I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

lolll rubio ad. aside from the vancouver problem it's also just a mess - the gentle music, the slow pans of not-very-depressing scenes (a young lad on his paper route! a wedding!), doesn't really hang together with the content of the narration which is supposed to be about how everything sucks now. i mean some of the images are grimmer but still.

Clearly he should've gone once more with the "Obama knows exactly what he's doing" narration.

2 out of 5 Trump supporters believe the South should have won the Civil War?
This is basically why he cannot be the candidate even if a significant portion of the american public is screaming maniacally for him. A Trump nomination would destroy the party for an entire generation. I am still not ruling out the Trump/Clinton plot here tbh. The Don hates the Bushes!

Bernie Sanders is speaking at Morehouse College tonight, and based on the RSVP's for the Facebook event, I'm fairly certain the crowd is going to be mostly non-black, possibly people who have never been on a HBC campus before

― crüt, Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:40 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ughhhhhhh this is depressing if so but i don't not believe you. i'm sure most of the white people i know in atlanta want to go to this, and it is probable at least half meet your description.

Rubio's ad actually runs exactly counter to the spirit of Reagan's ad! It misses the point! But kudos for the scene by scene remake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8Qupc4PnQ

"It's morning in America. President Obama knows exactly what he is doing. Over 6,000 men and women are getting married this afternoon. Wait, what was I talking about again? Can - can we start over?" [sound of narrator gulping from bottle of water]

n fact 38% of Trump voters say they wish the South had won the Civil War to only 24% glad the North won and 38% who aren't sure.

wow, so many people concerned about states rights in the south in the mid-1800s, very interesting!

this is a poll in South Carolina at a Trump rally, im surprised it isn't 100% say the south will rise again

xxxxp I mean there will be Morehouse students & other African-American supporters there for sure, but not in the majority. And obv they will probably pack the seats directly behind Bernie with minority audience members, as political campaigns do when trying to court minority voters. It's just embarrassing to think about anyone renting a space in a historically black college to speak to the same white crowds. Not very surprising though.

also, lol @ 20-something white kids from Kennesaw asking on FB for nearby places to drink beer before the rally

>_<

There's a sampling error that's going on here, the performative function of declaring your tribal allegiance whenever asked by authority figure or pollster showing up and skewing any results, especially among southern/evangelical/authoritarian-leaning populations. Sorta how voiced support for shit like "oh we don't believe in premarital sex" et al has more to do with voicing group identity/mouthing tribal shibboleths than actual belief/habit, as real world numbers like teen pregnancy rates show.

In other words, position polling is limited as fuck and don't put too much stock into it. Works great if you want to churn out belief-reinforcing blog posts that do character assassination or fellating depending on whether Them or Us is being talked about, tho.

this is a poll in South Carolina at a Trump rally

Oh, but the idea of putting Trump-supporting crazy-spouting idiots on camera for oppo ads is very sweet and should be seriously considered.

^ especially if it is reinforced by parallel crazy-spouting by Trump himself

it would backfire horribly, in the primaries anyway. every candidate has horrible fans and donald's out of all of them are least likely to desert him because of the ads, because all of his fans are horrible. all you do is stir them up more, so that trump can say at rallies "NOw they're not content with going after me - I can take it, I'm a tough guy - but now Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, their ads, they wanna say that everybody here in the audience - that's the thing now, everybody's a racist. Everybody's a racist. Are you a racist? Are you? It's the political correctness and we're gonna get rid of that and start winning again. We don't win anymore..." etc. etc.

i'm surprised more people don't bring up how old bernie is. or maybe they do and i don't see it. he's pretty old. hillary is no spring chicken either though. no offense to oldsters. kinda think obama age is the ideal though. experience, but still sharp/quick.

anecdata, but a lot of hispanics in los angeles have told me they will vote for trump. they take a while to open up to this and if you speak spanish to them it helps. otherwise, they're not very outspoken about it

so, yeah, kingfish otm obv.

xps I was thinking more about the general than the primaries. But, yeah, it was a pipedream.

