I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

xp I hope so caek.

I really hope we are seeing the implosion of the GOP rather than its transformation into something even uglier. I am 80% certain hill or bern (probably hillary) will trounce trump in the general, but i am concerned about his ability to get his supporters to the polls, especially white independents in swing states

Either way, I am disgusted that trump's brand of blatant racism has infiltrated the mainstream.

right. there's a 80–90% chance this will work out for the better (note that i did not say "best"), but the 10–20% chance that it won't is terrifying.

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I am thinking a lot about the number of global warming related refugees we will see in the next few decades. I really don't want our country to get used to a "build a wall, they're rapists" way of thinking.

get ready for a lot of 'progressive' white ppl chastising black ppl for not voting 'in their own interests'

according to Chuck Todd, Sanders' piss poor SC performance means he's vying for prime time speaking space at the convention.

Wow Hillary crushed it

It's a shame but I can live with her as a candidate.

wow uh i thought it'd be a little closer than this. some of those whose predictions i trust from the previous cycles have been saying the nomination is pretty much over since nevada. also that maybe warren will endorse hillary soon?

I'll vote for Hillary.

I would've also picked the wrench because fuck 'em that's why.

So grossed out by Human Rights Campaign shirts and paraphernalia at Clinton rally. Do they think it's cute that their abbreviations match?

Shhhh! Don't tell them she voiced support for Hosni Mubarak!

hillary has certainly done some very fucked up things in the past but ultimately i'm happy to vote for her, more and more i find myself in agreement with daria g's and mordy's earlier positive posts about her (now hidden in this massive thread). there is a lot i don't like about her and i know there would be a lot of shit i would hate about her presidency but there is also a lot that i do like about her, i think she's a pretty fascinating person and i am super excited about voting for a woman.

yes we know

I can see them undermining democracy. Trump's lies are so brazen and blatant, they could make a case that he is simply unqualified to represent them. Shady, yeah, but the alternative is the Party is heretofore totally beholden to this Rush Limbaugh-like motherfucker, it's like a dog walks man situation

― spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Saturday, February 27, 2016 5:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Some shit he says would probably be considered hate speech in some parts of Europe. "Obama is only letting in Muslim refugees, purposely excluding Christians." "The refugees are all young men, not families." "Muslims in America celebrated on 9/11 in mass numbers." It's not even dogwhistling. He's implying that Muslims are a clear and present danger, and lying blatantly to give this impression. It's so many bridges too far.

― spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Saturday, February 27, 2016 5:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it possible, i guess, that they would fight trump in the convention to avoid nominating him but CERTAINLY NOT because he is a racist shitbag and "rush-limbaugh-like"

Inevitability means I feel nothing at all (it's really her husband I despise). But she's likely the next president after the grotesqueries on the GOP side this week.

a guy was wearing a "KKK supports trump" shirt at one of his rallies today. he got thrown out, and then without any irony trump, lamenting the slow response of the security team, goes "you know, this is how political correctness is ruining our country"

obama was asked the other day by the press about his thoughts on trump and the other cast of characters, he was pretty otm in saying that trump isn't really saying things that are that different from the rest of the GOP candidates, they all say xenophobic shit about muslims, none of them believe in climate change, they are all pretty much on board with shitting on illegal immigrants

which is why he has never sounded like a betrayal of National Review conservatism to me

like trump is bad and scary sure and definitely legitimizes many people's desires to say racist bullshit but he is really just doing it in a more colorful way that the typical GOP racist bullshit

i suspect they hate Trump the person (and Trump the "didn't pay his dues" guy) way more than they hate his politics (except for his liberal issues)

Her speech is pretty good. When she tones it down, I don't mind listening to her--maybe that goes to stuff daria wrote a couple of week ago, and I'm applying a different standard to her, I don't know. Barring something really unexpected happening, she should trounce Trump. I do like her husband better.

rubio is cracking me up

his tough-guy fighting back thing is so fuckin hilarious and pathetic

early returns have clinton with over 75% of the vote, this is a landslide

I like his con-man line--he's pretty good at the insults. But I don't know why he thinks he's going to out-insult Trump.

I'm having an argument with one of those self-righteous fellow progressives on Facebook.

when clinton raises the volume too much on her speaking voice it's not too easy on the ears and i definitely notice this, although in general the fiery parts of political speeches stress me out even if i agree with the candidate. but with hillary it seems like a combination of 1) women get criticized for being shrill or w/e unfortunately and 2) midwestern accent. if she had a southern accent or even west coast or something i bet it'd sound better, oh well

tbf i find basically every politician awful to listen to, with the occasional exception of obama

yea, even obama speaks in platitudes that are v annoying, like i was excited to watch his final SOTU address but I barely made it halfway

SOTU are not places for inspired rhetoric, people.

They all sound overly focus-grouped and calculated, including Obama. I think that's part of the impact of both Trump and Sanders, though from totally different directions and for totally different reasons -- neither of them have that quality of having been bullshitting so long that they don't even know they're bullshitting anymore.

Obama to me often sounds like he's giving the commencement speech at a university graduation;

CNN's John King, Buzzkiller-in-Chief

Her dad will never get my vote, but she's off to a fast start in getting my vote in 2048.

http://i.imgur.com/5uKNb8V.jpg

Sanders' speech sounds like an epitaph.

Bernie, you fought the good fight, man

Aiming his words at Republicans instead of Clinton.

He sounds drained and spiritless.

he's 74!

Wasn't a problem a few days ago!

If nothing else, he did HRC a solid by offering a challenge.

Then again maybe we're just being morbid, maybe it isn't over

it's very over. i'd like for him to stay in as long as possible to keep hillary honest, though

Clinton overperforming Barack Obama in 2008.

https://twitter.com/TylerRickyTynes/status/703732742987452419

Which means that she won a considerable chunk of the Obama coalition of 2008. I wasn't expecting results this stunning -- no other word. No wonder GOP advisers were leaking to the NYT.

Clinton didn't abandon the state in 2008 like Bernie did this year, though. xps

what do you mean outperforming 08 obama?