I mean, if you want proof, count the number of New Yorkers on the board versus the number of everywhere-elsers on the board, and note that there really isn't a huge stress/annoyance/happiness differential between the varied groups.
For the record, the entirety of New York City, not just glamourous Manhattan, is classic.
― Ally, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
New York is tranquility itself. The traffic is stately and placid compared to London's (is it fear of lawsuits? Why are US drivers so mandrax-calm?) and Tokyo's subway sardines make New York's look like business class. New Yorkers possibly get more upset because of their different sense of personal space ('If you can read my Times, you're too close...')
― Momus, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
And, Momus, I didn't realize this thread was called NYC vs. Tel Aviv.
― Nude Spock, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Let's see the inherent contradiction in your statement: you first make a big deal about how you can't judge NYC on "less than 5 years" (I assume in response to the posters who have said they've only lived here for a three years or less), then pointed out that because someone had a nice vacation in another city of a few weeks, it proves people are less stressed or angry or rude in those places? Riiiiight.
None of my friends had negative, stressful vacations in NYC. Two of them moved here based entirely on week-long vacations that were so great they decided this was the place to be.
― dave q, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kerry, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nathalie, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Is it true that subways in Japan have people to shove you into the trains?
― jameslucas, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jameslucas, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm going to restrain myself from commenting on the San Francisco comments except to say: please.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
haha, I am wearing the expensive black ass-pants in this family.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
From the G train!
― Benjamin (benjamin), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, but in spite of 9/11, it's wrong -- Los Angeles is the CCOTIA cf. Nathanael West, Steve Erickson, the end of Gravity's Rainbow, the Doors, Charles Manson, Miracle Mile, Lew Archer's "There's nothing wrong with Southern California that a rise in the ocean level wouldn't cure," and Phil Ochs'/St. Etienne's "The World Began In Eden And Ended in Los Angeles." Either that or Tokyo, cf. Godzilla.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
And yet I'm still going to say Classic.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
- Job gets crappier- Go out with girl only to get dumped- Hate roommates/apartment
Yep, still love it here.
― hstencil, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
And if California slides into the oceanlike the mystics and statistics say it willI predict this hotel will be standinguntil I pay my bill.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've never met a city I didn't like, really. There's too much stuff to get bored, even if it's just looking at the architecture and determining from it, from people's gait, from demographics, etc., something of the city's history and culture. The only city that's become even slightly mundane to me is Chicago--which is stupid, since it's such a huge place that even after 25 years of living here (with a significant 5-year interruption) I haven't seen even a small fraction of it.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Or maybe that's just me in Polyanna mode.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link