Dubya was 54 when he was 'elected' so i'm not sure that's a guidepost, scott.

i wonder if the Sanders ppl considered reserving 80% of attendance for Morehouse students.

romney got 27% of the hispanic vote, if trump is the nominee there is no way that he would do any better than that

someone should do a longform article on latino trump supporters, i'd read it

Trump Hermanos

I find that bit of anecdata hard to believe tbh, certainly doesn't mirror the impression I get from my latino neighbors

i wouldn't believe it if they hadn't told me, to be honest

yeah it's a surprise. I pass by windows w pics of Trump that have "Fuck This Puto" written on them

Trump usually leaves a small escape hatch in his racism, so he can deny it is racism. This escape hatch is equally available to those conservative-minded latinos who would like to believe in him.

i like to think a decent-sized minority of citizens in all demographic categories are airheads

Trump isn't racist at all. He encourages people to immigrate to the US legally so that they can clean the rooms in his fabulous hotels.

i've noticed the ones who oppose him are very vocal

anyway, one hispanic supporter said it's because of job competition. businesses prefer to hire illegal immigrants to lower overhead costs. he'd rather see these people get deported, giving him a better chance to receive a fairer wage

A sensational minimum wage job working for a human Swiffer lies just on the other side of that big, beautiful door.

Vancouver-based videographer Guy Chavasse told CBC News that he shot the footage before putting it up on stock video sites. Campaign ad-makers regularly license stock footage for spots.

Chavasse told CBC News he shot the footage last August.

"It's pretty funny, isn't it?" he said. "It's a good-looking video, no doubt, but it's pretty recognizable as Vancouver."

Incorrect footage has tripped up campaigns before, including this cycle when Donald Trump's campaign mistakenly used footage of Soviet veterans instead of American veterans in an ad last month.

It's not the first time the Republican presidential front-runner has mistaken foreign soldiers with American servicemen. In July, Trump's campaign produced a promotional image showing soldiers wearing German World War II uniforms instead of American ones.

i can't get too worked up about mini-controversies like this. i mean, some person in the rubio campaign ok'd a contract with someone else to work with someone else to put it together, and then they probably paid someone else to review the video and do focus testing, and somewhere along the way a shot of vancouver got in there. i guess maybe it says something about the quality of the people that rubio surrounds himself with, tbh i don't think it says much. same with the porn actress in cruz's video, or trump's soviet veterans.

Other candidates have committed similar gaffes, such as in Marh of 2016, when an ad for Donald Trump featuring a montage of past presidents celebrated by the GOP contained a brief glimpse of Adolph Hitler saluting his troops.

ben carson's map, otoh:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12247149_10153261318225959_2552633604433753946_n.jpg?oh=6d19d8ba76499df4c21bc6adcb0eac0a&oe=57712498

represented a colossal failure on all levels

ahahahahahahaha I had forgotten about that already

#BC2DC16R2D2USA

That map is still endlessly fascinating. Did Carson cut all of the individual states out and drop them and then have to hastily reassemble the map from memory before it was sent out? I just have no idea how that could have happened either accidentally or intentionally. I look forward to the Raw Vision feature on his campaign.

there was also the "why are nevada and idaho a lighter shade of red?" subcontroversy

ah the recognizably iconic skyline of Vancouver

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11018070/trump-scalia-conspiracy-theory

xp: lots of season 3 MacGyver fans out there

dying all over again at the carson map

the vancouver thing isn't really a "controversy," but it is funny. i don't like the guy, so seeing a string of things go wrong where he looks bad and out of his depth is satisfying.

but oh man that map. did it always have the wretched artifacting that seems to blur some of the non-dislocated states together?

pretty sure Scalia slept with a pillow over his face so the ghosts of all the fetuses he failed to save couldn't steal his eyes

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/16/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-civil-rights-nevada-south-carolina/80453486/

Elon James White has been tweeting excerpts/reactions to this today:

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/699704073545617408

A link to the plan she is referencing in her speech can be found here:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2016/02/12/breaking-every-barrier-agenda/

https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/699706718419345408

uhhhhhhhh

"vote for me or I will shoot you, xoxo"

that was a weird tweet

murica

Jeb Bush would probably be the type to horribly bungle an assassination