Alec Baldwin: Hollywood's King of Menace

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one year passes...

I saw AB at a screening of a George C Scott desert-isle incest movie from the '70s last night, rockin' a black polo shirt and a bag of popcorn.

He also interviewed GCS's son Campbell afterward, did some impressions of Scott and John Huston, and complained about film negotiations where, as opposed to 20 years ago, they won't spend an extra $750 G to shoot an LA story in LA. "Oh, no no, we won't get that. We'll shoot it in Louisville..."

otoh, eff you Alec:

“Don’t dance on Ailes’ grave. He has children. And all men come to the same end.”

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Update: Baldwin allegedly had someone holding a parking spot for him as he went to move his car, and someone swooped in and took the spot https://t.co/5XWh6EImZ5

— Gothamist (@Gothamist) November 2, 2018

gtfo 'holding a parking spot' in the village

mookieproof, Friday, 2 November 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

maybe they can prosecute him for the DJT impression too

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

maybe his arrest will mean he can't do his trump on snl this week, a boon for people who still watch that fucking show

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

baldwin is great, obv

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

if you forget Jack Donaghy he's done little of note this century

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 November 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

podcast surprisingly excellent tbh

seinfeld coffee things excellent

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Friday, 2 November 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

ah right I'm not a terrible man for the podcasts myself so haven't heard it.

the seinfeld thing is good but it's an interview. he's personable and witty when he's with pals, and not with folk who have the temerity not to respect a pedestrian "holding" a parking space

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 November 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

my friend's mother-in-law was a teacher on Long Island, and she had all the Baldwins in class

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/alec-baldwin-rust-incident-santa-fe-1235094931/

Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun on a set in New Mexico on Thursday, accidentally killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

jaymc, Friday, 22 October 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link

!

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

what the fuck

frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link

Holy shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 October 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

I wonder how it must feel to wrongfully kill someone...https://t.co/WE6QsAAXGI

— AlecBaldwin (@AlecBaldwln____) September 23, 2017

frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link

people making Curb Yout Enthusiasm jokes under that tweet can fuck right off

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 October 2021 06:34 (two years ago) link

I have questions about why the gun was pointing where it was pointing

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 09:42 (two years ago) link

FYI the (predictable) question I had was answered here: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prop-gun-using-blanks-still-052227936.html

StanM, Friday, 22 October 2021 09:48 (two years ago) link

also, what is wrong with the dickheads who are like "this is karma for making fun of Trump on SNL" - like WTF ?

StanM, Friday, 22 October 2021 09:50 (two years ago) link

I have questions about why the gun was pointing where it was pointing

I suppose it was a subjective "shot" where the actor is pointing at the camera... and all the people behind it.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 October 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link

xp Well we can start with the fact that these are trump fans on twitter, well I guess no need to explain further than that.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link

Man

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link

AFP otm

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

I'd guess yeah, feels like an unusual shot in the modern era

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link

Thinking about it, these subjective angles may well be in most movies with gun fights !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 October 2021 10:51 (two years ago) link

Oh sure, I was just rambling. I definitely associate them more with Noir and the 30s to 50s tho

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:53 (two years ago) link

wtf!
how can a gun be a "prop" gun if it can kill someone?!

kinder, Friday, 22 October 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link

FYI the (predictable) question I had was answered here: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prop-gun-using-blanks-still-052227936.html

― StanM, Friday, October 22, 2021 5:48 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 22 October 2021 11:57 (two years ago) link

the only previous cases of firearms deaths on movie sets the bbc correspondent could come up with was Brandon Lee and some 1915 silent western. I would guess there are probably strict H+S protocols in place that are why this doesn't happen very often.

calzino, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

I just don't get it. If you're making a movie, with guns, with prop guns, with toy guns, whatever, there is literally no reason there should be live ammo anywhere near the set, let alone close to the blanks or pretend rounds. Maybe that's why this apparently has not happened much before?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link

read the yahoo article, it explains how blanks work

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:10 (two years ago) link

we may need to post that link a few more times

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link

in fairness Stan (not blaming him just saying) didn't say what the predictable question was: it explains how prop guns are often real guns, what blanks are, and how this setup is still a hazard

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:12 (two years ago) link

oh it seems blanks are quite dangerously unpredictable at close range.

calzino, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:16 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I kind of knew how blanks work, but that mostly explains how someone can still be seriously injured by shooting blanks. Of the two examples given, one involved a guy literally sticking the gun *to his head* at point blank and fatally hurting himself. The other, Brandon Lee, involved a projectile (that is, bullet) that had been accidentally jammed in the barrel. But think of the literally millions and millions of blank rounds shot in action movies over the years. This almost never happens, because it really shouldn't happen. There should be no projectile in or near the gun, and if there is it should be caught well in advance and removed. And it of course usually is, because this really doesn't happen, relative to the number of guns in movies.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

I'd do a bit on risk assessment here but fuck it

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:21 (two years ago) link

feel like josh knows something we don't

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link

All I know is that we can rule out Brian Laundrie.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:37 (two years ago) link

the only time I had a real firearm shot at the ceiling above me I did the classic duck and cover (and almost shit yourself) move.

calzino, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:37 (two years ago) link

sorry about that

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 22 October 2021 12:50 (two years ago) link

Apparently this was a Western, which means they were most likely using prop revolvers, which need <something> in the visible chambers that'll show up on camera.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 October 2021 13:02 (two years ago) link

ah good point.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

I saw a props person quoted as saying that since the weapon seriously injured the director in addition to killing the cinematographer, it was likely a shotgun

Vast Halo, Friday, 22 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

that was my first thought as well. also if they were filming in rugged terrain, not out of the question that small rocks or debris could have gotten into the barrel

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 22 October 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link

vfx artist here, to everyone saying muzzle flashes added in post are as good as the real deal: yes, of course they are, it’s the easiest thing, what the fuck

— Nick Sinnott (@ndsinnott) October 22, 2021

groovypanda, Friday, 22 October 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

There’s no reason to have guns loaded with blanks or anything on set anymore. Should just be fully outlawed. There’s computers now. The gunshots on Mare of Easttown are all digital. You can probably tell, but who cares? It’s an unnecessary risk. https://t.co/pVWJp766EY

— craig zobel (@craigzobel) October 22, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

I could swear there was some kind of bad incident on set during Mike Figgis’s Internal Affairs; a prop gun not working properly or something. Figgis writes about Gere being horrified by the incident in the accompanying script book. Can’t find anything about it online.

There was also this from the filming of At Close Range; on IMDB

When Christopher Walken works with guns in film, he checks them himself before each scene for safety reasons and his own personal ease. During the scene when Sean Penn sticks a gun in Walken's face, Walken checked the gun before the scene started. Before the director had the chance to say "Action", Penn ran off camera and shouted, "Give me the other gun!" He immediately returned to Walken and started the scene. This is the cut that made it into the movie, and Walken was really terrified.

piscesx, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link


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