I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

if you were from ohio i think you wouldn't say that; he's a little more personally palatable than walker, but his policy ideas are similar; he just didn't have his way with the other branches of gov't that walker did.

― wizzz! (amateurist), T

Oh no doubt, despite his acceptance of the Medicaid expansion and saying he'd go to a gay wedding; we're talking margins of humanity. I know John Kasich b/c of two decades of sins: Gingrich foot soldier, advocate of the balanced budget amendment, host of a horrible FOX show in the early '00s, and Bono friend.

Kasich said some crazy hateful fundamentalist crap at one of the first debates. Fuck him

he's also ugly

what are the candidate stances on fingers in the booty

^^^^^^

xpost kasich used to have a tv show on fox news like back before obama was elected, and he came off as really obnoxious and shouty on it

so now on the gop side.. if kasich gets a bunch of money from this.. jeb! still has a ton of money, plus i guess rubio hauled in some after iowa, and now they're headed to south carolina where 1) ted cruz has prob a lot of support and 2) campaigns always get REALLY ugly

what are the candidate stances on fingers in the booty

― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:51 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I'm Done w/this Shit, Fuck All These Assholes"

what are the candidate stances on fingers in the booty

*nixon peace sign*

Watch if you can w/out hemlock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUzPvlNpaAg

Gingrich foot soldier

That's my overwhelming memory of him from the '90s. (That and rumours--he shared a house with a friend.) It'd be an exaggeration to say he was Ted Cruz 20 years ago, but he was a believer and an attack guy.

When he reappeared doing this warm fuzzy thing--never paid attention to his governorship--it was disorienting.

FOX calls Kasich in second place.

Thinking back to '08, it's funny how careful Clinton was to begin by congratulating Sanders. She was terrible at that eight years ago. You can almost see someone whispering into ear offstage, "Remember: begin with congratulations, begin with congratulations, begin with congratulations."

Clinton's concession speech is not bad. The first sentence addressing her future? Mentioning the citizens of Flint who have been poisoned -- her word -- by their governor. I tend to think this wouldn't have happened if Martin O'Malley had been her opponent.

should be exciting to see the rubians spin this

Hello? South Carolina?

what i want to know is which candidate can get the patriots their draft picks back

It always makes me smile watching Bill stand quietly to the side. You just know he wants to jump in and grab the mike: "What the fuck is wrong with you people?"

Give him time.

Gingrich is somehow more of an interesting person to me than Cruz, although that might be his public presence after just being a complete dickhead throughout the entire decade of the 90s. Cruz's #1 hobby seems like congratulating himself. #2 might be acting like a legal scholar?

#3 applying petroleum jelly to his face

You make a good point about Clinton's mention of Flint -- at the caucus I half-chastised one of her supporters by saying that even if she is the inevitable candidate (which seemed certain prior to that evening, to me) that keeping Sanders in the race would push the dialogue to issues that might not otherwise make it in a single speech.

Honestly, 2/3 of the Clinton supporters seemed like they were just happy to be at a caucus for the democrats, regardless of candidate. A fair number of Sanders supporters were in that boat, but there was definitely a Nader-esque (and dare I say it, Ron Paul-esque) contingent

good luck new hampshire

what are you basing this on?

a lengthy and competitive primary is good for the democrats imo.

i get that sanders is connecting more with white working class voters. listening to his speech now. talking about a rigged economy. was thinking before about the cnn pundits talking once again (like in 2012 and before) about angry, angry voters and how angry they are. and what a challenge it is when frankly as a female candidate you can't echo that anger in the same way. you just can't get up there and sound angry. it doesn't work

me? I was speaking of the Iowa caucus, talked to probably a dozen people at the caucus, and a handful before that evening that were at other locations

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well, if you're sarah palin...

what a challenge it is when frankly as a female candidate you can't echo that anger in the same way.

There's something to it. The Beyonce thread today glanced at those same questions.

I'm also shocked that self-professed socialist who probably has bad breath can espouse a $15 minimum wage on TV.

yeah this is what happens if you even sound disapproving while female

https://twitter.com/jack_welch/status/697245131754336257

sarah palin tanked mccain's poll numbers even before the market crash did

Sady Doyle currently busy explaining why comments like "Bernie is kicking the shit out of her" and comparison of a debate exchange to a punch from Rocky II Says Something about Sanders' supporters thirst to do physical violence to women. Nothing cynical about that.

and i mean mccain deserved to lose the election for among other things selecting palin, of course.

afraid to look at the beyonce thread! i got a ticket for her baltimore show today though so it's whatever, i'm happy

right, palin is unpalatable to 85% of people, i was sort of joking. she makes it "work" in her own fashion, since all her brand needs is to appeal to a small niche.

now they're headed to south carolina where 1) ted cruz has prob a lot of support and 2) campaigns always get REALLY ugly

Yes. I think Clinton's side will start amping it up immediately. (Ha--Sanders just said as much.)

what a challenge it is when frankly as a female candidate you can't echo that anger in the same way.

Trying to think of recent exceptions and couldn't. Bella Abzug's a little before my time...good point.

Maybe going a little long here. I guess he has to try to seize the moment.

i love sady doyle and the people who are saying those things should really think about how it sounds to be so excited to talk about doing physical violence to women. she's right.

i have noticed that a lot of men do not realize that comments evoking physical violence are not something, as a woman, i feel like i can afford to take as a joke and laugh off as figurative and exaggeration or whatever. i'm not going to ignore it like it's not a step toward actual violence because in this society it often is

politics has used metaphors of physical conflict since antiquity! female politicians use it all the time themselves. unless there's suddenly a disproportionate number of such references in the sanders/clinton race, i really don't think it means anything much.

i just don't foresee a time when we'll wipe political discourse clean of such metaphors, and i also can't foresee a situation when races with a leading female candidate somehow utilize a completely different set of metaphors than elections with two male candidates (or two female candidates).

i mean obviously it can go over the top, viz. palin's "bullseye" map of congressional districts. but i don't see that happening yet.

we're on to cincinnati

I'm also shocked that self-professed socialist who probably has bad breath can espouse a $15 minimum wage on TV.

I probably decided to vote Sanders today when I read his is the only campaign paying its interns.

xpost i can't believe you're looking for a way to gloss over those kinds of comments like they're acceptable. why?

One cease-and-desist order coming tomorrow from two elderly British gentlemen.

This thread should be named after this album (maybe the next thread in the series?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Promise_I_Will_Never_Stop_Going_In

as Trump comes on stage everyone chanting "build a wall, build a wall"

ugh so terrible

yeah, i don't think "well, it's always that way" is ever really a good justification. even if "both sides" are doing it, it'd still be a good thing if they stopped.

"Strong, incredible borders"--I didn't know borders could be so interesting.

Obama, Romney, McCain, Kerry, Bush, Gore, Clinton... angry guys usually don't get past the primaries.

I never thought the line between acceptable and unacceptable political discourse would be drawn to make the Rocky movies out of bounds.

I've stopped watching and have returned to rereading Anthony Hecht.

forty two percent unemployment