I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

HIL WILL MAKE THE TRAINS RUN ON TIME

I have encountered literally NOBODY who supports Sanders for sexist reasons

Idk man I am voting for Bernie but all those "Bernie is a true jazz intellectual, Hillary is a wide-eyed naïf who listens to Kenny G" memes scan as sexist to me

I like "blowharding" from that Jeb clip above. He could be in Clipse: "Been two years, like I was paddy wagon cruisin'/The streets was yours, you're blowhardin' and Ted Cruzin'."

http://i.imgur.com/kKNxxxx.gif

omg

wish that were seamless

Those memes are false-flag creations of Hillary's campaign.

JK

if you look to the left corner beyond the Cruzerciser, you can see Warren (Parallax) Beatty

i thought the music memes were dickish and unclever, but not sexual harassment which is a phrase that has some specific implications that should be protected.

Maybe I've been on ILX too long but the memes I saw felt like they were clowning themselves, with both Hillary and Bernie being assigned absurd words you would never actually see coming out of their mouth, like views on Radiohead. If there's a punch, it's that Bernie has elaborate nerdy positions on things and Hillary tries to say what's popular, which is, idk, kinda fair game for a political cartoon? Would 100% believe that some sharers are totally buying it in part b/c of sexism though, where it aligns with rock vs pop, masculine vs feminine, serious vs superficial.

But I also get a lot of 'Anarchists For Bernie Sanders' content so I'm used to seeing words put in his mouth where the gag is that he wouldn't say them (in that instance, to demonstrate that Bernie's not really radical because a real radical would say X).

haha yep, a lot of the "real" (lol) leftists over at, i don't know, counterpunch or something have no use for bernie

Cruz has a left side?

oh Bernie is no socialist (see OWS3 thread), and as Perrin tweeted (whoosh) you have to be a sociopath to want to be imperial manager. But y'know, fuck all the others.

Sanders activist friend on FB:

Bernie: "There's nothing wrong with being a moderate. Some of my best friends are moderates."

The memes seem particularly dumb bc Sanders' reaction to most pop culture questions is "who gives a shit why aren't you asking me about income inequality?"

YOU DON'T LIKE THAT SHE HAD CERTAIN NOW-UNACCEPTABLE POLICIES BACK IN THE '90S? HEY, I GET THAT THAT SHIT SEEMS LIKE LAST WEEK, BUT IT WAS ANOTHER GODDAMN WORLD ENTIRELY. I GET THAT WE ALL THINK WE'RE THE UNIVERSE'S BESTEST HUMANS BUT MOST OF THIS COUNTRY JUST LEARNED TRANS PEOPLE EXIST, LIKE, YESTERDAY. LET'S NOT PRETEND WE'VE ALL BEEN THE MOST INCLUSIVE PROGRESSIVE SUPER-COOL PEEPS FOR LIKE A THOUSAND YEARS NOW. PROGRESSIVE MEANS JUST THAT--PROGRESS. SHIT THAT WAS A BIG GODDAMN DEAL AT THE TIME IS NOT COOL NOW. PROGRESS. IT'S FUCKING SWELL.

lol yeah xp

can relate to the above because my dad, in the 1990s, occasionally used inaccurate and degrading language to refer to trans people, and my mom occasionally imprisoned more people than stalin

I like the argument that the worse you were in the 90s the more progressive you are now.

xpost i know right, how times change. millenials don't possess the capacity to recognize the changing of times, that's the problem basically.

Lol: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/03/donald-trump-says-ted-cruz-stole-victory-in-iowa-caucuses/

Foreshadow of things to come

Thanks, Lloyd!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/lloyd-blankfein-bernie-sanders-218689

I like the argument that the worse you were in the 90s the more progressive you are now.

― conditional random jepsen (seandalai),

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/bill_clinton_playing_videogames-2217.gif

Lol: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/03/donald-trump-says-ted-cruz-stole-victory-in-iowa-caucuses/

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:48 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like this could be the first step in trump's long-planned exit - blame the process, blame a conspiracy of enemies, shake head mightily, reluctantly bow out citing the impossibility against this vast machine etc. etc. but it could also just be trump being trump and he'll never quit until the last primary, who knows.

jeb please clap moment was intentionally funny idk what everyone is going on about

Trump: "I'm trying to be a little more understated and statesmanlike--some people like that, some people don't." Sounds like he's not too enthusiastic about it himself.

Idk man I am voting for Bernie but all those "Bernie is a true jazz intellectual, Hillary is a wide-eyed naïf who listens to Kenny G" memes scan as sexist to me

To me they are a repeat of the 2008 "Barack Obama is your new bicycle" / "Hillary is mom jeans" memes.

Those were based around Obama being the new hotness and Hillary being lame and basic.

🤔

For all the whining Trump's been doing today, he may have a legitimate grievance--sounds like Cruz (or "his people") knowingly told voters that Carson had dropped out when he/they knew that wasn't true.

It's so hard to choose sides when you want to see both these guys humbled and embarrassed.

That isn't electoral fraud.

Garden variety clown car dishonesty.

