I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

On Trump leading Florida polls: no surprise that America's wang likes America's head wang-waver.

i can completely see, come September, the Katha Pollitt Gang declaring that any lefty who fails to vote for HRC (even in an uncontested state) IS A FASCIST.

oh that's definitely coming

@ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald Retweeted Donald J. Trump
From August, 2011: Presume this would be a big issue in Trump v. Clinton

@realDonaldTrump
As bad as Qaddafi was---what comes next in Libya will be worse---just watch.

ahahahaa

https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/702900260218261504

paleo support for cro magnon

^ yup

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/ted-cruz-texas.html

Mr. Cruz has made the case that only he is capable of beating Mr. Trump, citing his victory in Iowa.

At his own rally, though, there was at least one skeptical voice.

“Nationalism is the new thing, man,” said Jordan Voor, 30, a Trump supporter who works nearby and wore a longhorn belt buckle the size of a miniature football.

“I just kind of want to watch the establishment burn,” Mr. Voor added. “What’s the point of being conservative anymore? It’s a failing ideology.”

Kinky Friedman, a singer and humorist who ran for governor in 2006 — winning more than 12 percent of the vote as an independent — said that he admired Mr. Cruz, but was likewise drawn to Mr. Trump’s unconventional message.

Besides, Mr. Friedman predicted, the Texas primary will not matter much, anyway.

“Trump is obviously going to be the nominee,” he said. “Long may he wave.”

who could have thought that american fascism would drop the high operatic seriousness and replace it with this giggling goofball shit

http://www.jfk-online.com/100okeefe.jpg

So many people I knew voted for Friedman in 2006, and I told them they were crazy and he was a total jag. I should pop onto Facebook and see how many of them are voting Trump.

the bummed out dudes section at a ted cruz rally sounds like the 5th circle of hell

Everything by everyone pertaining to the 1994 crime bill is atrocious and embarrassing

Good Voxsplainer article putting that bill in perspective:

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/11/10961362/clinton-1994-crime-law

“What’s the point of being conservative anymore? It’s a failing ideology.”

Yes definitely you know what we need, we need to be MORE CONSERVATIVE

"What's the point of being conservative anymore? It's a failing ideology. You read Death in Venice!"

"Here's to the New Frontier. Camelot in smithereens."

http://www.jfk-online.com/asner.jpg

from that assassination tweet re: Trump heavies

Raymond e Humerick j ‏@Raymosaki 2h2 hours ago
@mimimayesTN @Bullring2 @johndurant his security far exceeds Secret Service protection he has the best money can buy I looked into it

"I've looked into it" as proof positive will be Trump's enduring legacy

Mitt Romney ‏@MittRomney 2h2 hours ago
Methinks the Donald doth protest too much. Show voters your back taxes, @realDonaldTrump. #WhatIsHeHiding

Doesn't matter, he already called Mitt "a fool," case closed

Believe me, I've looked into my tax returns, they're great

I have a guy, one of the best guys, he called me, he said, look, these are the best returns I've ever seen—and this is a smart guy, one of the smartest

oh cool, shakespeare jokes

stand down everybody mitt's here to douse this populist fuse

if there's anybody the GOP rank and file will listen to about how bad Trump is, it's Mitt Romney

Jay Cost ‎@JayCostTWS

Attention sane Republicans. The number to stop Trump is 1236 delegates. Learn it. Love it. LIVE IT. 1236. 1236. 1236. 1236. 1236. 1236. 1236
3:12 PM - 24 Feb 2016

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I'm still mulling over the obvious question with Romney: is he deluded enough to think the party will turn to him in an open convention? I can't see why he wants to get involved--is he actually that loyal to a party that kind of hates him?

yes

he has nothing to lose by attacking Trump, unlike a lot of other "establishment" GOP cronies

he just has to knock that one essential piece loose and Trump will come toppling down like a giant Jenga tower

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2016/02/25/poll-trumps-negatives-among-hispanics-rise-worst-in-gop-field/

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:03 (2 hours ago) Permalink

yeah, the latest poll quoted in that article was conducted by univision and surveyed their own audience. my understanding is that univision does most of the legwork to sway hispanics to the democratic party. so these polls exemplify a job well done for univision. i was talking to a couple mexican guys and they seemed pretty concerned that the democrats don't exactly have a great track record on immigration. i guess a lot of them feel pretty used by the democrats. but i'm pretty sure they're voting republican.

