I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

you guys are going to declare every candidacy dead at some point

u know like the Republican party, w/ their stranglehold on 37 states

http://i.imgur.com/lcZ74ak.jpg

Thanks for posting that, your lordship.

This is one of the funny aspects of the dextrosphere's Obama derangement. On the one hand, his policies are terrible. On the other hand, he's incompetent. Theoretical Obama might do well to reply, "so we're good then?"

just as well i'm not a registered democrat, as my primary vote would mark me as either a sexist or antisemitic pig

that 6 minutes should finish rubio's campaign

With who, though? Republican primary voters or big-money donors?

it might have finished his campaign if he had any competition. does anyone really think christie or kasich or jeb! are going to be the candidate?

His robotics aside, Rubio's point only makes sense within the world of right-wing rhetoric -- where, a.) Obama's presidency is universally understood to be a failure of massive, historical, unprecedented proportions; and b.) at least part of the reason for that massive failure was his lack of experience and preparation for the job. The latter point then being a useful cudgel for any Republican candidate to beat up a less experienced Republican candidate. So Rubio's answer is that Obama's not a failure because he doesn't know what he's doing, he's a failure because "he knows EXACTLY what he's doing," and what he's doing is bad, bad stuff, on purpose, unlike the good stuff that Rubio will do on purpose if you will only vote for him.

― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Monday, February 8, 2016 11:17 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

does anyone really think christie or kasich or jeb! are going to be the candidate?

I think Christie could conceivably do it but who knows at this point

No I 100% get what he was trying to say, it just came out really badly in a subtextual way. xp

https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M8083bad8bd2fb1274973d36c308ff31ao0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

just as well i'm not a registered democrat, as my primary vote would mark me as either a sexist or antisemitic pig

― mookieproof, Monday, February 8, 2016 10:59 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

marked in what way? isn't voting still anonymous in the US?

Rubio comes across in that clip like he's tattling on Obama to his mom

isn't voting still anonymous in the US?

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/ted-cruz-shaming-campaign-3.jpg

lol

caucusing isn't voting btw

wow that Rubio-Christie exchange is like something out of the West Wing. And the way the whole thing unfolded made Christie look incredibly deft or just lucky: Christie spends several days attacking Rubio as a talking point memorizing empty suit, setting up the media to ask about the attacks in the debate, then Rubio comes up with a lame response and repeats it over and over. The best part is when Rubio starts for the third time, Christie is about to pounce until he sees that everyone knows exactly what's going on.

xxp Varying the score even by a point would make it look more authentic, but then I guess you're going for the "easily fooled by scams" demographic.

It's the third time he pounces, no? The fourth time he just lets it roll.

the third he says something like "there it is again" but then everyone starts laughing and he holds back

Ah, no.

to hell with all these clowns

my primary vote would mark me as either a sexist or antisemitic pig

Hil is allegedly a Cubs fan, use that

from April 2008:

Hey, Obama boys: Back off already!
Young women are growing increasingly frustrated with the fanatical support of Barack and gleeful bashing of Hillary.

http://www.salon.com/2008/04/14/obama_supporters/

I ain't no Obama Boy, I'm fierce

A FB friend of mine has made 21 pro-Bernie/anti-HRC posts in the last 24 hours

― I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 8, 2016 9:41 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i have a few friends like this too and they're every bit as infuriating as the hillary pushers

it is kinda frustrating to be in between partisans on either side when I basically don't like either of them

ain't no holla barack boy

i have 3-4 all-bernie-all-the-time FB friends, it is over the top

very few hillary pushers, most of the people i know who like her are okay with bernie too, the bernie supporters through are pretty visceral in their dislike of hillary

yeah the enthusiasm is def a bit one-sided

bernie is fine but there is nothing to convince me that he won't go the way of previous dem challengers from the left

my feed is overwhelmingly bernie-focused but lately i've noticed a few 'coming out' for hilary posts- mostly young women, and i think in part due to that CAPS LOCK article or whatever

bernie helped a guy who fainted iirc, or at least ran ten feet to his right to see what the commotion was about. this is according to a few Facebook posts i've seen about why he should be president.

though he will certainly need to run to his right if he becomes president!!

my FB feed is excited that Bernie yelled at a homophobe 21 years ago

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-rocky-horror/

i consider appearing on a TV show that hasn't been funny in 30 years "a move to the right"

that shit was embarassing. like all modern SNL political material.

i stopped watching when it got to the hand-shaking part

i miss these days:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/president-reagan-mastermind/n9509

The Totinos Pizza Roll commercial was fantastic, though

I joked to a friend that this is the first election where "It's not the Dead I hate, it's the Deadheads" is a major plank of a candidate's political strategy.

That said, what annoys me about some of my Bernie-supporting friends is not really the nonsense being stuck on them by Clinton shills (the "berniebro" charge or whatever) so much as how butthurt they get about every little thing -- the coin tosses, the "berniebro" charge, etc. I mean you have these obvious Hillary trolls like Amanda Marcotte making unsubstantiated claims about Bernie's base, but it's painful to watch Bernie supporters getting so drawn in by her and so frustrated about it.

Bernie's undeniable value is that by coalescing most of the progressive wing of the party around a policy agenda that's been consistently ceded to the opposition before negotiations even begin, he is making the voting strength of the progressive wing apparent, just as victories by people like Santorum and Cruz make the voting strength of the evangelicals apparent to Republican pols. This will encourage democratic pols to seize and hold this voting bloc more vigorously in this and subsequent elections. This effect will occur so long as he makes a strong showing, even if he loses the nomination. He especially needs to show well in swing states and states with a lot of electoral votes.

I'd like to think that the current tension is natural, it happens almost every time we do this, and I suspect it will fade without too many hard feelings. I saw Clinton stump for Obama - despite the bitterness of that primary race - and came away with warm feelings about both of them. Remember PUMAs? They weren't a factor (despite right-wing hopes that they would help defeat O).

I think about how weird it will be for Republican conventioneers to be raising their arms together and charging forward to the general election with... well, with really any of them.

Aimless otm, which is why I'm not too butthurt about Bernie. But he can't (and probably shouldn't) be president.

the lionizing of him as if he's Jean Claude Van DAmme in Bloodsport by some of my friends on FB has been offputting.

Aimless otm, which is why I'm not too butthurt about Bernie. But he can't (and probably shouldn't) be president.

― Οὖτις, Monday, February 8, 2016 1:46 PM (5 minutes ago)

really still trying to piece together why a proud nader voter thinks a guy like bernie "shouldnt" be president

i mean i get the argument from a moderate perspective, just not yours

Nader was a protest vote, I didn't think he would win, nor do I think he would have been a good president. Nor did I have any illusions about him carrying California lol. I wanted him to get a portion of the vote for the same reasons Aimless listed, and for pretty much the same goals - undermine corporate oligarchy etc.

tbh I kinda regret not voting for Gore, in retrospect he would have been so much better than Dubya, and he was hardly as bad as the Clintons. I sure hated his wife/PMRC though.

patriotic Gore!

your cali vote didn't matter tho lol, so don't sweat it

idk, i know i'm sounding like a broken record here so this is the last time i'll say it, but i definitely think hillary would be a more effective president. given the current composition of congress, and her/bill's history of working with republicans, that's pretty much what scares me

current decomposition of Congress you mean