I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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oh pshaw
http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=02262016

ulysses, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

reading this made me less confident that clinton would whup trump

Trends are bad for even a good Republican candidate - one who invokes a sense of crawling skin in most of the electorate isn't going to fare any better.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

Hillary really needs to watch and rewatch the video of Obama roasting Trump at the WH Correspondents' dinner. It's so delightful every time the camera cuts to Trump. He hates it soooo much.

Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one's really gone after him before last night, except for Jebra, which was major weak sauce

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also general debate w Dems is going to be on a different playing field, with different avenues of attack available

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup, also its not just the debates no ones gone after him in ads on the stump etc, dems will build a case, trump has a loooot of baggage and hes never had someone call him on it before

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

i think part of the issue for cruz + rubio is that they're also substanceless bullshitters trying to trick voters into voting for them so even tho rubio gets all smug "look he doesn't have a real healthcare plan" it's not like any of his policies are particularly detailed.

Mordy, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

if trumps the nominee he cld win obvs if theres only two choices both of them have a shot but imo its more likely he loses while doing long term damage to the republican party, if hes nominated some ppl are gonna leave and never come back, and obvs any sort of rapprochement with poc is off the table in anyone now alives lifetime

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

lol the media veering wildly from trump is week trump cant win to trump is the next president

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:30 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

in a 2 horse race a lead like this at this early stage is enormous btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA I was so wrong
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11120530/chris-christie-endorses-donald-trump

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

if bernies nominated who knows what the fuck will happen bernie v trump is some serious alternate reality shit, but that looks like a long shot

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

bernie is not going to be nominated, he's pretty much done after next tuesday

marcos, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

ya

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

there's really no reason why this market should be super stable while the 'trump wins or not' one is super chaotic. (like the real reason is nobody cares about this market, but because of that it's not that useful.)

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

it is kind of bonkers how many of my friends wholeheartedly believe "bernie is the only chance we have of winning this election" , wildly overestimating both trump & bernie's appeal

marcos, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

bernie is not going to win, but super tuesday is not necessarily going to deal him his death blow. there are plenty of states after next tuesday that bernie should do much better in, although the question is probably how close he keeps some of the races on tuesday. if he gets smoked, as it looks like he might, that could hurt his fundraising efforts and bring him a lot of bad PR

k3vin k., Friday, 26 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

i cannot get out of my head the line about how bernie is a left-wing fb meme come to life

Mordy, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

marcos, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcKJ4yUUUAE8pTv.jpg

this really does look like a guy who knows he just sold his soul

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

lol check out this shit someone posted yesterday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcHqT4bUEAAvQV_.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

like they just put a saying they liked over a picture of bernie lol

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Ross Douthat ✔ ‎@DouthatNYT
I am glad you are here with me, Samwise: Here, at the end of all things.

I lol'ed

Mars Capone (WilliamC), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it is fucking abominable. there are hillary versions of this too though & they can be just as awful

crüt, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm definitely one of these ppl. sorry

spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

nobody even likes his policies they just want the president to be sufficiently memeable. inevitable consequences of letting millenials vote. xp

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

yeah it is fucking abominable. there are hillary versions of this too though & they can be just as awful

― crüt, Friday, February 26, 2016 2:05 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just figured no one likes hillary enough to meme her

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Ross Douthat ✔ ‎@DouthatNYT
I am glad you are here with me, Samwise: Here, at the end of all things.

I lol'ed

bhahahahahahaa

Douchehat is terrible but quality zing

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i'm definitely one of these ppl. sorry

― spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, February 26, 2016 2:05 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aw treesh i forgive u lol

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

ok maybe they're not nearly as bad w/the memes, but they're as bad with the conspiracy theories & accusations of nefarious motives

crüt, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

iatee, where is the "trump vs anyone else for presidency" market? i haven't seen that one. or do you mean the GOP nomination market?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

yeah

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/703293106490224640

Trump throws water around stage, physically mocks Rubio, tosses away water bottle

goole, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

you can calculate 'trump vs anyone else' from the probabilities, no?

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

the GOP nomination market being crazy while the GOP vs DEM presidency market being stable could just as easily mean that it doesn't matter who the GOP nominate.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

ok maybe they're not nearly as bad w/the memes, but they're as bad with the conspiracy theories & accusations of nefarious motives

― crüt, Friday, February 26, 2016 2:07 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess theres def some hillary voters on my feed but just no full on hillary fans, or at least not ones who want to deal w interacting with the bernieariat

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

xp yes but predictwise (which has a shitty website/interface) doesn't give the history of the right probabilities

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/703293193337577473/photo/1

crüt, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

'it doesn't matter who the gop nominates' seems like a much more controversial statement than 'nobody really cares to spend money in the gop vs dem betting market right now so it's not a very useful source of information'

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

you do this calculation but with republicans and trump

http://www.separatinghyperplanes.com/2015/10/some-quick-electoral-prediction-math.html

flopson, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

no debate mashups for lunch... CNN was running a live DT stump speech in its entirety. bcz they're all so different.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

feel like u have an osha complaint on yr hands

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

'it doesn't matter who the gop nominates' seems like a much more controversial statement than 'nobody really cares to spend money in the gop vs dem betting market right now so it's not a very useful source of information'

― iatee, Friday, February 26, 2016 2:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

knowing who the gop nominates doesn't allow the market to make better predictions about the outcome of the election. it's in that sense it "doesn't matter"

i'm not saying the real odds are 61/39 or whatever they are. i'm saying they are stable because nothing has changed.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

so the "woe is us" stuff this week has been crazy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

or at least not based on new news

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards

will you... stop... stop... STOP evaluating your last chance to not see the fucking Waterworld in your lifetime by extrapolating everything from DICKS ON THE INTERNETZ? ty

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

knowing who the gop nominates allows the market to make massively better predictions about the outcome of the election!

iatee, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

will you... stop... stop... STOP evaluating your last chance to not see the fucking Waterworld in your lifetime by extrapolating everything from DICKS ON THE INTERNETZ? ty

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 26, 2016 2:16 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeez i didnt say i was evaluating bernie based on that morbs

lag∞n, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

haha shout out to Fetterman xpost

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 26 February 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

He said it would be great if liberals could ride Sanders’s coattails into Congress. But it is not Sanders’s job to get them there. “I don’t think he can go and buy them coats,” Chamberlain said.

lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link


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