I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

There's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about how political parties can select their nominees. If you don't like the process, start your own party!

some/most superdelegates can switch tho, right xxxxp

yes, that essentially hasn't happened in 160 years tho xp

i think historically the superdelegates shift over to the repeated vote winner. but who knows!!

There's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about how political parties can select their nominees. If you don't like the process, start your own party!

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THE HIGH SMOOCH

part of the lie about Bernie Sanders "revolution" stuff is that he clearly has no interest in breaking two-party hegemony - which is the root of a lot of our structural problems (we would be much better served by parliamentary/proportional style representation imo, "more like Europe" lol)

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xp I loved that hoops clip!

xps if they were counting "already-committed supers" from other states those numbers make much more sense, carry on

yay just start your own party, it's easy! yay

basically plutocrats wouldn't find our democracy so easy to control if the two-party system didn't make it so simple

bernie grew up in brooklyn in the 50s-60s so i'm sure he hooped as a kid but his form is decidedly not bad for a 74-year old dude. i can definitely imagine him in a YMCA pickup game

can't believe he LIED this isn't a "revolution"!

going to re-think if Obama really promised "HOPE" or if he LIED too.

lol ok lie is kind of harsh - convenient fiction? wishful thinking?

campaigning?

Harking back a few dozen posts...

After many decades of watching developments in the Mideast, I can imagine that any US Secretary of State could privately feel extremely irritated with and negative about Israel without this in any way increasing their sympathies for Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLF, or any other Arabs who are in violent opposition to Israel. It would be more a plague on both their houses situation.

^bingo. it's called filling a lane

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bet bernie's a gunner (on the court)

we would be much better served by parliamentary/proportional style representation imo

I agree with that. Our constitutional system is far from the most democratic out there, although a lot more democratic than it was as originally conceived by the founders.

yeah for all of the public/collective fealty to our glorious Constitution, it would maybe be better to acknowledge that there is all kinds of fucked up shit in it (which, ironically, was also largely the view of the Founders) and that maybe it's not, y'know, some perfectly constructed piece of irrefutable, immutable genius given to this country by Jesus.

A parliamentary system here in the USA would put a big crimp in our imperial ambitions.

and what a terrible thing that would be amirite

the UK parliament was a real bulwark against imperialism

lol

can't believe he LIED this isn't a "revolution"!

changing the Dems from within would be a sort of revolution; i don't remotely see it happening before the 1% leave earth in their Space Ark.

actually it's a Space Schooner- oh no I've said too much

do you have a portside cabin?

who do i have to vote for to get the "humanity is doomed but my administration will invent the space ark and colonize distant planets" policy? gingrich?

Lyndon LaRouche? still alive, i checked

LaRouche's promotion of space colonization included dealings with German scientists and engineers who had worked under the Nazi government during the Second World War, some of whom had emigrated to the U.S. and had ended up working for NASA. They included Arthur Rudolph and several other Peenemunde rocket experts, such as Krafft Arnold Ehricke, Adolf Busemann, Konrad Dannenberg, and Hermann Oberth. When Rudolph was forced to renounce his U.S. citizenship after an investigation into his past, LaRouche supporters formed a defense fund for him. LaRouche also collaborated with Ehricke on ideas about the colonization of the moon and Mars; after Ehricke's death, LaRouche sponsored the "Krafft Ehricke Memorial Conference," and in 1988 delivered a national TV broadcast titled "The Woman on Mars." See Siano 1992, LaRouche Political Action Committee 1988, and King 1989, pp. 80–81.

"actually it's a Space Schooner- oh no I've said too much"

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/boston-herald-media1.jpg

ONLY ONE CANDIDATE HAS GOT THE END TIMES COVERED. https://www.facebook.com/notes/vermin-supreme/vermin-supremes-62-point-zombie-preparednessenergy-independence-plan/355143137842845/

Kerry, DJP and "JT" together again on the Space Schooner

part of the lie about Bernie Sanders "revolution" stuff is that he clearly has no interest in breaking two-party hegemony - which is the root of a lot of our structural problems (we would be much better served by parliamentary/proportional style representation imo, "more like Europe" lol)

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― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:22 PM (30 minutes ago)

how exactly would any candidate do this though? given that no third party has ever made much of a dent beyond a single election and that relatively few americans would be game for a second constitutional convention.

Hillary has proven she doesn't need my vote to win. I wish her good luck I'm sure she will do some good stuff in addition to being an evil vampire squid.

The two-party debate is kind of pointless. Plutocrats have run things since far before the US Constitution. They fucking WROTE that thing.

They tried 3rd party with Nader and everyone freaked out about not towing the Democrat line. Now they are saying the same things.

bernie grew up in brooklyn in the 50s-60s so i'm sure he hooped as a kid but his form is decidedly not bad for a 74-year old dude. i can definitely imagine him in a YMCA pickup game

― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:24 (35 minutes ago) Permalink

Totally, he's got old man game.

what the hell, from that Daily Caller link above:

In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders.

― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:15 PM (43 minutes ago)

tbh this is superdelegates basically doing what superdelegates were designed to do. they're a deliberately undemocratic device introduced in reaction to the post-1968 reforms that reduced party leaders' power to pick candidates.

yeah it was the count that threw me off, but it includes more that IA and NH, should have been more clear

that than

the most 'successful' third party right now is Working Families, which is just a guilt filter for liberals voting for humdrum centrist Dems.

they're a deliberately undemocratic device introduced in reaction to the post-1968 reforms

wasn't that post-'72, as a result of the McGovern crushing?

bc that's total "pledged" right?

Working Families would have to do a lot to earn my interest after backing Cuomo.

lol I voted straight working families ticket every election when I was living in NY

QED

i do wish the green party were a real thing here.

they are electing state reps and mayors here and there

@haaretzcom
Clinton to attack Sanders on Israel record after New Hampshire defeat http://dlvr.it/KSycjR

@ggreenwald
Do it! It will remind young Dem voters of things like this:

1) http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-rebuild-ties-to-israel-and-benjamin-neta/ … -

2) http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/hillary_clinton_taking_the_u.s._israel_relationship_to_the_next_level