it here

The Once-ler, Thursday, 28 January 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link

i had no idea there was an elo album last year! Added to the pile

ulysses, Thursday, 28 January 2016 02:20 (eight years ago) link

I was trying to remember where I heard about that Amara Touré anthology, and I'm pretty sure now it came from one of your playlists. Cheers for that!

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 28 January 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link

you're welcome. it's SO good.

ulysses, Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

Hello!

thank you, based basics (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 February 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

work is making it where I haven't had a chance to talk up anything but the listening is continuing apace. I just knocked out the Angie Stone album and am chewing on Anna Caragnano (with Donato Dozzy) and Anna von Hausswolff. I may type a lot while I watch the superbowl over the weekend.

I am taking a lil breather for the rest of the night with this playlist collection of early polyphony. It's part of one of my OTHER OTHER projects: transferring my old high school era cassette tapes into playlists for quick reference and listening because my tape player has long since up and died and how else can I access this stuff in the sequencing I've become accustomed to in the core of my soul? The polyphony dubbed double c-90 set was a gift from a visiting scholar to my dad decades ago and it had no impact on him but it blew my mind and I used to play it to vibe out and fall asleep to through much of my early teens. Discovering that it was all on spotify makes me very glad; bless that obsessive cassette dubber for including titles and composers.

ulysses, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 04:15 (eight years ago) link

tangent, i look forward to you tackling the emo when you get 'round to it.

ulysses, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 04:16 (eight years ago) link

I'm still here btw (sort of). I've not had opportunity to post in depth recently (I habitually disappear, unfortunately) but I am keeping up to date with my listening. Almost finished time travel! I'll post more once atmospheric tectonics have reassembled a bit. I'll be catching up on all your recommendations too. Are people allowed sabbaticals for 'cultural engagement'?

tangenttangent, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link

Sure, the whole point of this is to do it on your own terms!

ulysses, Thursday, 4 February 2016 02:41 (eight years ago) link

As it came recommended from a number of different sources and since I found a few solid tracks on his first album, I felt compelled to slog through more or less the entirety of A$AP Rocky's prog-pop rap album AT.LONG.LAST.A$AP and my takeaway is that the future of glossy-magazine cover rap is no longer speaking to me. Duets with Lil Wayne ("M'$"), Schoolboy Q ("Electric Body"), UGK and Juicy J ("Wavybone"), Kanye ("Jukebox Joints") and the unlikely duo of Rod Stewart and Miguel ("Everyday") do little more than highlight Rocky's lack of charisma and star power. His very few solo tracks lean to somnambulance. I respect the desire to push the envelope and leap from concept to concept, but it doesn't bear fruit here. I have some grudging appreciation for the breathy pseudo-psychedelica of "L$D" (imagine Zappa-by-way-of-Blind Melon), but I don't think I found a real keeper beside the RIP YAMS elegy and Yasiin Bey duet "Back Home". All in all, a lot of work for not much fun.

No such problem with the Nigerian R&B/hip hop trio A'won Boyz light and lovely ballad "Forever"; this is nothing but pleasure from the first listen. Autotuned guest vocals from another West African star, Tekno (who, at this rate, I'll get to in early 2017) round the song out nicely.
Also HIGHLY recommended is the A'won Boyz take on Future's "Fuck Up Some Commas", which proves that tricksy little piano hook was missing just one or two more drum presets for maximum adrenaline density.
Get it: https://soundcloud.com/awonboyz/commas-come-and-go

Londoner A-Minor's "Be Mine" is perfectly serviceable, unremarkable club anthem sugar water with somebody named Kelli-Leigh on diva duty. I think the brits call this "bog standard"?

A-Villa's Carry On Tradition album is nostalgia packed with "rapper's rappers" lyricists, including Cormega, NORE, Big KRIT, Kool G Rap, Freddie Gibbs, Vic Spencer, Elzhi, Roc Marciano, Guilty Simpson, Freeway, Sean Price, Joell Ortiz, Killer Mike, Action Bronson, Ras Kass... and that's not half of them. There's also a penchant for wallowing in boom bap beats, lengthy transitions and skits that ramble on; "A Hustler's Soliloquy" ends with a minute and a half of the Omar and Brother Mouzone standoff. I'm almost disappointed in myself that this didn't grab me; there's something more cypher than song in the production, a certain leaden monotone to the beats that carries over from track to track. I appreciate the aesthetic at play here more than it moves me; by album's end I was hard pressed to remember any individual song. "Sucker Free" with Saigon, Joe Budden and BJ the Chicago Kid was my keeper by the third spin and, on listening to it now, it feels entirely worth fighting for but damned if I could remember what it sounded like before I hit play again.

