Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Trump later acknowledged his German ancestry and served as grand marshal of the 1999 German-American Steuben Parade in New York City.

^ one for nakh's thread

toni morrison wasn't "claiming" clinton as black btw

I know, but she was making an equivalency based on unfair treatment + stereotype. No one's treating Trump unfairly because he projects "NY Jew". He does not project "NY Jew" imo.

was gonna say! That Morrison quote has been contorted into fascinating shapes.

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― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 29, 2016 5:55 PM (8 minutes ago)

so few people understand what she was saying that i sometimes wonder if it partially explains the clinton's popularity with the black electorate

my pt stands that Clinton:Blackness::Trump:Jewishness is not correct

In Salon, Virginia Vitzthum suggested Clinton was also the first woman president:

http://www.salon.com/1998/10/08/newsb_24/

There was a teenage-girlishness to his love-play — the hours on the phone, memorizing her phone number, wearing her ties on special days. He played hard to get; he wouldn’t go all the way. And every time he needed to turn ruthless, he nurtured instead, comforting and flattering Monica instead of sending her packing.... In his affair, Clinton played the old girl game of Technical Virginity — staying good by doing “everything but.”

Weird comment at the Trump rally going on: "Someone just said 'Keep the wall going, keep the wall going'--believe me, we're going to keep the wall going.'"

He spoke in the present tense--has construction already started?

Love this Yogi-ism, too (talking about the media): "20% of them good, 80% of them are bad, 40% of them are disgusting." If the disgusting ones are a subset of the bad ones, I guess that works.

Clinton first commie president according to a stupid article, somewhere

More than his debate debacle, more than his earnest Jimmy Olsen-like pleading, Rubio's embarrassing himself right now. One of his handlers just explained that they have no choice, they have to draw a sharp contrast with Trump. So Rubio goes out now and becomes Donald Trump.

Big surprise: the ex-Arizona governor who had the tarmac skirmish with Obama a few years ago endorses Trump.

Scott Desjarlais, MD - pro life Christian conservative U.S. Rep for TN, who's had multiple affairs, including at least one with a patient whom he pressured to have an abortion, is endorsing Trump.

Trump has the old angry desert white vote locked up

there were questions about this last week

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/29/468253626/a-history-of-super-tuesday

The Clintons' plan to combat Trump.

the "Drumpf" meme is so fucking stupid, the family name was changed in the 17th century

“Hope and change, not so much,” said David Plouffe, who managed Mr. Obama’s 2008 campaign, referring to the slogan that defined that race. “More like hate and castrate.”

wtf

xp yeah, i was expecting something so much more devastating based on the reactions today all over the internet. Whole thing was so so stupid. John Oliver remains insufferable.

Not surprised to see Jan Brewer endorse Trump, the AZ Republican Party is basically the harbinger of the national party. Clean election laws here in AZ disempowered the GOP establishment as gatekeepers, and as a result, all manner of noxious crazies run my state's government. Meanwhile liberals in central Phoenix, Tempe, and Tucson pray that demographic changes eventually politically transform the state into Colorado or New Mexico.

I guess Cruz is being written off at this point, but I just saw this video and I have to say there is something impressive about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi5IZ9StVUI&ebc=ANyPxKpXKNnxcbJdckV-z6-uH6cg4MVLYW9IQzCZaXtP5iCip3_63vZjP0VuxuHRSCubidgl-vD2B3c321nqFSXIwf10gzZw1g

I had kind of only known him as (1) hyperconservative ideologue and (2) creepy guy, but damn he knows his shit, and you have to think if he has a range of subjects he can speak about with this depth he could win over a lot of GOP voters.

and yet

total snake, I know

I mean I guess it manages to explain why he's done as well as he has in spite of basically being disgusting

Cruz: "I'd be happy to answer your question if you would stop yelling."

The man wasn't yelling. He was being emphatic, but the level of his voice was exactly as loud as Cruz's voice. This was just a way to put the guy at a disadvantage and disconcert him.

