the lounge jazz version of Sheltered Life is endearing
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
lou's faux populism is so good it's almost not faux. R&R Heart always has me thinking, "yeah, i don't like opera and ballet either! yeahhhh."
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
is this the same band as on Coney Island Baby...? It bears some sonic similarities, although this one gets a little more left-field with some of the distorted guitar tones and processed vocals, and the songs are simpler and lighter in general.
fwiw I do not like opera or ballet either lolz
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, that whole album is just killer. The one "Ladies Pay" about the ladies who miss their men at war especially gets me every time. And the piano! Oh god.
― To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
not sure if it's the same band as Coney Island -- i don't think so? maybe some of the same dudes. But yeah, this one does have some odd production choices. The superfuzz guitar on the title track is fun.
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^yes Ladies Pay! good stuff
Banging on a Drum rhythm track is fairly insane, was not expecting that from Lou
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm thinkin the drummer in particular sounds like the same guy... I should just look it up
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
ah. yes. the rhythm section + keyboardist are all the same
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah ... innaresting that lou plays all the guitar on R&R Heart, apparently?
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
let's take a minute to pay trib to this dude: http://www.iridescentmusic.ca/fonf.html
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
what is it about old men and terrible hawaiian shirts
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe it's just something that happens to you, you know? like you wake up one day and you've got nothing but hawaiian shirts in your closet. and it feels good.
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I think Hawaiian shirts are cool, actually, especially on older men.
― To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Friday, 10 April 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
but... you're onstage, not on vacation!
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
love these shirtshttp://z.about.com/d/classicrock/1/0/I/9/velvetundergroundc.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
someone told me that tai chi album he made was surprisingly decent ambient
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 10 April 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
umm it's ok? i mean, i'm not sure if i'd be super into it if i didn't know it was Lou Reed. but because i know it is him, I AM SUPER INTO IT. to a certain extent. I bought the fucking thing, anyway.
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
(well, d/l'd from emusic, which isn't quite the same thing)
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
those VU shirts are NOT hawaiian come on now!
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, you're right. i just like that picture. VU at the Zoo!
― tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Check out these Lou Reed acoustic demos from 1970, they are quite awesome:
http://croz.fm/files/category-lou-reed.php
― thirdalternative, Friday, 10 April 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
whoah!
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 April 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Grab 'em fast, I hear this site is getting shut down any minute now...
― thirdalternative, Friday, 10 April 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I love that pic, too, Tyler. Notice Lou's pants as well. He's got the best outfit of them all.
― To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Friday, 10 April 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay I'm gonna grab me these acoustic demos now. I've never had the courage to listen to his first solo album until now but I gotta tell you those backup singers on "I Can't Stand It" were a no-no.
― Lucking Faptop (Bimble), Saturday, 11 April 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
those acoustic demos are pretty good -- think i have them on one of those VU Ultra Rare Trax bootlegs. "Ride Into The Sun" is particularly nice. Lou's first solo album is fascinating, though not always in a good way. Hard to know what kind of sound exactly they were going for?
― tylerw, Saturday, 11 April 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I was thinking of Follow the Leader here - that sorta Headhunterish jazz-funk groove. very odd. also is it me or do the lyrics namecheck Ornette?
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Convinced Bowie ripped off the feel of that track, rhythmwise, for "Look Back in Anger"
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah the first time I heard "Follow The Leader" (long before I'd heard the rest of the album) I was shocked. It wasn't exactly what I was expecting from Lou Reed, and damn funky. I'd only gone looking for it because of the song on the Velvet Underground Quine Tapes by the same name which absolutely killed me, albeit in an entirely different way. Shakey have you heard that?
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link
One thing I only recently realised is how much he depended on Velvet outtakes during his 70s solo years. The debut album is almost all VU material. Transformer is, what, about half VU material. Even Berlin is about half VU songs! As late as Street Hassle in 1978, he's still pulling out old VU songs from the bottom drawer.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Really??? I don't think of Berlin as borrowed from Velvets material at all.
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Certainly not Street Hassle.
Men Of Good Fortune, Oh Jim, Caroline Says II and Sad Song were all first done by the Velvets. The title track is also recycled.
It's got Real Good Time Together on it
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
"Men of Good Fortune" is a Velvets' song?
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, according to Wikipedia it is... although I've never heard it. You can hear the Velvets doing Oh Jim and Sad Song on Spotify though...
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, I know they're from the Velvets era. Amusing that "Kill Your Sons" on the acoustic demos thing is a fairly naff protest song! Also that Lou was "Looking Through the Eyes of Love" in 1970 but "Looking Through the Eyes of Hate" by 1973.
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link
xpostA little bit of googling leads me to this site http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/andsoon/lostsongs/lostsongs.html
which says there's a tape of VU doing Men Of Good Fortune in 1966
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Love the least-to-most-colourful arrangement of those shirts!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay, I'll give you "Real Good Time Together", but where is the Velvets version of Sad Songs, for starters? Don't leave me out of this. Ah fook, here were are with this Spotify thing, though. I can't get Spotify. Jeez, way to kill the joy.
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll get it my own way, never mind.
Version of "Sad Song" on the expanded edition of "Loaded" with Lou going on about castles and kilts!
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I imagine in those days it was one of Lou's embarrassing Dylanesque protest songs
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Sad Song actually sounds pretty good as a VU song. You could imagine it on the third album or something.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I had a problem because I couldn't find my copy of Loaded for awhile there. Totally panicked before I finally figured out where it was. Sorry that I don't remember this or understand why it's not on my iPod. Gonna fix this right away.
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
downloading all the Lou material from that site!
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, not all of it.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Alright, listening to this Velvets version of Sad Song now and yeah I remember this, but without all the strings and grandeur, it really ain't much.
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"Love Makes You Feel Ten Feet Tall" on the other hand...yikes.
<3 <3 <3 <3 Lou
― Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that version of "Sad Song" is great!
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
before the streaming age you could 99-cent copies on Amazon
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
No doubt!
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
wow even Discogs has nothing below $2.99 plus shipping, still too much!
― sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
Mistrial >>>>> Berlin
I love how Mistrial gets dismissed most often for "dated production" when fucking Bob Ezrin's despair-on-mothballs arrangements don't scream the seventies, and the songs suck.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
Now, you've gone too far.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link
The currents rage so deep inside us This is the age of video violenc
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link
mistrial is up there with take no prisoners as his funniest record
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
the best video everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiyX70ZqsVQ
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
"Growing Up In Public" is a hoot too.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link
I think the time is ripe for an "Alfred's 80s records challops" thread
and I wish that it be a cheerful thread
― niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link
I thought this was that thread?
Preferring Mistrial to Berlin isn't a challops. A B or B- is a better grade than a C+ or C.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 September 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
I meant for a thread to include more artists than Lou!
― niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link
idk i can't agree with alfred on berlin, outside of the arrangements all the songs on it seem v well written to me
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link
the (relatively) recent concert movie was v rewarding
― niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link
I don't know Mistrial apart from the two singles, which are OK. But Berlin is an album I've lived with all my teen/adult life and means an awful lot to me, melodramatic orchestration and all. I hadn't realised until recently though that half the tracks were recycled from VU days. It's amazing that he was recycling VU tracks right up to Street Hassle and maybe beyond.
Listening to the eponymous 1972 album right now and it's sounding pretty good, albeit sort of Loaded II
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
^Right?
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Friday, 21 September 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
I suppose Street Hassle's ranking might uh rankle.. It's not much beyond the great title track.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link