I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

stereotypically, sanders supporters are marxoid class-uber-alles types who are disdainful of identity politics while hillary supporters are unashamed identitarian types like sady doyle

but now molly ball is telling me it's the loud campus types who "want rights for gay people and trans people and people in between genders" and supported Emma Sulkowicz and "believe in freedom, but only to a point" support sanders

it's all so confusing!

srsly this election is so fucking dumb, and everyone who is involved in it seems to be getting dumber by the day

would we ever have it any other way

a protester screamed at a frightened girl

I like the way they verbally frame this interaction between two 20-year-olds as if one was an adult and the other was in elementary school

I want Sanders to commit to paying for his policies by printing money.

For years now, a new leftist movement has been rising on college campuses. It speaks a new, radical language of intersectional identity politics. It is obsessed with social justice, with promoting the interests of the historically marginalized— and with policing its own adherents for their violations of its norms.

thanks for the heads-up

the fuck is with atlantic's hatred of college kids

yeah no kidding

Surprised that passage did begin with, "A specter is haunting campuses..."

didn't rather

the Atlantic got its eye put out by a stray hacky sack

excelsior

It has its own buzzwords, inscrutable to older generations of liberals: white privilege, rape culture, microaggressions, safe spaces.

ooooh, buzzwords

why can't they use plain terms like we used to? good old "hegemony"? "dialectic"?

lol xp

sorry, that article is such a piñata. too easy.

http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

hm

the enthusiasm is from exactly the kind of generally left-leaning, optimistic, change-oriented college kids you expect to see on campus every single election cycle. see also obama 08.

Exactly this. And see also Clinton 92 for that matter. I was in college then, and was one of those kids.

And by the way, young people, there were articles in the Atlantic back then about how we were a generation of humorless Red Guards grimly devoted to "PC" and hostile to the true exchange of ideas and watch out America when we enter the workforce!

In conclusion, the Atlantic is not actually a land of contrasts

'If Sanders wins the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, as he is favored to do, it will be because of the youth movement he has inspired. It will be a stunning result in a state that has historically been friendly to Bill and Hillary Clinton, a dramatic overthrow of the Democratic machine by a rebellious new generation of liberals. And if nobody saw this coming, that may be because nobody was listening to what the kids were trying to tell us.'

Everybody saw this coming, he is the senator from the state next door. Next up: Stunning Clinton victory in Arkansas, how come nobody predicted this?

otm, explains howard dean's runaway NH victory 12 years ago as well

Uhm, that example does not disprove my point? Kerry from neighboring state Massachusetts won, and Dean did better than in Iowa.

the fuck is with atlantic's hatred of college kids

"Have you ever had LUNCH with one??"

http://www.legacy.com/UserContent/ns/Photos/Mostel_300x222.jpg

have you ever lunched on one?

hey fred he trailed her by 50 points in NH, what, 6 months ago

you know for someone only 4000 miles away, youre on top of things as if you were posting from Jupiter.

And a lot of people pointed out the predictive ability of primary polls that far out is pretty much nil.

Do people in NH really only like Bernie because he lives in the same region of the country? Usually people in one town hate the people in the next town over.

i don't think that's true outside simpsons episodes

That and sexism.

No, they like him for a bunch of reasons, but like Iowa demographics suit him well, many white liberals, and couple that with him being from neighboring state, and it's not really a stunning upset.

New Hampshire is probably jealous of Vermont for having a mildly more distinctive cultural presence than it has.

Al Gore lost TN in November 2000, so

Actually, he won with 92% of the vote.

Do people in NH really only like Bernie because he lives in the same region of the country?

Short answer: probably not. Sanders is an unconventional candidate, and his lead is also unconventional, even for NH. NH demographics are almost certainly more favorable for Sanders than he'll find in most other states, but it's not easy to summarize why. There's a good analysis here:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/new-hampshire-voters-sanders-clinton

Oh, wait, you're talking about the general election, even though it kinda has nothing do to with my point? Sorry.

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/whats-stake-new-hampshire-52330

Bernie Sanders: A big win in New Hampshire would show doubters that 40 years spent relentlessly championing progressive causes can pay off in a state adjacent to one’s own

Hillary Clinton: Just needs Earth to make a complete rotation Tuesday so that she can move on to South Carolina

reporters and a robot running after Rubio

http://gawker.com/exit-rubio-pursued-by-a-robot-1758037399

I lol'd:
http://www.nytimes.com/live/new-hampshire-primary-2016-election/rubio-joined-by-robots-on-the-trail/

domo arigato, marco roboto

haha

that a large segment of the MSM is on bended knee to Clinton Inc isn't a shocker to most of us, i'd guess, but the mechanics of this are intriguing/sickmaking.

"MUSCULAR"

http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058

do keep up, old bean

That and sexism.

No, they like him for a bunch of reasons, but like Iowa demographics suit him well, many white liberals, and couple that with him being from neighboring state, and it's not really a stunning upset.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:02 PM (42 minutes ago)

o cool, we're being lectured about our country's politics by someone who thinks "first lady" is a political position

Liar.

it's not a sexual position, either

the mechanics of this are intriguing/sickmaking

This is literally how every campaign consultant / PR person in this gross town does their job, if they're halfway competent.
But instead of being a story about how many political journalists are lame and pathetic, it's a Hillary story about how she's terrible.

And being a congress member is somehow better than being Secretary of State and First Lady of US and Arkansas.

Look: Hillary Clinton is the most experienced candidate. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise. She might not be a good politician, she's obviously too centrist for most of this board - including me - but stop arguing that she isn't vastly more experienced than Sanders. It's stupid.

― Frederik B, Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:45 AM (2 weeks ago)

i wouldn't describe the article as being particularly charitable to am binder xp

I would still like Freddie B to reveal what sort of political activity he would be engaged in, if he were a citizen living in the USA, including if he would register in one of our current parties and which one, and if he would be voting this year, and for whom.

JD: Where does it say that I think First Lady is a political position? Oh, wait, it doesn't. It's just that you're a dishonest liar.

Fred what are you achieving or hoping to achieve in American politics or American political threads I have to say bud its awful awful strange stuff this

if only there was a Danish politics thread we could clutter up with our ill-informed opinions