I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

Morbs, you ready to watch the Miguel Estrada confirmation heroes?

They already have complete control. They have been shutting the gov't down in protest yearly.

The federal government has been shut down once since 1995:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown_in_the_United_States#List_of_U.S._government_funding_gaps

standard nyer provincialism thinking bloomberg is this goddamn miracle candidate

ie if Sanders by some miracle were nominated, Bloomfuck wd essentially be continuing a Clinton campaign by proxy. I believe Ed Scumbag Rendell already said he'd endorse him under those circumstances, and there'd be plenty more Dem defections where that came from.

the SC argument is good but it's just the tip of the iceberg. absurd amounts of time and effort are spent by democrat administrations in fighting lawsuits from industry and conservative groups trying to undermine regulations. it's incredibly boring stuff but a generic Democrat will at least make an effort to not lose ground. a republican president would just hire a bunch of ALEC dudes as agency consultants and proceed with the dismantling of regulations

hillary and sanders will have roughly the same pool of people to draw from in selecting federal department heads and that's a wildly different group of people than even a Kasich (the friendly and non-idiot Walker) would be picking

I kind of want to see Bloomberg jump in just to see him get the Brady-at-Superbowl-50 treatment

but no, that Bloomfuck whine would not travel well.

Miguel Estrada... reserve infielder for the Marlins?

Also, as we have seen the last two years, there's much a president can do w/exec orders.

does anyone have the ZIPS projections for these candidates

i only barely know who michael bloomberg is tbh

are you very confident about what kind of exec orders Prez Clinton II will issue? i think some of them might suck.

crut, come to NYC sometime, we can TP his mansion.

thank god for david brooks. SOMEONE has to defend obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opinion/i-miss-barack-obama.html?_r=0

"Imagine if Barack and Michelle Obama joined the board of a charity you’re involved in. You’d be happy to have such people in your community. Could you say that comfortably about Ted Cruz?"

sanders + cruz + bloomie and trump as independents. chaos!

anyone with a billion or two (or some $27 donations from normal ppl) can play

"Miss Barack Obama"

bloomberg-as-miracle-candidate is more a fantasy of the sad center-right coalition of technocracy fetishists, urban real-estate developers, libertarians, 'theater liberals' and the business-minded generally... which probably does overlap a lot with NYC, but i feel the nation's gay-tolerant Babbitts are legitimately lacking a great 'business' candidate... the problem is just that outside of new york they don't really have winning numbers, while a good portion of that coalition are perfectly content to vote for center-right democrats.

if he'd entered the republican race at the start, he would have gotten creamed like giuliani, and be competing today for jeb bush's dwindling voters. in the democratic race he offers very little that clinton doesn't offer, except minus the foreign policy baggage but plus the policing and inequality baggage. in an actual three-party race he could potentially serve as spoiler (at nader levels, not perot ones) if clinton were not the nominee. in the overwhelmingly likely scenario that clinton is the nominee, he offers basically nothing and nobody would vote for him. he has to realize that, so the only reason for him to make all these rumblings is to try and scare people away from voting for sanders in the primaries.

the alarming thing though is the increasing trend towards this trope of "independent billionaire strongman can solve the problems because he's not beholden to the other set of billionaires paying for his campaign." granted, it just further lays bare tendencies that have long been in play, but it doesn't bode well imho.

Sanderscare

ok lol

it's our version of the Benign Dictator fantasy xp

Sotosyn, i just looked up Miguel Estrada and have zero memory of that 'controversy'. what do you take me for, i don't remember this shit at the level of baseball or Iranian cinema.

should be Berniecare obv

there is no way it would be called anything but "Berniecare," let's get real. it just sounds so friendly. like even if he weren't named bernie, it's what the focus groups and the Innocent Smoothies image advisers would have come up with.

the alarming thing though is the increasing trend towards this trope of "independent billionaire strongman can solve the problems because he's not beholden to the other set of billionaires paying for his campaign." granted, it just further lays bare tendencies that have long been in play, but it doesn't bode well imho.

It works for Trump too. Just as long as we pretend money is not something these billionaires are beholden to, this train can continue to roll.

