Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

Christie's shame is he knows Springsteen is watching and he let him down again

It was him or Carson...

― nickn, Wednesday, March 2, 2016

I mean, no way I can look at Rubio and see the sober, thoughtful, English-speaking nominee these people did.

Here's what the NYT wrote in their first encounter with Hitler in 1922, and it is very familiar:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jonostrower/status/705171149022433280/photo/1

agreed wrt Rubio. can't believe he's become the"sober" choice. he is a fucking goofball.

royaume des aveugles

chris christie has a li'l of this going on

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/caldwell.jpg

xpost well you go with what you have - the only way for this generation of Republicans to churn out a warm, well-spoken, cordial candidate is if they turned to exhumation

u.m.s.: I think Springsteen is a pretty forgiving dude. I predict he and Christie will hug it out when this is all over.

Springsteen understands regret, cf. all his songs I can think of rn

uh oh, looks like Rubio made dad mad:

Fox News’ top brass has given up hope on the presidential campaign of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), according to a Wednesday New York Magazine report.

The report cites three anonymous Fox sources who said network chairman Roger Ailes told people he's lost faith in Rubio’s ability to secure the Republican nomination after disappointing returns in early primaries and caucuses.

Rubio secured his first win in Minnesota on Super Tuesday, while top rivals Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Donald Trump so far have won four and 10 contests, respectively.

“We’re finished with Rubio,” Ailes allegedly told an unnamed Fox host, according to the report. "We can't do the Rubio thing anymore."

Lose Miley Cyrus, pick up Herman Cain--it's all good.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/herman-cain-republicans-who-dont-back-nominee-trump-are-absolutely-insane/

how long til fox turns pro-trump? just in a business sense i figure they'd follow the crowds/ratings

Christie's shame is he knows Springsteen is watching and he let him down again

Springsteen understands regret, cf. all his songs I can think of rn

fox news is going to go all in on trump, they know where (or how) their bread is buttered

it's not as if they haven't promoted equally authoritarian and batshit people over the last few decades

sorry if this has been linked already, thought it ws interesting:
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

Christie is an angry, sad and damaged man, I have always seen that and I really don't get why this particular endorsement makes people think he's "selling his soul."

Cant sell what you dont have!

He's actually done his share of trump-lite demagoguing and hate-spewing over the years too.

maybe what's surprised folks is that while they mostly understand that he's a swollen asshole, he's not exactly in the same realm as a Palin or LePage or even a Jan Brewer? like you would be surprised if those nitwits DIDN'T support Trump

xposts- Mordy thanks for that article, it ties so much together.

i think the key factor is that Christie got his best press for making a full-throated defense of Muslims' religious freedom a couple years ago.

Clinton's deathless thesis statement is even more trying by the way she says "AMERICA NEEDS TO BE MADE HO-ELLL"

sorry if this has been linked already, thought it ws interesting:
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

that was fantastic, thank you.

amazing that they predicted that people would be drawn to one of America's most famous celebrities. what will this niche group of political scientists unearth next?

"alternative energy"

the gist of the article is that there are more Trumps coming, presumably with better "people skills"

I've been thinking back to a discussion we had in the wake of Ferguson, in which we talked about the rise of "gear culture" (see Bass Pro Shops) and with it a certain re-scripting of American masculinity, a movement away from self-discipline, inner strength, courage, and coolness-under-pressure, and toward sheer ability to project power, and on the equipment with which one repels or destroys external threats. This culture also devalues rational thought and, in a certain sense, a realist epistemology. If you have enough gear, and you're scared (or pissed off) enough, rational inquiry is a hindrance. (The expansion of the Stand your Ground laws seem to me of a piece with all this. Fuck the duty to retreat. It's not just my home that's my castle: if I'm scared enough of you, and you so much as raise your hands, I have a right to shoot you).

In this way, Trump is the ultimate piece of gear, he's the monster truck of candidates: self-propelled, turbocharged, loud, shiny, and willing to wreak havoc left and right. The prospect of his Presidency, from this point of view, must feel irresistible.

(you really didn't read it, did you? none of the academic work save one late-2015 study has to do with DT specifically) xp

xp (and I do realize lots and lots of caveats have to be placed next to my characterization of the "older" values of American masculinity, but still I think there's more than a grain of truth here)

similar tweet to Perrin's (by someone you guys seem to hate less)

@jeremyscahill
Trump is the candidate of bigotry and fascism. Hillary is the candidate of Empire.

I'll take the imperialist, thank you very much

is he saying Hillary is rubbing elbows with Terence Howard

i'll take whoever is responsible for less deaths

You would vote for trump over hillary?

it is odd that Trump is an authoritarian yet Hillary is the one who voted with W on Iraq

i wouldn't vote for Trump tho fuck that guy he is the worst thing to ever happen to politics just by saying the shit he says

amazing that they predicted that people would be drawn to one of America's most famous celebrities. what will this niche group of political scientists unearth next?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, March 2, 2016 10:23 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i’ll be charitable and assume you didn’t actually read the article, because if you read the article and that is what you got out of it, you’re an idiot.

and yes i keep thinking that even if trump loses there are going to be more and more trumps (big or small) to contend with in ensuing decades. people are going to take lessons from his success.

it is odd that Trump is an authoritarian yet Hillary is the one who voted with W on Iraq

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, March 2, 2016 11:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

precisely, she voted /with/ W.

Yes, very odd. I can't even begin to think of any possible explanation why Trump didn't vote in favor of war with Iraq.

what am i supposed to get from that. they took heavily biased polls and a narrowly defined version of "authoritarian" and slapped them together. wow.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/12/Donald-Trump-in-Home-Alone-2-20th-Century-Fox-640x480.jpg

this has more to do with people voting for Trump

i know this sounds weird, but i feel like a substantial part of trump's mystique would vanish if someone just ripped that fucking toupée off of his head and left him scrambling for it.

xpost

so you just think that trump is some kind of once-in-a-lifetime leprechaun and his success says nothing about what many americans believe?

I'M AN INCREDIBLE LEPRECHAUN

Not cool

the gist of the article is that there are more Trumps coming, presumably with better "people skills"

It would be interesting to see whether isolationist, protectionist authoritarians could run successfully in the future without the race-baiting element.

In a weak field, idk whether Trump could still have won on a platform of middle-class rage / fear against the 'elite' and general disenchantment with the state of Republican politics by playing up the 'caudillo who's looking out for the average guy' element without aggressively targeting minorities.

Alpenkinderen für Trump!

Basically, Trump has to fail, and be seen to fail.

This is like last time, where the media got very excited about how close the contest was being, then Obama won by miles.

i know this sounds weird, but i feel like a substantial part of trump's mystique would vanish if someone just ripped that fucking toupée off of his head and left him scrambling for it.

that's his real hair! (or at least it's hair which is surgically affixed to his scalp)