I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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Yeah I mean things happen for reasons, so once they happen you can see the reasons. It's still pretty striking. I'm surprised at how much he connects with people outside the kind of upper middle class liberal circles that supported guys like Dean. When he first started to surge I thought that (and the college vote) was p much where most of his support would start and end, but IDK, he's got something.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

xp I can think of many reasons to be concerned in a general election, it's just that I've never seen an election like this with such a weird and (probably) weak GOP field and a lefty candidate at the same time. I wonder if people said that about Nixon/McGovern -- was Nixon a big surprise?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

Eh fuck it -- let's keep OBama in the Oval Office another four years.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Nixon was still popular even without rigging his election.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

we have had some demographic shifts since 1968, we'll see exactly what that means in electoral scaremongering terms

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

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if clinton had spent the last decade demonstrating that she'd learned something from the iraq debacle

How about if Clinton had spent the last 8 years demonstrating that she'd learned something from her 2008 run?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

once McGovern made his acceptance speech at 3a.m. and then waffled on jettisoning the veep nominee over his psychiatric history, it was p clear he was gonna get stomped. (it was likely in the first place)

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

we have had some demographic shifts since 1968, we'll see exactly what that means in electoral scaremongering terms

yeah, it'll be interesting. and nobody who is coming near the GOP nomination has anything like the insider support or sheer staying power of dick nixon. but still, i worry that all the stuff that bernie is (honorably!) doing to distinguish himself from clinton would be fodder for an incredibly, disgustingly reactionary GOP general-election campaign like we've never seen. (of course, i still don't think sanders will get the nom, but we're in the realm of what-ifs.)

sadly, i can easily see bernie making some mcgovern-like mistakes.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

I can see a lot of centrist Democrats bailing on the election & not voting if Bernie is the nominee. Seems more likely than Bernie supporters bailing on Clinton tbh.

tlopson (crüt), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

He would never accept Clinton as a veep.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Centrist Dems who bail are not Democrats. They are morons.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

^^^

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Third Way types will help in the election of a dangerous conservative mountebank.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

yeah i don't see that happening at all

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

yeah i don't know that i see out-and-out bailing after months of Trump/Cruz running a general campaign

do think a centrist third party candidate could make waves if it ends up being sanders v. trump/cruz tho

franklin, Friday, 12 February 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

By wave do you mean "Chris Matthews thought pattern"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

fair enough. I can see a lot of morons bailing on the election & not voting if Bernie is the nominee. Seems more likely than Bernie supporters bailing on Clinton tbh.

tlopson (crüt), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

would be kind of funny to hear left-wing democrats have to give the "just hold your nose and vote, remember the supreme court!" lecture

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 12 February 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Jon Schwarz ‏@tinyrevolution
I wonder if the "counsel" Clinton's received from Kissinger includes "if someone like Sanders is elected, overthrow them in a military coup"

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Centrist Dems who bail are not Democrats. They are morons.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 12, 2016 2:52 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anyone who bails because they don't like the candidate enough is a moron imo. There's always a better choice and a worse choice. If it's Hitler vs Mussolini, you vote Mussolini.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

I have a standing joke that those two are going to be reanimated by the Ds and Rs for the next election, and the rest of it gets offensive

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

a sanders/trump/bloomberg election would be the strangest in nearly a century, not only because 2/3 of the candidates would be nyc jews.

more thought experiments: would bloomberg take away more votes from sanders or trump??

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

sounds like more of a sit down joke

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

Jon Schwarz ‏@tinyrevolution
I wonder if the "counsel" Clinton's received from Kissinger includes "if someone like Sanders is elected, overthrow them in a military coup"

lolmg

rmde bob (will), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

anyway sorry the question implicit in elections for me is "Who do you want to fill this office?" None of the Above is an answer.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

yes we know

mookieproof, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link

The question implicit in an apartment search is "where do you want to live," but when the beachfront bauhaus mansion isn't in my price range I don't sleep on the street.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link

anyway sorry the question implicit in elections for me is "Who do you want to fill this office?" None of the Above is an answer.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 12, 2016 2:06 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read that as "orifice"

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

well clearly you're a sellout xp

Mordy, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

i will sleep under the boardwalk until they give me a beachfront property

Mordy, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Bloomfuck is from Boston btw

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

that's right. close enough, i guess.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

i will sleep up on the roof - get away from all that rat race noise down in the street.

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Yeah m.a., no president has ever affected my life as much as my domicile and never will.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

that's what the drifters song is about - not compromising on yr politics

Mordy, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

tried sleeping on broadway, but the glitter rubs right off, and you're nowhere.

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

i will sleep up on the roof - get away from all that rat race noise down in the street.

I completely missed "rat" when I first read that

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

choosing the lesser of two evils is p much what adult life is about

uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

does anyone fucking like bloomberg? I don't think so. I don't know why he's rattling these chains.

akm, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

I still want to see him get booed like Brady at the Superbowl

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

omg djp

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

oh boy the "adult" thing again, never gets old

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

bloomberg has some genuinely redeeming qualities. pretty good on public health and climate change

k3vin k., Friday, 12 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

xp: okay Dr Pan

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

lol xp

Mordy, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

in fairness, that was a total gimme

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

the Krell could tell you about lesser evils, if theyd lasted

https://5wordmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/forbidden-planet-morbius.jpg

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 February 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

a sanders/trump/bloomberg election would be the strangest in nearly a century, not only because 2/3 of the candidates would be nyc jews.

more thought experiments: would bloomberg take away more votes from sanders or trump??

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, February 12, 2016 3:05 PM (15 minutes ago)

i'll give you a hint: he was elected mayor of NYC

k3vin k., Friday, 12 February 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link

if bloomberg runs all you will hear about is 'soda tax'

akm, Friday, 12 February 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link


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