I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

That's ridiculous of Christie. Is he that shortsighted? I guess he's getting out of politics.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

christies got nowhere to go in politics, hes wildly unpopular in his state and has legal issues, hoping for an appointment in the trump regime is abt as good as it gets for him

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

yeah this seems like a pretty rational decision on his part

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Christie was pretty smart, leaving on a high note like he did

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nomar, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

feel like rubio is going too trump w his insults comes off as a lil guy trying to play along shd try to be a lil more serious and indignant while still calling trump a piece of shit

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 12:46 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree with this

spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

part of the Trump phenomenon is that you can't touch him without becoming defiled yourself

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I don't know Christie's situation that well--I guess you're right, it's not like there's anything left for him. This does remind me in a way of how some Republican strategists and such tried to latch on with Perot in '92. (Ed Rollins in particular comes to mind.) I don't know if they all found they way back.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

"their way back"

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah why wd ppl vote for a Fake Trump over the original?

"Would you have trusted any of these clowns with the nuclear codes? (Maybe John Kasich, but only if there were absolutely no other option, Curly Howard being dead and all.)" - Pierce

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

i am anxious to see what hillary or bernie is going to do when trump calls them a dumb loser or whatever

spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link

pee+pants+rubio+trump

next thread title?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

i am anxious to see what hillary or bernie is going to do when trump calls them a dumb loser or whatever

― spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, February 26, 2016 1:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems like it shdnt be hard to point out that hes an petty insubstantial name caller

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link

reading this made me less confident that clinton would whup trump

http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

Trump will capitalize on his reputation as a truth-teller, and be vicious about both Clinton’s sudden changes of position (e.g. the switch on gay marriage, plus the affected economic populism of her run against Sanders) and her perceived dishonesty. One can already imagine the monologue:

“She lies so much. Everything she says is a lie. I’ve never seen someone who lies so much in my life. Let me tell you three lies she’s told. She made up a story about how she was ducking sniper fire! There was no sniper fire. She made it up! How do you forget a thing like that? She said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the guy who climbed Mount Everest. He hadn’t even climbed it when she was born! Total lie! She lied about the emails, of course, as we all know, and is probably going to be indicted. You know she said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! It was a lie! Thousands of American soldiers are dead because of her. Not only does she lie, her lies kill people. That’s four lies, I said I’d give you three. You can’t even count them. You want to go on PolitiFact, see how many lies she has? It takes you an hour to read them all! In fact, they ask her, she doesn’t even say she hasn’t lied. They asked her straight up, she says she usually tries to tell the truth! Ooooh, she tries! Come on! This is a person, every single word out of her mouth is a lie. Nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Yuge liar.”

Where does she even begin to respond to this? Some of it’s true, some of it isn’t, but the more she tries to defensively parse it (“There’s been no suggestion I’m going to be indicted! And I didn’t say I usually tried to tell the truth, I said I always tried and usually succeeded”) the deeper she sinks into the hole.

Trump will bob, weave, jab, and hook. He won’t let up. And because Clinton actually has lied, and actually did vote for the Iraq War, and actually is hyper-cosy with Wall Street, and actually does change her positions based on expediency, all she can do is issue further implausible denials, which will further embolden Trump. Nor does she have a single offensive weapon at her disposal, since every legitimate criticism of Trump’s background (inconsistent political positions, shady financial dealings, pattern of deception) is equally applicable to Clinton, and he knows how to make such things slide off him, whereas she does not.

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

although i don't think it convinced me that bernie would do any better

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

hillary shrugs smiles and says in a cheerfully exasperated tone "this is what donald always does when someone points out he has no plan or experience he calls names and then says hes the best at everything"

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

lol the media veering wildly from trump is week trump cant win to trump is the next president

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Hillary: "There you go again..."

Donald: "Oh look, your husband's getting a blowjob backstage."