with regard to how hispanics vote, they have mostly always voted democrat, right?

that politico article ned posted has some truth to it. hispanics find it easier to align themselves with conservatives when they see hispanics running for the gop nomination; cruz, rubio, etc. if hispanic conservative gop nominees don't call out trump on immigration, then they think it's a non-issue created by the democrats, a party that they feel disenfranchised by on matters of immigration.

it's bizarre that hispanics are the largest minority group, yet are scarcely represented. but i was doing some searching and found a guardian article that says hispanics live in the poorest communities in the us and have a really low educational attainment rate and high levels of unemployoment[0].

[0] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/most-hispanics-vote-democrat-but-most-hispanic-politicians-are-republican-marco-rubio-ted-cruz

From that 538 article above:

Rubio’s increasingly tenuous path depends on his ability to win a series of winner-take-all states with high proportions of white-collar, college-educated Republicans, most critically his home state of Florida on March 15.

lol

Someone needs to doctor a video of Trump weeping copiously. Feel like that could do the trick.

"I dropped my lolleeeeeeee!"

Trump actually supported Romney last time--saw a interview from 2012 where he was defending Romney when Romney's taxes became an issue. So Romney's attacking someone who defended him rather than attack the party that basically humiliated him during the primaries by giving Perry, Gingrich, Cain, and Santorum a revolving-door chance to be the not-Romney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wepQa4gC5Yw

@realDonaldTrump
FMR PRES of Mexico, Vicente Fox horribly used the F word when discussing the wall. He must apologize! If I did that there would be a uproar!

a master at work

Seriously. He's a horrendous human being on almost every level, but the paradoxical efficacy of his mealy-mouthed straight talk is a wonder to behold.

trump can be beaten:

https://youtu.be/k8TwRmX6zs4

hispanics find it easier to align themselves with conservatives when they see hispanics running for the gop nomination; cruz, rubio, etc

wrong

oh that clarifies it! thanks for your erudition

keith ellison in versailles, last year

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/702863536616157184

if hispanic conservative gop nominees don't call out trump on immigration, then they think it's a non-issue created by the democrats, a party that they feel disenfranchised by on matters of immigration.

right because democrats have been campaigning on building a goddamn wall to keep out the rapists and murders

trump has proudly made this an issue, has put it front and center in his campaign. why would hispanics think trump's outspoken thoughts about immigration are a made up non-issue by the democrats?

Because the other GOP candidates don't talk about it? I didn't follow infinity's logic either

yeah, wondering what people thinking that trump couldn't make it this far were actually paying attention to or reading. maybe they just sought confirmation bias (on twitter)

xps

with regard to how hispanics vote, they have mostly always voted democrat, right?

yes, but increasingly so.

--1980 Jimmy Carter, 56% Ronald Reagan, 35% +21

--1984 Walter Mondale, 61% Ronald Reagan, 37% +24

--1988 Michael Dukakis, 69% George H.W. Bush, 30% +39

--1992 Bill Clinton, 61% George H.W. Bush, 25% +36

--1996 Bill Clinton, 72% Bob Dole, 21% +51

--2000 Al Gore, 62% George W. Bush, 35% +27

--2004 John Kerry, 58% George W. Bush, 40% +18

--2008 Barack Obama, 67% John McCain, 31% +36

--2012 Barack Obama, 71% Mitt Romney, 27% +44

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2016-02-24/behind-bernie-sanders-revolution-lies-a-meticulously-engineered-grassroots-network

Somewhat fascinating piece on the intricate organizing network behind Sanders' campaign (although I wish it was a little better written/explained).

GWB the main exception obv, though he still lost them

Because the other GOP candidates don't talk about it? I didn't follow infinity's logic either

― Karl Malone, Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea the GOP candidates don't want to talk about it bc they risk losing any of the racist white voters who aren't already trump fans

yeah, wondering what people thinking that trump couldn't make it this far were actually paying attention to or reading. maybe they just sought confirmation bias (on twitter)

I think they were assuming that his horse-ass-itude would cause him to flame out the way some semi-similar crazies did the previous election cycle. Or he'd get bored and quit.

trump can be beaten:

https://youtu.be/k8TwRmX6zs4

― goole, Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:52 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a great video