I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

What's the author missing?

I'm not even going to bother reading it unless it explains how anyone wins the presidency without winning a huge chunk of the latino vote, which Trump is just not going to do.

Hungry4Ass, who do you support for presidetn?

i read it - the author's argument is that trump is going to hit hillary on all her pseudo-scandals and he's a better communicator/connector than her so he will beat her

he has - google it

idk these statements that turn up in the results are part of the vaguest bullshit (surprise surprise) it's hard to say Trump even knows the meaning of the words coming out of his mouth. I guess I am skeptical that any of Trump's support is tied to actual specific policy proposals, cuz Trump just doesn't operate within those parameters.

xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ

like I don't think there's a single Trump supporter who thinks "he's for universal healthcare? Then he's MY GUY!"

i agree with you - his understanding of the policies are vague as are his supporters. it's more like what you see in that clip - the government is going to pay for it, everyone is going to get taken care of.

I'm not even going to bother reading it unless it explains how anyone wins the presidency without winning a huge chunk of the latino vote, which Trump is just not going to do.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:19 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

how are you going to know... what he explains... without reading it...

supposed to be italics... u button right next to tha i...

I'm going to read Mordy's summary of it, Mordy's generally a sharp guy

I don't think this is comparable really - the unprecedented recall of Davis, his canny understanding of the electorate/courting necessary Dem votes make the situation quite different.

Drop out Davis, consider the point re: Dem votes that others have been making of late as hard right types yell about never voting for him and... But if I may, from my friend Kaleb:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/arnold-schwarzenegger-donald-trump-celebrities-in-politics

don't let this guy manipulate you Mordy

I thought we were comparing Ahnuld and Ventura

xp

lots of xposts but i would not be even a little surprised if cruz got into a for real dustup with trump onstage at a debate

i think the argument is that she's not a good enough campaigner to deal w/ the huge amount of dirt trump can throw at her, and that trump is bulletproof and can get away with anything. it might be right about those dynamics but it's v hard for me to believe that trump can increase his part of the vote enough - for /some/ ppl he's bulletproof. for many many other ppl he's too toxic to vote for? i think. i've on record that i have no idea who between hillary + sanders is more electable. i can def see arguments for each.

Trump is definitely closer to Ahnuld, but honestly I don't think he's as smart.

xp

kinda surprised everyone is freaking out so hard about PRESIDENT TRUMP, calm down you guys

Hungry4Ass, who do you support for presidetn?

― mookieproof, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:20 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

Sitting on my endorsement until it will make the maximal (latin) impact.

lots of xposts but i would not be even a little surprised if cruz got into a for real dustup with trump onstage at a debate

― ulysses, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i misread this as:

if cruz got into a for real dubstep with trump onstage at a debate

and was like now we're getting somewhere

trumpstep

that takes the phrase "farty bass" to a whole new level

they should DJ battle, nomination goes to the sickest drop

Current Affairs guy does this pretty well

One can already imagine the monologue:

“She lies so much. Everything she says is a lie. I’ve never seen someone who lies so much in my life. Let me tell you three lies she’s told. She made up a story about how she was ducking sniper fire! There was no sniper fire. She made it up! How do you forget a thing like that? She said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the guy who climbed Mount Everest. He hadn’t even climbed it when she was born! Total lie! She lied about the emails, of course, as we all know, and is probably going to be indicted. You know she said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! It was a lie! Thousands of American soldiers are dead because of her. Not only does she lie, her lies kill people. That’s four lies, I said I’d give you three. You can’t even count them. You want to go on PolitiFact, see how many lies she has? It takes you an hour to read them all! In fact, they ask her, she doesn’t even say she hasn’t lied. They asked her straight up, she says she usually tries to tell the truth! Ooooh, she tries! Come on! This is a person, every single word out of her mouth is a lie. Nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Yuge liar.”