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

hillary shrugs smiles and says in a cheerfully exasperated tone "this is what donald always does when someone points out he has no plan or experience he calls names and then says hes the best at everything"

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats good you should tell her to say that

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

"and i went to his wedding bcz he gave the Foundation money, that was his offer" xxxp

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

he knows how to make such things slide off him, whereas she does not.

Yeah, that's why her Senate career flamed out, and why she was never able to get confirmed as Secretary of State, and...

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

thats good you should tell her to say that

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:31 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think its p obvious both rubio and cruz said as much last night tho it was hard to hear through all the yelling

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

now if i go down to the breakroom to eat my sammich this circus is going to be the CNN soundtrack

yes THEY TURNED UP THE SOUND now

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I feel like, for most of the people who've debated or will debate him, a quick n' easy retort to any 'loser' verbiage from Trump would be, "Hey, Donald, refresh my memory: how many elections have you won?"

Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Trump attacking anybody for flip-flopping for political expediency would be painting a target on his own back

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

no one's really gone after him before last night, except for Jebra, which was major weak sauce

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

also general debate w Dems is going to be on a different playing field, with different avenues of attack available

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

he is pretty thin-skinned though, which is p obvious by now. also short-fingered.

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

I don't think it helps trump that there are half a dozen people onstage and the other republicans actually are dumb losers. I think a one-on-one will be a bit different. Maybe.

nomar, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

I think it helps I mean

nomar, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

the easiest way to piss him off in a clinton/trump debate would be to cite poll data constantly as he will inevitably be behind

dude LOVES polls

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

Because half the people who vote in republican primaries are crazy as shit? Also because they firmly believe the country is going to hell due to Obama, and everyone else on the stage has in some way enabled Obama, so nothing they say can be trusted.

JoeStork, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow xxxxp

JoeStork, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:39 PM (3 minutes ago)

dude, look at the people who are voting in GOP primaries and then compare it to general election voters

k3vin k., Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php%3Fdate%3D02262016

ulysses, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

oh pshaw
http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=02262016

ulysses, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

reading this made me less confident that clinton would whup trump

Trends are bad for even a good Republican candidate - one who invokes a sense of crawling skin in most of the electorate isn't going to fare any better.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

Hillary really needs to watch and rewatch the video of Obama roasting Trump at the WH Correspondents' dinner. It's so delightful every time the camera cuts to Trump. He hates it soooo much.

Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one's really gone after him before last night, except for Jebra, which was major weak sauce

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also general debate w Dems is going to be on a different playing field, with different avenues of attack available

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup, also its not just the debates no ones gone after him in ads on the stump etc, dems will build a case, trump has a loooot of baggage and hes never had someone call him on it before

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

i think part of the issue for cruz + rubio is that they're also substanceless bullshitters trying to trick voters into voting for them so even tho rubio gets all smug "look he doesn't have a real healthcare plan" it's not like any of his policies are particularly detailed.

Mordy, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

if trumps the nominee he cld win obvs if theres only two choices both of them have a shot but imo its more likely he loses while doing long term damage to the republican party, if hes nominated some ppl are gonna leave and never come back, and obvs any sort of rapprochement with poc is off the table in anyone now alives lifetime

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

lol the media veering wildly from trump is week trump cant win to trump is the next president

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:30 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

in a 2 horse race a lead like this at this early stage is enormous btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA I was so wrong
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11120530/chris-christie-endorses-donald-trump

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

if bernies nominated who knows what the fuck will happen bernie v trump is some serious alternate reality shit, but that looks like a long shot

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

bernie is not going to be nominated, he's pretty much done after next tuesday

marcos, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

ya

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

there's really no reason why this market should be super stable while the 'trump wins or not' one is super chaotic. (like the real reason is nobody cares about this market, but because of that it's not that useful.)

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

it is kind of bonkers how many of my friends wholeheartedly believe "bernie is the only chance we have of winning this election" , wildly overestimating both trump & bernie's appeal

marcos, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link


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