Innocent Smoothies image advisers

great phrases that make 0 sense outside of ilx

that's part of the allure of ILX

even as your personal life, career, and relationships go down the tubes, you can still come here and understand the Innocent Smoothies references

https://youtu.be/UHcD5-TGHvY

Innocent Smoothies is all I have left

thinking specifically of Oscar-brand health insurance and its unpleasant NYC subway ads:

http://content.mothernewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Oscar_Pants_Final2-01.png

i wish i were an oscar meyer wiener...

we haven't seen stuff like this since
https://714tickets.com/Images/Venues/Medieval%20Times.jpg

if you're christian, they chop your head off. if you're not christian, they chop your head off.

you can't win!

i only barely know who michael bloomberg is tbh

Played guitar with Dylan, iirc.

Tubular Bells one of my favorite albums

Supreme Court appointees are a good reason to vote Democrat. The Supreme Court has been excessively pro-corporate, so I think Sanders would put in better people.

welp here we go everyone

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/the-kids-are-for-bernie-but-are-the-kids-alright/461925/

For years now, a new leftist movement has been rising on college campuses. It speaks a new, radical language of intersectional identity politics. It is obsessed with social justice, with promoting the interests of the historically marginalized— and with policing its own adherents for their violations of its norms.

It has its own buzzwords, inscrutable to older generations of liberals: white privilege, rape culture, microaggressions, safe spaces. It has marched against its proximate oppressors, university administrations, and gotten college presidents fired; it has demanded apologies for the sins of the past; it seeks to exorcise the ghosts of Woodrow Wilson and John Calhoun. At a rally against police violence at Dartmouth in November, a protester screamed at a frightened girl, “Fuck your white tears!” They are the children of the children of the ’60s, and they are tired of being talked over and ignored. They are rebelling against the establishment, just as their grandparents did—only now, their grandparents are the establishment against which they're rebelling. They are the most liberal generation in American history, and they want their due.

Into this simmering mix has come Bernie Sanders, an old-fashioned class warrior with no particular ear for the new slang. He has sometimes gotten it wrong, but he is trying to learn. The new campus left has adopted him as its champion, and now he is riding the wave it has created.

thought I was gonna see your boy Freddie's byline

ah yes 'inscrutable' concepts such as white privilege

don't be so angwy guys

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35406324

lol, if anything the people that very dopey block quote is strawmanning have no interest in bernie or clinton, see above re: "anarchists for bernie sanders." pretty sure bernie's college-age voting numbers are way too huge to be explained by this comparatively small block of really self-consciously radical activists (especially in states and on campuses that basically do not have those people). the enthusiasm is from exactly the kind of generally left-leaning, optimistic, change-oriented college kids you expect to see on campus every single election cycle. see also obama 08.

it's somewhat personal for me because if a republican takes office my work will see massive budget cuts and the president will try to implement recommendations that come straight from ALEC.

Ok without knowing the specifics I have held federal and public sector positions during times of both Republican and Democrat. I worked with the IRS (on a contract) in the early Bush years, and recall seeing branches being shut down all around us. Due to budget cuts I and my co-workers were not asked back. I did some work for a CDC project later towards the W's 2nd term, and the same thing, budget cuts. This trend continued throughout Obama's election and subsequent terms. Every place I worked at that was public sector was constantly facing a budget crisis of some kind. Miss-spending can often be as bad as under-spending. Budget cuts are a fact of life. Budget cuts are an eternal thing.

I don't really care how Sanders plans to pay for any of his "wild" promises - we seem to find money for bank bailouts, corporate subsidies, a defense industry bloat just fine. I just like the idea of them being on the table. It was painful watching Obamacare happen with the public option just not even considered, and the insurance industry lobbyists openly writing both sides' arguments. This is the "bipartisan" politics Democrats love the dream about. What is the one thing that brings people together? Money.

stereotypically, sanders supporters are marxoid class-uber-alles types who are disdainful of identity politics while hillary supporters are unashamed identitarian types like sady doyle

but now molly ball is telling me it's the loud campus types who "want rights for gay people and trans people and people in between genders" and supported Emma Sulkowicz and "believe in freedom, but only to a point" support sanders

it's all so confusing!

srsly this election is so fucking dumb, and everyone who is involved in it seems to be getting dumber by the day

would we ever have it any other way

a protester screamed at a frightened girl

I like the way they verbally frame this interaction between two 20-year-olds as if one was an adult and the other was in elementary school

I want Sanders to commit to paying for his policies by printing money.

For years now, a new leftist movement has been rising on college campuses. It speaks a new, radical language of intersectional identity politics. It is obsessed with social justice, with promoting the interests of the historically marginalized— and with policing its own adherents for their violations of its norms.

thanks for the heads-up

the fuck is with atlantic's hatred of college kids

yeah no kidding

Surprised that passage did begin with, "A specter is haunting campuses..."

didn't rather