@NinaTotenberg
#SCOTUS sources say Cruz asked to sit w Scalia clerks @ funeral. They said no. Then GOP leadership said no bc he wasn't 1 of them either.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=969nu2jmhDc

i've definitely seen in this election cycle ppl talking about how unfair it is that ppl come to the US illegally and then jump the line for social benefits

You know who talks about this a whole fuckin' lot? People who immigrated here legally.

kinda surprised everyone is freaking out so hard about PRESIDENT TRUMP, calm down you guys

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:28 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's going to happen. dems have been bigger idiots than reps this election by like a million miles. they've talked themselves into believing that 'old white guy with empty promises' represents a real political revolution, and on the other hand have managed to paint their own 'potential first woman president in us history' as worse than hitler. meanwhile every time trump says something that you think should end his candidacy... really, where do y'all think this is going?

Trump is more of a wildcard than Forbes or Perot - he's wildly irresponsible and completely fucking moronic, who knows what he will do. But there's no way that unpredictability gets converted into actual support, he's too incoherent and offensive; at some point he's going to say things way beyond the pale of what anybody will accept.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:11 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump comes out of this whole thing seriously damaged - either disgraced, broke, or in jail

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:12 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kinda surprised everyone is freaking out so hard about PRESIDENT TRUMP, calm down you guys

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:28 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Let us know when we can freak out...

Donald Trump is one of the most formidable opponents in the history of American politics. He is sharp, shameless, and likable.

This is where i just have no idea what likability standards are, in the world of Trump and Jimmy Fallon.

Do you consider yourself likable?

Let us know when we can freak out...

November 8th

have all the political geniuses that said trump had no chance of being the repubo prez nomination eaten crow yet?

really, where do y'all think this is going?

Trump needs huge chunks of a population that currently hates him to vote for him. how is that going to happen. There are just not enough angry white guys to win the office anymore, that is a demographic fact.

have all the political geniuses that said trump had no chance of being the repubo prez nomination eaten crow yet?

after next Tuesday we're going to see a lot of the GOP "establishment" (McConnell, Ryan, Priebus, Kochs, etc.) trying to figure out how they can work with/coordinate with Trump. That's going to be really awkward and interesting, and idk what the outcomes going to be tbh.

About to go early vote, can't decide between trying to ratfuck the GOP with a Trump vote or just going with Bernie.

are u serious

if everyone's interested in me eating crow I will totally cop to underestimating Trump's resilience in the primaries, I thought the GOP primary voter base had more hardcore ideologues in it than it apparently does. Also underestimated how SuperPAC money would make Trump's plurality (rather than a majority) look like an unstoppable juggernaut.

But primaries/caucuses are a totally different beast than a general election. All of this handwringing is ridiculous.

xp

Hey everyone, are you ready for...The GROUP?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431857/conservative-leaders-hedge-support-cruz

A group of conservative activist leaders that voted late last year to endorse Ted Cruz over Marco Rubio held a conference call Tuesday to reevaluate their positions based on new developments in the Republican presidential race, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation. The call was for members of The GROUP, a secretive cabal of prominent conservatives led by the Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins and the Senate Conservatives Fund’s Ken Cuccinelli.

have all the political geniuses that said trump had no chance of being the repubo prez nomination eaten crow yet?

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mst3k/images/1/12/Crowsolo.jpg

milo z, u need a tap on the head if u don't vote Sanders

Did The Group tour with The Boys and The Family around 1986?

Probably my favorite Trump quote yet.

http://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html

xpost Nothing compares 2 Cruz

Not so solid cruz

Trump needs huge chunks of a population that currently hates him to vote for him. how is that going to happen.

those people are either not going to vote, or they are going to vote for someone else, or they are going to vote for trump. two out of three of those options are a vote for trump. simple math.

What I found persuasive about the Current Affairs article was not the idea that a Trump presidency would be inevitable if Clinton became the Dem candidate, which I read as hyperbole and didn't even think to take seriously, but the argument that Sanders might be more competitive against Trump than Clinton would.

what exactly is the profile of the person currently looking at Trump saying "Jesus Christ, I hate this guy so much. I cannot wait to vote for him in the general election."

Republican?

"....but at least he's not ______"?

Really, most of the Trump dem handwringing I've seen so far has just been excuses to explain why Sanders is the only hope. The key phrase from the Current Affair article is this one 'everything about the electability calculus has changed, due to one simple fact: Donald Trump is likely to be the Republican nominee for President.' This is untrue, of course. Why wouldn't Trump be able to say bad things about Sanders?