Cruz being this super-smart idiot who everyone hates is definitely the only fun part of the GOP campaign. I mean, this guy was a national debate champion, but when he told his Princeton teammates he planned to run for president of the debate society, they held a secret "anyone-but-Cruz" meeting. That's basically Cruz in a nutshell

cruz was condescending af in that exchange, i mean he knows his policy he's just a huge dick even when trying to play nice guy

nahh fuck cruz but he was nothing if not extremely patient and gracious there

I think there was a subtle way that it came off like he was following a manual on how to win people over instead of being genuine, but he followed the manual very well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/us/politics/donald-trump-supremacists.html

This "earpiece" excuse for the kkk coyness is such weak bullshit. One of the most disturbing things about this race is the normality of brazen, shameless lies

One of my favourite things this whole cycle was Sanders' Sunday-morning reaction to South Carolina: "We got decimated, George, we got decimated." No creative math or anything.

Bernie's a real human being. Pulling for him tomorrow.

Watching that video I'm trying to recall a GOP nominee as policy wonkish as Cruz. Pat Buchanan? Here's one place Trump clearly benefited from such a pileup of candidates, running major interference. Cruz never had a chance to flex his knowledge. It's hard to imagine that in a protracted debate among just two or three candidates he wouldn't have scored more points for his smarts, dickface notwithstanding.

Cruz was really patient there, but he also very patiently redirecting that farmer to talk to someone else. HIs weakness as a candidate isn't related to his wonk-nerd knowledge but more from his extreme culture war views, which have no basis in fact or logic, which in turn undercuts his knowledge. He's a fundamentalist prig, and no one likes them.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ned_Flanders.png
"Let me tell you, there is no one who respects farmers more than I do, neighbor."

Get ready for this line to come up:

Huckabee also dismissed Trump's comments in a Monday morning interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." When asked about Trump refusing to distance himself from Duke on Sunday, Huckabee balked and instead brought up the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV).

"Look, I know it's an incredible overwhelming fascination — I've been watching this morning. But, look, let me ask you this, do you think Hillary Clinton is going to have to answer for her relationship with Sen. Robert Byrd who was an actual member of the KKK?" Huckabee asked.

one line is all it takes

The Robert Byrd analogy came up on CNN last night, brought up by one of Trump's higher-ups (as Alfred suggests, sounds like a coordinated response). I know everyone here hates David Gergen, but the way he called the woman on that--his visible disgust--was pretty compelling.

I saw the clip this morning. I'd never known Gergen was capable of contempt.

It must be interesting to go through life without being able to make meaningful distinctions between anything. This seems to be a common quality among Trump defenders.

"What about Robert Byrd?" has been the favorite tu quoque comeback from the GOP re: racism for at least a decade now.

Yeah, that and "southern democrats formed the KKK."

"party of lincoln"

lbj on the phone a week after dallas btw: "look, yer either the party of lincoln or you ain't!"

lol @ people itt last nite calling out cruz for tone policing

i love the KKK = Dems claim and the inference that NOTHING has happened in the intervening 150 years that might suggest a ideological evolution/ migration. yeah jackohole everyone in the KKK voted for Obama in '08 and '12

not so long of a timeline, maybe, when many of these people are still stuck on the founding fathers

and i used to think it was just profoundly stupid/ ignorant people on the internet who stood by this, but it looks like it's becoming a sanctioned talking point for the right.

another PA politician coming out for Trump was questioned about his refusal to denounce David Duke:

"Trump’s daughter, who converted to Judaism in 2009,” M@rin0 began. “I don’t think Trump has any feeling and concerns about the KKK, other than he doesn’t like them. He renounces them and given the fact that he supported his daughter in that move shows that.”

some of my best friends are

Retaliatory deep dipping for tenuous ties between Clinton and anyone with a racist past is just fucking sad. Don't pretend that this is in any way equivalent to Trump's "KK-what now? David who?" bullshit. I knew who David Duke was and what he was about when I was ten and pretty much only interested in Garfield and the WWF.