A-Wax's Everlasting Money is admittedly frontloaded but those first seven tracks are as good as any hip hop that reached my ears in 2015. Dude's nimble, nasal voice reminds me of Ice-T; he's blunted and laconic even when he's lacing a track with autotuned interior rhymes. A-Wax has a declamatory confidence to his style that reads as world-weary, learned and burned. There's dull rage on "Been A Long Time", murder ballad self history on "Tried As An Adult", vindictive loneliness on "Smoke Alone" and nauseous desperation on "Never Saw It". He's deeply sad and deeply defiant; Beckett's cadence lurks just beneath the surface of every song: I must go on, I can't go on, I'll go on. Great music for bad times.

ulysses, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 01:31 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Believe it or don't, I haven't fallen off on the listening portion of this project... just the typing.

Gotten through about 700 tracks for the year and up alphabetically to Benjamin Clementine. The chances of getting even to "J" this year are highly unlikely. The experience continues to be highly rewarding though! I suppose I should double back and write about a few things in the A's though, see if I can get caught up so that writing echoes the current listening before the summer gets here.

ulysses, Monday, 21 March 2016 03:56 (eight years ago) link

The PC Music Vol. 1 compilation sweats saccharine to the point of nausea but I will admit an affinity for A.G. Cook's "Beautiful", spastic bleating thing that it is. On the other hand, "Keri Baby" spackled with Hannah Diamond's Speak-N-Spell rapping makes me want to break neon lightbulb tubes with a crowbar. Just line 'em up and let the celery crunch pops drown out the atrocity nattering in my ear. Not a fan.

A.KOR's "Always" is not especially memorable late 80's AC nostalgia rock put through the K-Pop mill.

I've seen Aaron Diehl play live several times at Dizzy's and at the mainstage at Jazz at Lincoln Center on his own or with Cecile McLorin Salvant; he's a top notch jazz pianist but I hadn't heard any of his personal compositions on tape. His 2015 album, Space, Time, Continuum trapped me for a few days. From the slinky title track (featuring vocals from the striking vocalist Charenée Wade), the assured virtuosity of "Broadway Boogie Woogie", the silky soft "Flux Capacitor" and the likely-to-be-a-standard swing of "Uranus", it's excellent top to bottom. If you're only going to try one song, make it "Kat's Dance", a secretive call and response duet with Stephen Riley on sax. Diehl isn't much of an experimentalist but if you have any love for post-bop, you won't be disappointed.

Aaron Watson is a Christian warrior and honky tonk lifer of the variety that dodges major label support but still lassos a few top 50 country radio filler tracks every other year. The Underdog is his thirteenth album and his first Country (and Indie!) #1. The breakout hit is "That Look", a cockeyed cowgirl-on-a-pedestal love song that celebrates without minimizing. "Getaway Truck" is worth a listen or two as Eric Church lite. I gotta admit the 'everybody dies' glurge of "Bluebonnets (Julia's Song)" got under my skin, mostly on the strength of Watson's painfully honest delivery. Wikipedia informs me Watson is a Ted Cruz supporter which is a bummer.

Abra's breakout album, Rose, is chillwave alt&B or quiet storm electropop or whatever the hell I have to call it to get you to listen to it; it's warm milk and kahlua is what it is. The lead vocalist/composer/namesake has a gorgeous voice and good taste.
Discussed a bit here: Abra - Rose
The album's great but front loaded; I would've been happier with an EP. Even so, don't miss the Aaliyah influenced "U Kno", the Pet Shop Boys pastiche of "Roses" or the one-two punch of Fruit and No Chill. I'd be surprised if Abra doesn't blow up in the next few years; this feels distinctly marketable in a way that, say, Kelela does not.

Absofacto's "Dissolve" is craftsmanlike fizzy pop with Scandi touches that made me think of Komeda. That's high praise from me. Be warned though: if, after a few listens, there's no aftertaste tempting you to return, well he did tell you as much in the title...

ulysses, Monday, 21 March 2016 05:02 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

Still doing this believe it or not.
this colin stetson and sarah neufield album omg

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 26 August 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Are you alphabetising by first name or last name?

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

first name as that's how it's organized on spotify.
I've gotten through about 1600 songs from the 1975 to Colin Stetson at the moment. Almost nine months! At this rate, I should be done by 2015 in 2018 which would bother me more if a) this was all I was listening to (it's not) or b) i wasn't finding great gems on an almost daily basis.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: taken as an aggregate, ilx's taste in music has about a 70% hit rate with me, which is pretty fantastic!

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Saturday, 27 August 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

November threw me out of whack (along with everybody else); at this rate, I should be about 2k songs and 130 hours of music down by the end of the year with another 6300 and 468 hours to go.
No reason to stop there as far as I can see tho'! Still finding great music on the regular so 2015 may last to 2019.

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link


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