I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

bernie says he wouldn't end the drone program

yeah, it's why i won't send him $ or volunteer. (plus guns, Palestine, doing a bit w/ Larry David on SNL tomorrow, etc)

u are so holy

just tired and bored with bright shiny offices that don't mean much by themselves

not sure sanders saying he might use drones sparingly is quite on the same level as clinton's kissinger-approved warmongering, but i'll keep working on raising bob la follette from the dead to run in 2020

lol do u think when he got into office obama was like "use the drones casually"

i need to dig into what sanders was asked and meant by his drones answer -- not that any socialist would ever agree to weaken the people's arsenal. he's not going to get rid of the unmanned planes? or he's not going to stop making rocket attacks on pakistan, yemen, syria, lybia etc

a drone is just a plane y'all, i don't really get the fixation on them tbh. a president can illegally bomb a place w/o the robots

jewish media v excited today bc haaretz discovered the name of bernie's kibbutz

"use the drones casually"

surely there's a sign posted somewhere in the WH that says this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71YGvAZJNnL._SY355_.jpg

It made the WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/05/the-kibbutz-bernie-sanders-stayed-in-may-have-been-revealed/

xp

btw Angela Davis turned 72 last week, i think she'd make a fine running mate for Sanders

OR resurrected La Follette

a drone is just a plane y'all, i don't really get the fixation on them tbh. a president can illegally bomb a place w/o the robots

bc we're just like, so disconnected from each other man

i'd be down with the whole both-gendered Selective Service thing as a step to the end of American wars, if it wasn't Endtimes.

"use the drones casually"

surely there's a sign posted somewhere in the WH that says this

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 5, 2016 4:44 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speech writing department?

In an effort to solve the mystery of why Ted Cruz‘s face “revolts” him, Dr. Richard E. Cytowic, a professor of neurology at George Washington University published an analysis of the Texas senator’s facial expressions in Psychology Today on Jan. 1.

http://www.mediaite.com/weird/neurologist-analyzes-why-cruzs-strange-smile-disturbs-and-unsettles

v interesting interview here: http://www.npr.org/2012/06/06/154443665/how-the-president-decides-to-make-drone-strikes

i love that *his face just doesn't do what its supposed to do* is the medical analysis of ted cruz's face!

"use the drones casually"

surely there's a sign posted somewhere in the WH that says this

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 5, 2016 4:44 PM (7 minutes ago)

Speech writing department?

― Evan, Friday, February 5, 2016 1:53 PM (6 minutes ago)

In the planning room for his set at Big Ears?

No need for cheap name calling

https://49.media.tumblr.com/73ee637ba36791450a0da9f02f642776/tumblr_n5hd1zPUXE1qbjynwo1_500.gif

that should be Hil's line after Sanders' next "revolution" parry

lol

in a fur of course

$125 MILLLLLLION in speeches to the Arkansas Borgias

btw where does clinton's reputation as an effective deal-maker and "get-things-done" person come from? does she really have that long a list of achievements? or is it just some vague sense that having in been in politics so long (albeit unelected most of that time), she just kind of knows how it works?

to be fair, i have a ton of doubts about bernie sanders's effectiveness as a manager/leader. his politics are nearly impeccable, but he hasn't been a notably productive legislator.

whenever clinton is actually asked to name her achievements she lapses into incoherence and does unspeakable things to the english language. so color me skeptical of what appears to be her main "narrative" right now, which is that while bernie is the idealist, she's the one who can work with a republican legislature and get stuff done.

neither of their records in the senate is particularly noteworthy, hers just happens to be shorter.

and nobody's going to get anything done with Speaker Ryan's caucus, it's kind of a moot point.

i feel like 90% of the narrative of clinton's supposed effectiveness, seriousness, whatever is just a bunch of horseshit that has managed to hornswoggle even people who are repping for sanders (to differing degrees). i've been an adult, paying attention to national politics, since the second bill clinton term, and clinton is pointedly /not/ a particularly effective or achieved politician.

i mean hillary clinton.

unless you can conflate her husband's achievements (and "achievements") with her own

Bill's achievements are actually a laundry list of disasters

well, many of them, yes, hence the scare quotes.

Barney Frank's criticism stems from irritation that Sanders, in his view, didn't help with Dodd-Frank in 2009 or 2010, and according to Act of Congress, the best book I've read on the subject, he wasn't around much.

sanders' entire career is basically one long protest vote

yeah, my position is that we actually have /two/ uninspiring choices for the nomination, but i feel kind of lonely in that.

no i agree w/ that

at least i get to vote for feingold

I'm sorry!

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Sorry -- read that as Feinstein! lol

I'm looking forward to voting for Pelosi and Kamala Harris. If I could bring myself to vote for Hillz I would be hitting some trifecta of Dem women voting.

Cruz was said to have run the wrong way and was later seen naked and banging against the window of a locked dorm in an attempt to gain entrance.

http://i.imgur.com/iYzLwUl.gif

to be fair, i have a ton of doubts about bernie sanders's effectiveness as a manager/leader. his politics are nearly impeccable, but he hasn't been a notably productive legislator.

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, February 5, 2016 10:17 PM (33 minutes ago)

this article lists some fairly decent stuff

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

not particularly impressive imo. you want an impressive record you look at someone like Waxman, you look at people that get bills through committees, or people that actually *head* committees - Sanders is not that guy and Frank is largely correct as to why.

I mean being effective in Congress is about working the system, literally. It's building and exploiting relationships, seniority, arm-twisting, vote-counting, committee hearings, navigating intra-party squabbles, all that stuff. Things Sanders waves away with his "revolution", which he doesn't even have Obama numbers/organization to back up.

at least i get to vote for feingold

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, February 5, 2016 5:35 PM (34 minutes ago)

feingold is still young, maybe we can draft him in 8 years

xp Its not like Sanders even had to deal with diverse constituents either since Vermont is crackerville usa

feingold's 62!

he mooted a run once, and abandoned the prospect. i suspect he just ain't interested.

oh wow why did i think he was like in his early 50s

he's kind of youthful-seeming, i guess. i'm surprised that he's 62, too! but he is.

Is Ted Cruz the biggest nerd to ever make a serious run at the Republican presidential nomination?