Maybe I've been on ILX too long but the memes I saw felt like they were clowning themselves, with both Hillary and Bernie being assigned absurd words you would never actually see coming out of their mouth, like views on Radiohead. If there's a punch, it's that Bernie has elaborate nerdy positions on things and Hillary tries to say what's popular, which is, idk, kinda fair game for a political cartoon? Would 100% believe that some sharers are totally buying it in part b/c of sexism though, where it aligns with rock vs pop, masculine vs feminine, serious vs superficial.

This was how I read them too but I may have been reading too far in.

Maybe I've been on ILX too long but the memes I saw felt like they were clowning themselves, with both Hillary and Bernie being assigned absurd words you would never actually see coming out of their mouth, like views on Radiohead. If there's a punch, it's that Bernie has elaborate nerdy positions on things and Hillary tries to say what's popular, which is, idk, kinda fair game for a political cartoon? Would 100% believe that some sharers are totally buying it in part b/c of sexism though, where it aligns with rock vs pop, masculine vs feminine, serious vs superficial.

But I also get a lot of 'Anarchists For Bernie Sanders' content so I'm used to seeing words put in his mouth where the gag is that he wouldn't say them (in that instance, to demonstrate that Bernie's not really radical because a real radical would say X).

― the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 22:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

I've been wrestling with the idea of writing a think piece along these lines but I just feel like it'd be splitting hairs and inviting arguments I'm sick of even though I've mostly avoided them so far

Anytime you (and I don't just mean you, RC, I mean "all of humanity") have an idea for a think piece, write it down on a piece of paper, burn it, and move on with your life.

Trump stage-managing his exit is literally the most foreseeable thing about this entire shitshow.

(with the possible exception of the Clinton machine/MSNBC Deanscreaming Bernie for as long as it takes)

Trump definitely sabotaging himself in Arkansas tonight:

http://i.imgur.com/HKfOC1A.png

http://i.imgur.com/B4WR4MK.png

Whenever friends tout Clinton's experience, I bring up dubious past Clinton positions/votes/statements, and those same friends who support her brush the criticisms aside, saying, oh, the times have changed and she's changed with them. When I point out that like him or not Sanders hasn't been swaying in the public opinion breeze that way she has, they really have nothing to say.

By the way, I was a little surprised (but not really) to learn that Clinton is still pro death penalty. Because of course she is.

I love this clip, a real guilty pleasure. This sassy insouciant side we rarely see except in private board rooms with Goldman Sachs investors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWbYF4460g

next debate question: "Would ya kill Snowden, Hil?"

Not very ethical. Starting to suspect Morbius isn't a real doctor.

Did anyone watch the NH "town hall" thing tonight? I caught just the last five minutes of Sanders's, with the charming-personal-question stuff. I thought he came off very nicely in that. I wonder how much of the impression of him as a grumpy grouch is his policies, and how much of it is that he does not mix in the stock private-family and/or "I met a recently laid-off grandmother last week in Poughkeepsie..." feel-your-pain stuff into his stump speech. I don't want him to do the latter, to be clear - I think a lot of his power comes from how clearly he feels his critique is too urgent to waste precious television minutes on fluff. Plus man would it be weird to be on stage unfurling family anecdotes day in and day out to tens of thousands of strangers. No thanks.

Lena Dunham used this "real results" shitphrase on behalf of Christine Quinn in the last NY mayoralty scrum. It must be in the HillChip that was implanted in 2012.

http://gawker.com/clinton-and-sanders-stand-side-by-side-screaming-into-1756952240

Those memes are literally never funny

Except the poop vs pee one

I know I'm soft, but I kind of feel bad for Bush in that clip (and I agree it's intentional humour) - he knows the game is up, no-one could watch him walk around that stage for 5 seconds and think he would ever be president.

He's half wondering, as he walks, whether it's a sin to pray that his father dies before finding out that his sons average a one-term president. He'd quite like to choke Marco Rubio to death, out in front of all the cameras.

But he always hates this part of the speech, he doesn't want to be the commander in chief any more than he wants to be Miss World. And Jesus, they can't even give him a decent last line: "to get back in the business of creating a more peaceful world" - what the hell is that?

$675,000? "That's what they offered."

http://gawker.com/hillary-clinton-s-awful-explanation-for-why-she-took-go-1757015538

"I wasn't committed to running." bye Felicia

haha I almost admire the effrontery

While Trump's Cruz-related hissyfit was executed in a juvenile way, I have also read that there's actually some shrewd calculus behind it.

Viz., Carson's evangelical supporters are indeed likely shift to Cruz, as the next godliest choice. But they may NOT shit to Cruz if they're shown that Cruz is a dishonest, scheming asshole who stabbed Saint Ben in the back. Trump (the theory goes) doesn't necessarily hope to win over evangelicals himself, but he sure as hell doesn't want them all coalescing around Cruz. If that's the kind of 3D chess the Donald is playing, it's clever.

But personally I don't think he sees in any dimensions other than "is this about me, or is it about something other than me?" Anything that is not about Trump is anathema, and must be shifted so that it becomes about Trump.

um, "may NOT shift to Cruz." Unfortunate typo.

an election full of Nixons

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41785/ted-cruz-richard-nixon/

He looks so clammy. Nixon may have broke a sweat, but he never looked like he needed a bypass two days from now.

I find that my brain always wants to construct a portmanteau of 'squamous' and 'unctuous' as a descriptor of Cruz.